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suchmoon

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Quote from: clownius on August 05, 2015, 05:06:32 AM

Quote from: tmltd on August 05, 2015, 04:57:27 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on April 26, 2015, 02:19:13 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 26, 2015, 03:27:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 25, 2015, 08:23:24 AM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 25, 2015, 08:04:54 AM

what about this one?

https://hashflare.io/

From Estonia, Tallinn ... like cointellect

According to their site, HashCoins is their first service. HashCoins is ASIC manufacturer but they are liars. HashCoins Bitcointalk account isn't online since March. They may have a small ASICs setup for mining but this is obvious ponzi. They didn't even provide an image. Don't invest there.

See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9823103.

Thanks for the info.
Anyway, being from the very same place as cointellect doesn't help.
Wink

No photos, no mining address, no money. Easy.

They have photos in their site here https://hashflare.io/data-center/ go to TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS and expand PICTURES. Also they have photos in instagram https://instagram.com/hashcoins/. HashFlare belongs to HashCoins. The address of HashCoins is here https://www.hashcoins.com/company/contact/.

I see three of what could be miners. As photos go thats not even close to proof.

Someone mentioned miners?

Let me present you what has become the gold standard of mining picture proof... picture mining proof... picture-proof mining... smth like that.

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Edited 2020-11-28 to fix a broken image

... and that one turned out to be as fake as it gets. So pictures == useless.

clownius

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Quote from: tmltd on August 05, 2015, 04:57:27 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on April 26, 2015, 02:19:13 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 26, 2015, 03:27:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 25, 2015, 08:23:24 AM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 25, 2015, 08:04:54 AM

what about this one?

https://hashflare.io/

From Estonia, Tallinn ... like cointellect

According to their site, HashCoins is their first service. HashCoins is ASIC manufacturer but they are liars. HashCoins Bitcointalk account isn't online since March. They may have a small ASICs setup for mining but this is obvious ponzi. They didn't even provide an image. Don't invest there.

See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9823103.

Thanks for the info.
Anyway, being from the very same place as cointellect doesn't help.
Wink

No photos, no mining address, no money. Easy.

They have photos in their site here https://hashflare.io/data-center/ go to TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS and expand PICTURES. Also they have photos in instagram https://instagram.com/hashcoins/. HashFlare belongs to HashCoins. The address of HashCoins is here https://www.hashcoins.com/company/contact/.

I see three of what could be miners. As photos go thats not even close to proof.

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Quote from: crazyivan on April 26, 2015, 02:19:13 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 26, 2015, 03:27:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 25, 2015, 08:23:24 AM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 25, 2015, 08:04:54 AM

what about this one?

https://hashflare.io/

From Estonia, Tallinn ... like cointellect

According to their site, HashCoins is their first service. HashCoins is ASIC manufacturer but they are liars. HashCoins Bitcointalk account isn't online since March. They may have a small ASICs setup for mining but this is obvious ponzi. They didn't even provide an image. Don't invest there.

See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9823103.

Thanks for the info.
Anyway, being from the very same place as cointellect doesn't help.
Wink

No photos, no mining address, no money. Easy.

They have photos in their site here https://hashflare.io/data-center/ go to TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS and expand PICTURES. Also they have photos in instagram https://instagram.com/hashcoins/. HashFlare belongs to HashCoins. The address of HashCoins is here https://www.hashcoins.com/company/contact/.

ThePhwner

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Quote from: yeponlyone on August 03, 2015, 05:37:04 PM

So I'm stupid enough to cloudmining... I have investments in Hashnest (most) and Bit-X; also a tiny bit in zeushash (which I bought without knowing better but seems to be ROI any day now.

I feel comfortable with Hash and Bit, but perhaps not putting in even more money. Diversify, might be good Wink

What site do you guys recommend for my new investment? No ponzi and not only life-time contracts.

Thanks!

Check out the B-MINE/B-SELL fund on Havelock. Shares are based on 100 Gh/s of mining and adjust with difficulty changes. You can buy/sell through an orderbook too. The first round completed earlier this year and was a good investment; 2nd round is in process now.

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Quote from: ColderThanIce on August 02, 2015, 08:22:10 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on August 02, 2015, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on August 02, 2015, 07:39:09 PM

https://www.btcminer.co
i guess that is most likely legit, they mentioned that they will plug their mining to your pools, but i am thinking about the fees problems: they said no electric fees are required.

