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Quote from: Odusko on September 07, 2023, 04:59:54 PM

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Yep its a blood sport they say. The tradition is more important that it needs to be passed on which is its been done since time. Its in the nature of roosters to fight each other though. Just leave 2 roosters in a 100 sqm, eventually they will meet and fight to death for no reason.

Chickens can reproduce as fast as rabbits so its not gonna be a problem if everyday chickens are killed in fighting and then eaten. AFAIK, the rooster who dies in a fight can still be cooked in fact it part of the bet and the dead rooster given to the winner.

Yes most especially when both cocks are in their prime age full with energy to take on any suspecting threat, most of the animals especially male animals always fight for conquer territories and for that there don't need much to fight to death, most of the animal fights that i have witnessed, is mostly fight till death and that is why some government does not support or permit animal wrestling.
I have seen were a cock pulled out the eyeball of another cock just in a competition that have not even started, the owners were taken unaware by the wilding cocks that were brought to fight.

Animals fight not only for territories but for females' attention like horse fighting.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 07, 2023, 04:29:37 PM

Anything that can be used to satisfy the eyes as gambling is good for the participants. When you look at this kind of gambling you would understand that there are some gambling are for fun even though they bet with money but the fun part of it is more than the monetary side. Cockfighting is fun without gambling. When you see two cocks are fighting you will be attracted to watch them with their different skills to win the other one and in the process they wound themselves.

But for the game and not for the normal cockfighting, it is for money because they bet among themselves and thinking their cock would win the fight.

They all believe that after that long time raising the cock it will give them the luxury of winning the fight, if so, they will celebrate and enjoy the money, if not then they will just repeat it again, buy another one raise it and spend money to make sure that it will be well-prepare when the time comes and they already have that savings to gamble again for their cock.[/quote]

I think it is all about the conditioning of the fighting rooster. It isn't just a belief but a scientific-based program where the fowl raiser gives the cock all the needed nutrients to be able to be in full condition when engaged in cockfighting. It is like conditioning and training just like in any combat sports. Others even have the conditioning programs so that the rooster have the advantage in terms of being ready when the time it will be set to cock fighting.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 07, 2023, 04:29:37 PM

Yup, different from one another when we deal with pleasure, there are some who are really addicted with this type of gamble and they will do everything to satisfy that desire, to the point that they will use all their savings just to bet into it even they don't have any roster they will support anyone who's inside the arena, kind of person who really wanted to please such desire.

I have seen people giving their rooster a better living place than their own family. Probably these people are addicted to cockfighting and give their rooster the priority so that they have a huge chance of winning when they let loose their cock to fight.

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Quote from: bittraffic on September 06, 2023, 12:54:16 AM

Yep its a blood sport they say. The tradition is more important that it needs to be passed on which is its been done since time. Its in the nature of roosters to fight each other though. Just leave 2 roosters in a 100 sqm, eventually they will meet and fight to death for no reason.

Chickens can reproduce as fast as rabbits so its not gonna be a problem if everyday chickens are killed in fighting and then eaten. AFAIK, the rooster who dies in a fight can still be cooked in fact it part of the bet and the dead rooster given to the winner.

Yes most especially when both cocks are in their prime age full with energy to take on any suspecting threat, most of the animals especially male animals always fight for conquer territories and for that there don't need much to fight to death, most of the animal fights that i have witnessed, is mostly fight till death and that is why some government does not support or permit animal wrestling.
I have seen were a cock pulled out the eyeball of another cock just in a competition that have not even started, the owners were taken unaware by the wilding cocks that were brought to fight.

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Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

We share the same sentiments.

I find it inhumane to know that there are people who gets joy and satisfaction from seeing animals fight against one another to win their bets. It feels like they lack empathy and compassion and only cares about themselves. It's just pure selfishness and greediness to pray and hope for a chicken to lose then die just so they could take home the winning prize. But this is all in my head and I can't really judge them as a whole by looking into their choice of gambling since they can be a responsible person at home even if they approve and support cockfighting. Although I just really hope that people will eventually stop patronizing it so cockfighting betting will be put into full stop.

It may be difficult to stop cockfighting from traditional betting because it has been around since ancient times, and those who often bet on cockfights feel that such things should be preserved. Some people feel this is a form of culture that must be maintained, even if it means sacrificing animals to satisfy the desires of the bettors and the people who watch it. Only with the awareness of each gambler can stop cockfighting betting so that it can really be stopped forever. Without that, we will only hear that they are still betting on cockfights even though we don't know where they are. Those who bet on cockfighting choose locations that are not known to many people so that no one from the government or police will arrest the bettors.

Preservation on such ancient type of betting or gambling is just really that second of their intentions on which the main ones would really be speaking about the interest of a certain type of gambling on which they wont
really be mattering about its historical or where it do came from as long it is really that allowed and permitted on the place or country he do lives on then it would really be just fine. Most people would really be in concern about animal cruelty on which it is really that something that it is really that they do mind but well these things cant really be completely stopped on which there would be places that would really be making these things to be that allowed as long they could be able to benefit in terms of taxes specially by the government then this what matter the most.

