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September 19, 2023, 11:06:19 AM
but whether we like it or not, this has been happening for many years , even before our ancestors so lets accept that fact.
Yes... indeed cockfighting activities have been around for many years. However, these activities and culture are no longer suitable to be displayed and preserved, because they have a negative impact.

But here in our country, that's not happening in the provinces. Nowadays,  there is cockfighting online that can be downloaded to our mobile phones via the Play Store, and there are many options, but not in all places here. Cockfighting is not legal in our country because it depends on the covering locale.

It is true that "cockfighting" only exists in a few places in this part of the world, because several regions and countries strongly oppose cockfighting activities carried out by some people through policies issued by the government. And to overcome illegal cockfighting, we only need stricter law enforcement, because law enforcement in several countries and regions can still be lobbied again and there are also many law enforcement officers who protect cockfighting activities.
On few occasions I have been privileged to witness this cockfight,  since this discussion began a few weeks ago,  but then at some point it still ball down to the fact that cockfighting only exist in some premitive location around the world,  some are in villages that have some level of f traditional settings that allow for some local games,  in the northern part in my country there use to have arranged cock games and this normally happens during some form of religion events that happened at seasonal period.
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September 19, 2023, 11:00:54 AM

Totally impossible that there's no one would gonna die after the fight because this cockfighting would really be a fight to death on which if the said cock wont really be able to fight then this is the time

that it would really be declared. Pretty much aware that if ever you do losses then that cock of yours would be given into the winner which it is really that an additional prize or this had been the common set up with this kind of gambling which as a loser then you wont really be taking any home even on your dead chcken. As a long time cockfighting gambler then you are already
getting used to it or been totally aware on what are the rules and this is where you should need to agree with.

We know that there are places who would really be minding about animal cruelty but there are places which doesnt really care and they would really be just following
on what their traditional way of gambling specially cockfighting and for me then it is really just that right and not really that much harsh for me.  Cheesy

Ah okay, and it's true if you understand this game or this type of gambling you are well-aware of your fate and your cock's fate after the fight, if you win then you will celebrate if you lose then you need to move forward and raise another fighter for a possible bounce back, set up where cockfighting is being play it's been a tradition and still being practice from small towns where people are really supporting this kind of gambling and enjoying whatever the outcome.

Though there are also arenas which you can find with big cities that being setup by well-known personalities, which really adding the interest of more gamblers who love betting on this kind of gambling.

When betting on roosters, the bad thing is that one of the two dies, as I say, I am not capable of having an animal and forcing it to fight with another until the death, if the other dies I cry, if mine dies I cry more, I am not as detached from animals as some people are, because I look at an animal with the intention of protecting it, and although those animals can become our food, I don't see that they have to be used in that way so that they suffer because they will be animals and everything. , but by subjecting them to these fights they suffer, and people have no shame in doing so, looking for others and others to continue fighting and suffering is the problem, but some give them the drop so that they become more angry, which makes them already seem sick.
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September 19, 2023, 09:32:49 AM

Totally impossible that there's no one would gonna die after the fight because this cockfighting would really be a fight to death on which if the said cock wont really be able to fight then this is the time

that it would really be declared. Pretty much aware that if ever you do losses then that cock of yours would be given into the winner which it is really that an additional prize or this had been the common set up with this kind of gambling which as a loser then you wont really be taking any home even on your dead chcken. As a long time cockfighting gambler then you are already
getting used to it or been totally aware on what are the rules and this is where you should need to agree with.

We know that there are places who would really be minding about animal cruelty but there are places which doesnt really care and they would really be just following
on what their traditional way of gambling specially cockfighting and for me then it is really just that right and not really that much harsh for me.  Cheesy
Though there are also arenas which you can find with big cities that being setup by well-known personalities, which really adding the interest of more gamblers who love betting on this kind of gambling.
We always bet on some common games but when we see a different game many of us get excited. This game of cock fighting is usually organized in remote areas. Which can be seen as a reflection of ancient tradition and people are more interested in such games. Some people think that the way people can be influenced in other games that is not possible in cock fighting games. Because of some of its features, the interest and excitement towards this game is high among gamblers and common people.
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September 19, 2023, 05:34:21 AM

Totally impossible that there's no one would gonna die after the fight because this cockfighting would really be a fight to death on which if the said cock wont really be able to fight then this is the time

that it would really be declared. Pretty much aware that if ever you do losses then that cock of yours would be given into the winner which it is really that an additional prize or this had been the common set up with this kind of gambling which as a loser then you wont really be taking any home even on your dead chcken. As a long time cockfighting gambler then you are already
getting used to it or been totally aware on what are the rules and this is where you should need to agree with.