They're charging a monthly fee, so apparently the electric costs are included. But I still wouldn't touch them, the pricing doesn't make sense and the risk is still the same as with any cloud mining.

It does look a little sketchy but it's an interesting approach to cloud mining if it's indeed legit. Nice to see a place that allows users to point their hashpower to whatever pool they want to. At least then you know there's actual hardware mining for you, but obviously that could stop at any time if they decide to shut down, and run off with their hardware and user's funds.

I also took a look at their contact page - it's interesting that the business is run out of Australia because power costs are quite high there (it looks like on average power costs about $0.29 / kWhr) and the address they have posted on their website is a residential address, not a storefront or anything like that. Seems a little odd that they're based out of a country with high power prices rather than one with cheaper power costs.

It seems suspect to me. What if you pick a shit pool and the mining doesn't cover the fees? Why would an operator want to assume that risk?

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So I'm stupid enough to cloudmining... I have investments in Hashnest (most) and Bit-X; also a tiny bit in zeushash (which I bought without knowing better but seems to be ROI any day now.

I feel comfortable with Hash and Bit, but perhaps not putting in even more money. Diversify, might be good Wink

What site do you guys recommend for my new investment? No ponzi and not only life-time contracts.

Thanks!

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 02, 2015, 08:34:55 PM

If they're legit they're probably running the actual miners somewhere else. Which introduces yet another third party risk vector.

That's very possible, but it doesn't mention anywhere on their site that their miners are run outside of Australia. It sounds like the whole operation is based in Australia. We'll have to wait awhile to see if any news comes out of this operation, because I definitely have a couple questions about it.

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: ColderThanIce on August 02, 2015, 08:22:10 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on August 02, 2015, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on August 02, 2015, 07:39:09 PM

https://www.btcminer.co
i guess that is most likely legit, they mentioned that they will plug their mining to your pools, but i am thinking about the fees problems: they said no electric fees are required.

They're charging a monthly fee, so apparently the electric costs are included. But I still wouldn't touch them, the pricing doesn't make sense and the risk is still the same as with any cloud mining.

It does look a little sketchy but it's an interesting approach to cloud mining if it's indeed legit. Nice to see a place that allows users to point their hashpower to whatever pool they want to. At least then you know there's actual hardware mining for you, but obviously that could stop at any time if they decide to shut down, and run off with their hardware and user's funds.

I also took a look at their contact page - it's interesting that the business is run out of Australia because power costs are quite high there (it looks like on average power costs about $0.29 / kWhr) and the address they have posted on their website is a residential address, not a storefront or anything like that. Seems a little odd that they're based out of a country with high power prices rather than one with cheaper power costs.

If they're legit they're probably running the actual miners somewhere else. Which introduces yet another third party risk vector.

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 02, 2015, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: lottery248 on August 02, 2015, 07:39:09 PM

https://www.btcminer.co
i guess that is most likely legit, they mentioned that they will plug their mining to your pools, but i am thinking about the fees problems: they said no electric fees are required.

They're charging a monthly fee, so apparently the electric costs are included. But I still wouldn't touch them, the pricing doesn't make sense and the risk is still the same as with any cloud mining.

It does look a little sketchy but it's an interesting approach to cloud mining if it's indeed legit. Nice to see a place that allows users to point their hashpower to whatever pool they want to. At least then you know there's actual hardware mining for you, but obviously that could stop at any time if they decide to shut down, and run off with their hardware and user's funds.

I also took a look at their contact page - it's interesting that the business is run out of Australia because power costs are quite high there (it looks like on average power costs about $0.29 / kWhr) and the address they have posted on their website is a residential address, not a storefront or anything like that. Seems a little odd that they're based out of a country with high power prices rather than one with cheaper power costs.

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: lottery248 on August 02, 2015, 07:39:09 PM

https://www.btcminer.co
i guess that is most likely legit, they mentioned that they will plug their mining to your pools, but i am thinking about the fees problems: they said no electric fees are required.

They're charging a monthly fee, so apparently the electric costs are included. But I still wouldn't touch them, the pricing doesn't make sense and the risk is still the same as with any cloud mining.

lottery248

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beware of your keys.

https://www.btcminer.co
i guess that is most likely legit, they mentioned that they will plug their mining to your pools, but i am thinking about the fees problems: they said no electric fees are required.

suchmoon

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Quote from: Sine(X) on August 02, 2015, 07:28:07 PM

Is http://www.bitstellar.com/ an official Sfards cloud mining service?

