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Topic: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS - page 74. (Read 121869 times)

legendary
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It's very difficult, if not impossible, to predict what difficulty and BTC value will be that far in advance.  If the predictions on this URL prove to be true, then you would never break even.  It is, however, a prediction, nothing more.  Could be true, could be false.

M

But that link does not account for the money we would get back for selling the rig after some time...
As I assume we will only keep the rig during 6 months or so.

So if we manage to break even or more, and then manage to sell, we are good I believe.

While true, it's still a gamble.

M
full member
Activity: 130
Merit: 100
It's very difficult, if not impossible, to predict what difficulty and BTC value will be that far in advance.  If the predictions on this URL prove to be true, then you would never break even.  It is, however, a prediction, nothing more.  Could be true, could be false.

M

But that link does not account for the money we would get back for selling the rig after some time...
As I assume we will only keep the rig during 6 months or so.

So if we manage to break even or more, and then manage to sell, we are good I believe.
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
ORDER: #828
1 Share
Trans: a78369374dc68898ef005d3156e4184dddd7bca585b72d973ef4a25983cb4b49
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Welcome aboard to new co-op members, and welcome back to our co-op vets!

==

Update: New pics from Black Arrow!

These are *not* Prosperos with Minion chips and these are *not* the co-op's rigs being tested. I'm just sharing with you pictures of their testing facility, as these same facilities will be used for the Prospero x-3 launch:

http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/71-20131123-215037/
member
Activity: 75
Merit: 10
R17
1 share = paid #821 November 24, 2013
transaction-id  7822ece7b23b70efc8aab722fbdd2494502d914e7a67e1c145a09298be078709
full member
Activity: 149
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Thomas, Thank you for your prompt reply.  I do have a follow up question that I have PM'd you about.
sr. member
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Hi, I have 10 shares in the R12 and like how the ops roll. Small request to anyone really: If I were to buy say 50 shares in this R17, how will the genesis block calculations look? Could someone give me a corrected calc please, as opposed to this.
It estimates a 130% monthly diff rise, mining start in 03/14, btc@900US$/coin, 5% expenses. The returns turn over to red.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/5fcbb20c59

What is the most prominent assumption of the mining landscape at that time?


Thanks

*edit, what calcs are the ops using? Someone like Good Guy Bob or Thomas, for instance.

it's looking at the crystal ball to know the - nearly - exact numbers in 2014-03

but the difficulty-rise of monthly 130 % is in my opinion 230 %
-> diff 2014-04/diff 2014-03
-> 38383/16761 = 2.29 (~230 %)
this monthly 230-%-diff-rise seems a bit too high for the estimates of diff - but who does it really know

so the profitable mining-future depends on the buyable capacity of asic-rigs, the rig-price in USD, the mining-diff and the BTC/USD-rate

the problem now is, we are at the end of 2013-11 - the asic-rigs are rare - BTC/USD-rate in near all-time-high

you have to take the investment-decision, do it or leave it

Hey thanks. Appreciated. Nice to get your own guesstimates confirmed once in a while, especially if you're considering a US$5k investment decision.
sr. member
Activity: 309
Merit: 250
Hi, I have 10 shares in the R12 and like how the ops roll. Small request to anyone really: If I were to buy say 50 shares in this R17, how will the genesis block calculations look? Could someone give me a corrected calc please, as opposed to this.
It estimates a 130% monthly diff rise, mining start in 03/14, btc@900US$/coin, 5% expenses. The returns turn over to red.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/5fcbb20c59

What is the most prominent assumption of the mining landscape at that time?