We know that there are places who would really be minding about animal cruelty but there are places which doesnt really care and they would really be just following
on what their traditional way of gambling specially cockfighting and for me then it is really just that right and not really that much harsh for me.  Cheesy

Ah okay, and it's true if you understand this game or this type of gambling you are well-aware of your fate and your cock's fate after the fight, if you win then you will celebrate if you lose then you need to move forward and raise another fighter for a possible bounce back, set up where cockfighting is being play it's been a tradition and still being practice from small towns where people are really supporting this kind of gambling and enjoying whatever the outcome.

Though there are also arenas which you can find with big cities that being setup by well-known personalities, which really adding the interest of more gamblers who love betting on this kind of gambling.
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September 17, 2023, 03:00:00 PM

       -  I kind of support what you mentioned, mate; those roosters that are used in cockfighting are considered animal athletes. The investor will buy a rooster with a good breed and a high class, then, like the animal breed, spend expensive food and vitamins for a few months until it grows handsome and is in good condition.

And when the right time comes for them to fight it, the rooster is really in good condition, and of course, the one who bought and took care of it will be the one who bets big on the final event. But as you said, it is still not guaranteed that the rooster will win 100%, even if we say that he has conditioned it well in a few months of taking care of the rooster.
They're being treated like "animal athletes" and getting lots of attention, but let's not forget that they're being trained for a fight, not a holiday. Really, have you ever thought about the psychological side? Mate, it's gambling. Putting money at something doesn't mean it will work out. You might as well put that money in a slot machine. At least two animals won't be attacking each other.  Tongue Tongue
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September 17, 2023, 02:42:04 PM
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More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Also, I may be wrong but there are rules which in theory allow the cock to finish the fight and still being alive.
If the animal runs away the arena instead fighting his opponent, then it will be considered to be a default defeat, also of the owner of the animal interrupts the fight in order to save the life of the animal, then it would be also considered to be a defeat.

Though, keeping in mind that owners of those animals are very aware of the fight-or-die nature of these events, it would be very rare if some of them interfered to save their animal. The only reason which comes to mind would be if the cock is valuable enough to get a second chance or breedig him.


I'm not also sure with that setup, from what I understand losing cock will also included to the winning prize of the winning cock, the owner of the winning side will take the cock dead or alive, I'm not sure if the losing owner still have that chance to save the life of his precious fighter as the nature of this gambling is to go all in, I mean both money and the fighting cock are at risk once they already inside the arena.

Fight-or-die and nothing else, something that the owner who raises the fighting cock already accepted before they bring the fighter inside, together with their hope and money. It's everything after it has been setup.
Totally impossible that there's no one would gonna die after the fight because this cockfighting would really be a fight to death on which if the said cock wont really be able to fight then this is the time

that it would really be declared. Pretty much aware that if ever you do losses then that cock of yours would be given into the winner which it is really that an additional prize or this had been the common set up with this kind of gambling which as a loser then you wont really be taking any home even on your dead chcken. As a long time cockfighting gambler then you are already
getting used to it or been totally aware on what are the rules and this is where you should need to agree with.

We know that there are places who would really be minding about animal cruelty but there are places which doesnt really care and they would really be just following
on what their traditional way of gambling specially cockfighting and for me then it is really just that right and not really that much harsh for me.  Cheesy
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September 17, 2023, 02:26:12 PM
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More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Also, I may be wrong but there are rules which in theory allow the cock to finish the fight and still being alive.
If the animal runs away the arena instead fighting his opponent, then it will be considered to be a default defeat, also of the owner of the animal interrupts the fight in order to save the life of the animal, then it would be also considered to be a defeat.

Though, keeping in mind that owners of those animals are very aware of the fight-or-die nature of these events, it would be very rare if some of them interfered to save their animal. The only reason which comes to mind would be if the cock is valuable enough to get a second chance or breedig him.