It doesn't look like it's "cloud mining" (in the context of this thread). It's a remote control interface for your mining hardware, which they confusingly decided to call "cloud mining".

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Is http://www.bitstellar.com/ an official Sfards cloud mining service?

ThePhwner

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Quote from: GermanGiant on July 30, 2015, 09:59:23 AM

Quote from: ThePhwner on July 30, 2015, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: XPY on July 14, 2015, 11:54:24 AM

I am the owner of https://paycoin.asia.

what you guys think about https://paycoin.asia ?

I do not promise high profit. On my site you can see proof of money spent to buy mining- or staking power.

No hidden identity.

In case i miss something or you have doubt in my service. What would you advice me to add on my site https://paycoin.asia to give you as customer more confident in my service?

Let me know, [email protected]

Regards,

Paycoin.asia

Is this some sort of joke? I mean I had to force myself to look beyond "Paycoin" but then seeing that PaycoinAsia is based in the Netherlands... I mean is this a joke?

They are planning to include Netherlands to Asia.

I guess if you're still into PayCoin that probably makes sense to you. Enjoy.

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Quote from: owlcatz on August 01, 2015, 08:25:34 PM

So I just came across this site that ripped me off for about 15 USD in paypal over a year ago. Not sure why i never did a chargeback, I must have forgot about it once I quit using paypal to be honest.

http://www.hashasaurus.com/shop/miningcontracts.php

Anyhow, I would obviously steer clear, not sure if anyone else has any info about them, but I didn't find anything on here about them except for some stuff over in the altcoin/s*itcoin sections. Tongue

I LOLed at those prices. If anyone's actually paying them, kudos to the guy running the site.

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So I just came across this site that ripped me off for about 15 USD in paypal over a year ago. Not sure why i never did a chargeback, I must have forgot about it once I quit using paypal to be honest.

http://www.hashasaurus.com/shop/miningcontracts.php

Anyhow, I would obviously steer clear, not sure if anyone else has any info about them, but I didn't find anything on here about them except for some stuff over in the altcoin/s*itcoin sections. Tongue

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Quote from: GermanGiant on July 30, 2015, 09:59:23 AM

Quote from: ThePhwner on July 30, 2015, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: XPY on July 14, 2015, 11:54:24 AM

I am the owner of https://paycoin.asia.

what you guys think about https://paycoin.asia ?

I do not promise high profit. On my site you can see proof of money spent to buy mining- or staking power.

No hidden identity.

In case i miss something or you have doubt in my service. What would you advice me to add on my site https://paycoin.asia to give you as customer more confident in my service?

Let me know, [email protected]

Regards,

Paycoin.asia

Is this some sort of joke? I mean I had to force myself to look beyond "Paycoin" but then seeing that PaycoinAsia is based in the Netherlands... I mean is this a joke?

They are planning to include Netherlands to Asia.

those scammers are getting more and more ridiculous today

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^^^ What does that even mean?

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Quote from: ThePhwner on July 30, 2015, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: XPY on July 14, 2015, 11:54:24 AM

I am the owner of https://paycoin.asia.

what you guys think about https://paycoin.asia ?

I do not promise high profit. On my site you can see proof of money spent to buy mining- or staking power.

No hidden identity.

In case i miss something or you have doubt in my service. What would you advice me to add on my site https://paycoin.asia to give you as customer more confident in my service?

Let me know, [email protected]

Regards,

Paycoin.asia

Is this some sort of joke? I mean I had to force myself to look beyond "Paycoin" but then seeing that PaycoinAsia is based in the Netherlands... I mean is this a joke?

They are planning to include Netherlands to Asia.

ThePhwner

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Quote from: XPY on July 14, 2015, 11:54:24 AM

I am the owner of https://paycoin.asia.

what you guys think about https://paycoin.asia ?

I do not promise high profit. On my site you can see proof of money spent to buy mining- or staking power.

No hidden identity.

In case i miss something or you have doubt in my service. What would you advice me to add on my site https://paycoin.asia to give you as customer more confident in my service?

Let me know, [email protected]

Regards,

Paycoin.asia

Is this some sort of joke? I mean I had to force myself to look beyond "Paycoin" but then seeing that PaycoinAsia is based in the Netherlands... I mean is this a joke?

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