Thanks

*edit, what calcs are the ops using? Someone like Good Guy Bob or Thomas, for instance.

it's looking at the crystal ball to know the - nearly - exact numbers in 2014-03

but the difficulty-rise of monthly 130 % is in my opinion 230 %
-> diff 2014-04/diff 2014-03
-> 38383/16761 = 2.29 (~230 %)
this monthly 230-%-diff-rise seems a bit too high for the estimates of diff - but who does it really know

so the profitable mining-future depends on the buyable capacity of asic-rigs, the rig-price in USD, the mining-diff and the BTC/USD-rate

the problem now is, we are at the end of 2013-11 - the asic-rigs are rare - BTC/USD-rate in near all-time-high

you have to take the investment-decision, do it or leave it
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Hi, I have 10 shares in the R12 and like how the ops roll. Small request to anyone really: If I were to buy say 50 shares in this R17, how will the genesis block calculations look? Could someone give me a corrected calc please, as opposed to this.
It estimates a 130% monthly diff rise, mining start in 03/14, btc@900US$/coin, 5% expenses. The returns turn over to red.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/5fcbb20c59

What is the most prominent assumption of the mining landscape at that time?


Thanks

*edit, what calcs are the ops using? Someone like Good Guy Bob or Thomas, for instance.

Bump. If noone wants to answer I'd be very interested in knowing why.

It's very difficult, if not impossible, to predict what difficulty and BTC value will be that far in advance.  If the predictions on this URL prove to be true, then you would never break even.  It is, however, a prediction, nothing more.  Could be true, could be false.

M
sr. member
Activity: 283
Merit: 250
Hi, I have 10 shares in the R12 and like how the ops roll. Small request to anyone really: If I were to buy say 50 shares in this R17, how will the genesis block calculations look? Could someone give me a corrected calc please, as opposed to this.
It estimates a 130% monthly diff rise, mining start in 03/14, btc@900US$/coin, 5% expenses. The returns turn over to red.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/5fcbb20c59

What is the most prominent assumption of the mining landscape at that time?


Thanks

*edit, what calcs are the ops using? Someone like Good Guy Bob or Thomas, for instance.

Bump. If noone wants to answer I'd be very interested in knowing why.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
just a quick question, I added my payout address to the notes box when ordering.  Hope this is ok Smiley

Thanks

full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
R17
2 shares = paid #806 November 23, 2013
hash/transaction-id: d94cb700c511405c3acb84f9f50c5040b6459cc7da0d2a2da9011dff95ebaf4f

Looking forward to the email address to assign my payout address.  I originally made a mistake and had this post over on the R18/R18B thread.  I only realized after a few minutes that I actually bought R17 shares.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Round 17 can't sell out Wink
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Free World
are all shares sold out?
sr. member
Activity: 309
Merit: 250
5 shares - Order: #673
another 5 shares - paid Order: #791
trans-id aaed6f728d71536ddfa427e2e731ededa1c825eb48d64ede35c5febf95191689
thanks Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 283
Merit: 250
Hi, I have 10 shares in the R12 and like how the ops roll. Small request to anyone really: If I were to buy say 50 shares in this R17, how will the genesis block calculations look? Could someone give me a corrected calc please, as opposed to this.
It estimates a 130% monthly diff rise, mining start in 03/14, btc@900US$/coin, 5% expenses. The returns turn over to red.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/5fcbb20c59

What is the most prominent assumption of the mining landscape at that time?


Thanks

*edit, what calcs are the ops using? Someone like Good Guy Bob or Thomas, for instance.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Hi!!

I buy 1 more share. 5 Overall.

transaction : 5a87199f0e35bfe122378c38c4ec92f9712d60f830aec110dff20e982be434ad

order number: 790
full member
Activity: 314
Merit: 100
Order 788 paid 7c801ef69e02468f9bee60fb35fe4928c3059ade81038d0d4b99380c8db1e600
full member
Activity: 130
Merit: 100
Transaction ID: a10a3814861d8d89246759668f1d0cb33ffcebcf5e8b14b703e2851dc81f14d3
2 shares
Order #787
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Order #786  14d9759e652a849f04f2e8d59e74eacc067f5d469690fbba7fe728fc50b6c86a-000

Thanks.
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