I'm not also sure with that setup, from what I understand losing cock will also included to the winning prize of the winning cock, the owner of the winning side will take the cock dead or alive, I'm not sure if the losing owner still have that chance to save the life of his precious fighter as the nature of this gambling is to go all in, I mean both money and the fighting cock are at risk once they already inside the arena.

Fight-or-die and nothing else, something that the owner who raises the fighting cock already accepted before they bring the fighter inside, together with their hope and money. It's everything after it has been setup.

It must be different here in my country then, because (as I said some weeks ago in this very thread) one of my uncles was quite into cockfighting and he brutally sacrificed a rooster in front of us because (allegedly) that animal had failed him during a fight. I think what happened is that the rooster fled the arena instead fighting, so my uncle took him back home to personally kill him.

Though, I would like to ask you: what the winner (in the case of your country) would do with the carcass of a rooster? Is the winner supposed to cook and eat the defeated cock?

It would be something I had never read about.
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September 17, 2023, 02:18:33 AM
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More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Also, I may be wrong but there are rules which in theory allow the cock to finish the fight and still being alive.
If the animal runs away the arena instead fighting his opponent, then it will be considered to be a default defeat, also of the owner of the animal interrupts the fight in order to save the life of the animal, then it would be also considered to be a defeat.

Though, keeping in mind that owners of those animals are very aware of the fight-or-die nature of these events, it would be very rare if some of them interfered to save their animal. The only reason which comes to mind would be if the cock is valuable enough to get a second chance or breedig him.


I'm not also sure with that setup, from what I understand losing cock will also included to the winning prize of the winning cock, the owner of the winning side will take the cock dead or alive, I'm not sure if the losing owner still have that chance to save the life of his precious fighter as the nature of this gambling is to go all in, I mean both money and the fighting cock are at risk once they already inside the arena.

Fight-or-die and nothing else, something that the owner who raises the fighting cock already accepted before they bring the fighter inside, together with their hope and money. It's everything after it has been setup.
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September 17, 2023, 02:01:21 AM
that you already save a decent amount of money though not only the money is at risk but also your roster who you spend a lot of time and money to prepare for the big event that may bring you luck or the other side of the outcome.
Yes, putting the cock in good shape before the battle saves you the risk of losing your fighting cock, and ultimately losing the bet also, I hard these games are staked with a high amount, the amount that is worth higher than the value of the cock in multiple times, this has also been the major reasons why those cock owners take a long period to train and equipped their cocks before the big events.
More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Cockfighting enthusiasts often view their roosters as prized athletes, and the outcome of a match can be both financially and emotionally significant. As with any form of betting or competition, it's crucial to approach cockfighting responsibly, recognizing that success is not guaranteed, and there are inherent risks involved. It's truly like conditioning a boxer to a ring. But this time with a cock to fight.

       -  I kind of support what you mentioned, mate; those roosters that are used in cockfighting are considered animal athletes. The investor will buy a rooster with a good breed and a high class, then, like the animal breed, spend expensive food and vitamins for a few months until it grows handsome and is in good condition.

And when the right time comes for them to fight it, the rooster is really in good condition, and of course, the one who bought and took care of it will be the one who bets big on the final event. But as you said, it is still not guaranteed that the rooster will win 100%, even if we say that he has conditioned it well in a few months of taking care of the rooster.
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September 16, 2023, 06:29:07 PM
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More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Also, I may be wrong but there are rules which in theory allow the cock to finish the fight and still being alive.
If the animal runs away the arena instead fighting his opponent, then it will be considered to be a default defeat, also of the owner of the animal interrupts the fight in order to save the life of the animal, then it would be also considered to be a defeat.

Though, keeping in mind that owners of those animals are very aware of the fight-or-die nature of these events, it would be very rare if some of them interfered to save their animal. The only reason which comes to mind would be if the cock is valuable enough to get a second chance or breedig him.
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September 16, 2023, 05:10:15 PM
that you already save a decent amount of money though not only the money is at risk but also your roster who you spend a lot of time and money to prepare for the big event that may bring you luck or the other side of the outcome.
Yes, putting the cock in good shape before the battle saves you the risk of losing your fighting cock, and ultimately losing the bet also, I hard these games are staked with a high amount, the amount that is worth higher than the value of the cock in multiple times, this has also been the major reasons why those cock owners take a long period to train and equipped their cocks before the big events.
More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Cockfighting enthusiasts often view their roosters as prized athletes, and the outcome of a match can be both financially and emotionally significant. As with any form of betting or competition, it's crucial to approach cockfighting responsibly, recognizing that success is not guaranteed, and there are inherent risks involved. It's truly like conditioning a boxer to a ring. But this time with a cock to fight.
Agreed, the roosters were given importance same as the boxers. In most of the countries this is much played on the village side. In those regions these events were much connected with the tradition, which makes cockfight emotionally connected one than just a sport or an event. Every form of gambling have got risks associated with it. With cockfight the risk is high, that the people spend money from their daily bread.
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September 16, 2023, 03:45:05 PM
that you already save a decent amount of money though not only the money is at risk but also your roster who you spend a lot of time and money to prepare for the big event that may bring you luck or the other side of the outcome.
Yes, putting the cock in good shape before the battle saves you the risk of losing your fighting cock, and ultimately losing the bet also, I hard these games are staked with a high amount, the amount that is worth higher than the value of the cock in multiple times, this has also been the major reasons why those cock owners take a long period to train and equipped their cocks before the big events.
More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.

Cockfighting enthusiasts often view their roosters as prized athletes, and the outcome of a match can be both financially and emotionally significant. As with any form of betting or competition, it's crucial to approach cockfighting responsibly, recognizing that success is not guaranteed, and there are inherent risks involved. It's truly like conditioning a boxer to a ring. But this time with a cock to fight.
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September 16, 2023, 02:51:00 PM
that you already save a decent amount of money though not only the money is at risk but also your roster who you spend a lot of time and money to prepare for the big event that may bring you luck or the other side of the outcome.
Yes, putting the cock in good shape before the battle saves you the risk of losing your fighting cock, and ultimately losing the bet also, I hard these games are staked with a high amount, the amount that is worth higher than the value of the cock in multiple times, this has also been the major reasons why those cock owners take a long period to train and equipped their cocks before the big events.
More also losing means your animal is gone, because in most cases, not all the cocks survive the battle and come out alive.
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September 16, 2023, 01:09:45 PM
If you are a cockfighting lover and have had a lot of experience in cockfighting and the characteristics of superior cocks, you can easily find out the fighting quality of the cock itself if you pay attention to the cock physical appearance and the way it stands.
There are many characteristics of chickens that have advantages above average and can guarantee victory when fighting and I have heard from several cockfighting lovers that there are special characteristics when they want to win or bet money in a cockfighting match.

In crypto casinos I have never seen any cockfighting bets but in fiat online casinos there are lots of cockfighting bettors from several countries mentioned by the OP even the matches are national matches.
Maybe if there is a crypto casino that adds a cockfighting betting option it could provide special interest and surely many gamblers will be curious to try betting.

I have an experience on cockfighting because I was playing myself with my uncle during my childhood days. Cockfighters only have the advantage on the conditioning since most of them use same cock line-age which means the genes is almost of the same.

The performance of the cock is highly dependent on how you train it and what is the conditioning type you’ve done such as vitamins and diet just to have a perfect muscle for agility. We are using some vitamins to increase thickens the blood of the cock so that it will not suffer blood loss quickly when hit. Those form and body is just a physical appearance which often not an advantage in real battle.

My uncle has a long win streak on coliseum near us due to his special conditioning which he supposed to teach but I lost interest since I focus on study due to my parents strict supervision and warning.

Yes you are right that mate and that's the other thing we base If we care about our roster and also in conditioning and training of cocks then there's a sparring and jogging in order to see if our cock is ready to fight or not. But some area in the world especially in my place they cockfighters believe on senials like the color of the roster which is they will see that they have a big chance of winning once the day is the lucky day of thier cock .

It's part of the process before you will bring your roster in the arena, you need to have those sparring and see the condition if your fighting cock is already good to go, you need also to make sure that you already save a decent amount of money though not only the money is at risk but also your roster who you spend a lot of time and money to prepare for the big event that may bring you luck or the other side of the outcome.
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September 16, 2023, 12:12:30 PM
If you are a cockfighting lover and have had a lot of experience in cockfighting and the characteristics of superior cocks, you can easily find out the fighting quality of the cock itself if you pay attention to the cock physical appearance and the way it stands.
There are many characteristics of chickens that have advantages above average and can guarantee victory when fighting and I have heard from several cockfighting lovers that there are special characteristics when they want to win or bet money in a cockfighting match.

In crypto casinos I have never seen any cockfighting bets but in fiat online casinos there are lots of cockfighting bettors from several countries mentioned by the OP even the matches are national matches.
Maybe if there is a crypto casino that adds a cockfighting betting option it could provide special interest and surely many gamblers will be curious to try betting.

I have an experience on cockfighting because I was playing myself with my uncle during my childhood days. Cockfighters only have the advantage on the conditioning since most of them use same cock line-age which means the genes is almost of the same.

The performance of the cock is highly dependent on how you train it and what is the conditioning type you’ve done such as vitamins and diet just to have a perfect muscle for agility. We are using some vitamins to increase thickens the blood of the cock so that it will not suffer blood loss quickly when hit. Those form and body is just a physical appearance which often not an advantage in real battle.

My uncle has a long win streak on coliseum near us due to his special conditioning which he supposed to teach but I lost interest since I focus on study due to my parents strict supervision and warning.

Yes you are right that mate and that's the other thing we base If we care about our roster and also in conditioning and training of cocks then there's a sparring and jogging in order to see if our cock is ready to fight or not. But some area in the world especially in my place they cockfighters believe on senials like the color of the roster which is they will see that they have a big chance of winning once the day is the lucky day of thier cock .
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September 16, 2023, 09:01:33 AM
If you are a cockfighting lover and have had a lot of experience in cockfighting and the characteristics of superior cocks, you can easily find out the fighting quality of the cock itself if you pay attention to the cock physical appearance and the way it stands.
There are many characteristics of chickens that have advantages above average and can guarantee victory when fighting and I have heard from several cockfighting lovers that there are special characteristics when they want to win or bet money in a cockfighting match.

In crypto casinos I have never seen any cockfighting bets but in fiat online casinos there are lots of cockfighting bettors from several countries mentioned by the OP even the matches are national matches.
Maybe if there is a crypto casino that adds a cockfighting betting option it could provide special interest and surely many gamblers will be curious to try betting.

I have an experience on cockfighting because I was playing myself with my uncle during my childhood days. Cockfighters only have the advantage on the conditioning since most of them use same cock line-age which means the genes is almost of the same.

The performance of the cock is highly dependent on how you train it and what is the conditioning type you’ve done such as vitamins and diet just to have a perfect muscle for agility. We are using some vitamins to increase thickens the blood of the cock so that it will not suffer blood loss quickly when hit. Those form and body is just a physical appearance which often not an advantage in real battle.

My uncle has a long win streak on coliseum near us due to his special conditioning which he supposed to teach but I lost interest since I focus on study due to my parents strict supervision and warning.
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September 16, 2023, 08:59:15 AM
but whether we like it or not, this has been happening for many years , even before our ancestors so lets accept that fact.
Yes... indeed cockfighting activities have been around for many years. However, these activities and culture are no longer suitable to be displayed and preserved, because they have a negative impact.

But here in our country, that's not happening in the provinces. Nowadays,  there is cockfighting online that can be downloaded to our mobile phones via the Play Store, and there are many options, but not in all places here. Cockfighting is not legal in our country because it depends on the covering locale.

It is true that "cockfighting" only exists in a few places in this part of the world, because several regions and countries strongly oppose cockfighting activities carried out by some people through policies issued by the government. And to overcome illegal cockfighting, we only need stricter law enforcement, because law enforcement in several countries and regions can still be lobbied again and there are also many law enforcement officers who protect cockfighting activities.
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September 16, 2023, 08:55:17 AM
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Same with how you see it, codes can cheated though casino or programmers can provide fair system but that doubt from the gambler who usually bet with cockfighting, they are convinced that by looking from the roster they can assess if they have that edge and aside from luck which really the big factor in winning your bet, they also believing in some principles that only them who can explain, things like supernatural believe and so on.. Always present with gamblers who use cockfighting as venue of entertainment plus possible in making good and decent amount of money if they luckily predict or bring the best roster that they've got.
Accessing the ability of of the cock to give a winning fight by just physical look of the animal may also be deceiving because most time,  looks can failed you,  you may see a healthy looking fighter cock on the roster but choosing it to fight may give you a disappointing results so at that one also need to have pre determined and pre informed information and previous performances of those animals on the lineup to fight with.

Although,  I haven't seen such animal being listed on the casino before,  and I don't intend to go for that either,  btwn,  once in a while this kind of discussion is very important to give us some knowledge on what is at stake with cock fighting or any other animal fights.
If you are a cockfighting lover and have had a lot of experience in cockfighting and the characteristics of superior cocks, you can easily find out the fighting quality of the cock itself if you pay attention to the cock physical appearance and the way it stands.
There are many characteristics of chickens that have advantages above average and can guarantee victory when fighting and I have heard from several cockfighting lovers that there are special characteristics when they want to win or bet money in a cockfighting match.

In crypto casinos I have never seen any cockfighting bets but in fiat online casinos there are lots of cockfighting bettors from several countries mentioned by the OP even the matches are national matches.
Maybe if there is a crypto casino that adds a cockfighting betting option it could provide special interest and surely many gamblers will be curious to try betting.
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September 16, 2023, 05:07:35 AM
Wht this basically mean was that gambling sabong or cockfighting online and offline is very different especailly if in online, the fight is generated by a bot or AI fighting cocks or chiecken. Because in real-time or traditional sabong, you can really specify each cock to which you are going to bet. Are you going to bet on which is healthier, look bigger, look faster? But in online, you just really based it on luck or on the record of any side. Are you going to bet on Pula or sa Puti? or Tabla (Tie). Yes such game cause violence but isn't it just same as boxing? Roll Eyes
If you compare it to boxing it is clearly different even though both are "fights." In boxing it is clear that it is a desire, in fact quite a few people are of the view that becoming a boxing fighter is an aspiration. What is different about "cockfighting" is that the chickens are deliberately put into the arena to fight and become a spectacle. Even though fighting is an instinct for animals, this does not mean that chickens have to be "contested in an arena to fight". Because animals fight for their own reasons, namely to defend their territory or something else. In "cockfighting" the animals have no reason to fight other than being forced by humans.
When a fighting event is conducted by human for the entertainment of people, necessary arrangements are made for safety. But when a game is conducted by an animal, no safety is provided to the animal. Side by side When a man continues to lose the game or loses his ability to play the game, the game ends by declaring by the announcement of defeat. But when a fighting event is conducted by an animal like rooster, they cannot accept their incompetence and therefore have to bear their injuries against their interest which we can say by forced. It is considered a form of oppression by people which should not be allowed.
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Same with how you see it, codes can cheated though casino or programmers can provide fair system but that doubt from the gambler who usually bet with cockfighting, they are convinced that by looking from the roster they can assess if they have that edge and aside from luck which really the big factor in winning your bet, they also believing in some principles that only them who can explain, things like supernatural believe and so on.. Always present with gamblers who use cockfighting as venue of entertainment plus possible in making good and decent amount of money if they luckily predict or bring the best roster that they've got.
Accessing the ability of of the cock to give a winning fight by just physical look of the animal may also be deceiving because most time,  looks can failed you,  you may see a healthy looking fighter cock on the roster but choosing it to fight may give you a disappointing results so at that one also need to have pre determined and pre informed information and previous performances of those animals on the lineup to fight with.

Although,  I haven't seen such animal being listed on the casino before,  and I don't intend to go for that either,  btwn,  once in a while this kind of discussion is very important to give us some knowledge on what is at stake with cock fighting or any other animal fights.

Got a valid point, but there's nothing that we can do about it we are just looking at the physical appearance of the cock and it will be luck and the determination of that roster to survive, if you are lucky in picking the right fighting cock then you will win if not, if you place your money against the winning cock then your money will disappear as simple as that.

Still in the line of gambling so even you raise your fighting cock the way you wanted it to be and established everything by providing all the necessary need to make it stronger, but when facing another fighting cock which is more desperate to live, chances to lose still possible.
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