Im living in a place where cockfights do really happen and been having that their own gaming fowl arena but im not really that interested on making out bets of these roosters fighting on each other.
Just my personal thought and opinion that its never been entertaining for me on seeing some animals fighting for their lives for someones pleasures or into its bettors.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on September 06, 2023, 04:50:51 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 06, 2023, 04:08:47 PM

Nothing but a source or way of gambling, I don't any related sports or whatsoever that can compare to this type of gambling, or, it's just a reasoning to make it acceptable, but nonetheless, it's purely for the pleasure of gambling, people who are involved with cockfighting are all doing it for money, they raise and invest with the fighting roster to use it for their gambling pleasure and that's how I view this kind of gambling activity.

Anything that can be used to satisfy the eyes as gambling is good for the participants. When you look at this kind of gambling you would understand that there are some gambling are for fun even though they bet with money but the fun part of it is more than the monetary side. Cockfighting is fun without gambling. When you see two cocks are fighting you will be attracted to watch them with their different skills to win the other one and in the process they wound themselves.

But for the game and not for the normal cockfighting, it is for money because they bet among themselves and thinking their cock would win the fight.

They all believe that after that long time raising the cock it will give them the luxury of winning the fight, if so, they will celebrate and enjoy the money, if not then they will just repeat it again, buy another one raise it and spend money to make sure that it will be well-prepare when the time comes and they already have that savings to gamble again for their cock.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 06, 2023, 04:08:47 PM

Nothing but a source or way of gambling, I don't any related sports or whatsoever that can compare to this type of gambling, or, it's just a reasoning to make it acceptable, but nonetheless, it's purely for the pleasure of gambling, people who are involved with cockfighting are all doing it for money, they raise and invest with the fighting roster to use it for their gambling pleasure and that's how I view this kind of gambling activity.

Actually, looking at the gambling situation, cockfighting is not too different from horse racing or if you look at the human condition, it is no different from UFC or boxing.
Actually the concept is the same reason when things like this are always opposed because they use animals as objects that are used as gambling and why UFC or boxing is not too banned because there is an excuse that this is done by professionals and there are already doctors or experts who are ready to anticipate the worst possibilities.

But on the other hand, even for cockfighting it is the same because it is impossible for them to prepare fighting cocks carelessly on the other hand I agree because the initial orientation is pleasure, and the pleasure of each individual person will definitely be different.

Yup, different from one another when we deal with pleasure, there are some who are really addicted with this type of gamble and they will do everything to satisfy that desire, to the point that they will use all their savings just to bet into it even they don't have any roster they will support anyone who's inside the arena, kind of person who really wanted to please such desire.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 06, 2023, 04:08:47 PM

Nothing but a source or way of gambling, I don't any related sports or whatsoever that can compare to this type of gambling, or, it's just a reasoning to make it acceptable, but nonetheless, it's purely for the pleasure of gambling, people who are involved with cockfighting are all doing it for money, they raise and invest with the fighting roster to use it for their gambling pleasure and that's how I view this kind of gambling activity.

Actually, looking at the gambling situation, cockfighting is not too different from horse racing or if you look at the human condition, it is no different from UFC or boxing.
Actually the concept is the same reason when things like this are always opposed because they use animals as objects that are used as gambling and why UFC or boxing is not too banned because there is an excuse that this is done by professionals and there are already doctors or experts who are ready to anticipate the worst possibilities.

But on the other hand, even for cockfighting it is the same because it is impossible for them to prepare fighting cocks carelessly on the other hand I agree because the initial orientation is pleasure, and the pleasure of each individual person will definitely be different.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 06, 2023, 04:08:47 PM

Nothing but a source or way of gambling, I don't any related sports or whatsoever that can compare to this type of gambling, or, it's just a reasoning to make it acceptable, but nonetheless, it's purely for the pleasure of gambling, people who are involved with cockfighting are all doing it for money, they raise and invest with the fighting roster to use it for their gambling pleasure and that's how I view this kind of gambling activity.

Yes most of the cockfights that have come across, the owners of those cocks always bet with money and if you cock dies fighting it means you lose your staked amount and the animal at the same time, because of the wired procedure of the game that is what has made the game to be unpopular all the while, and this game is played in the remote region segregated area where there is no presence of the government.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 06, 2023, 04:08:47 PM

Nothing but a source or way of gambling, I don't any related sports or whatsoever that can compare to this type of gambling, or, it's just a reasoning to make it acceptable, but nonetheless, it's purely for the pleasure of gambling, people who are involved with cockfighting are all doing it for money, they raise and invest with the fighting roster to use it for their gambling pleasure and that's how I view this kind of gambling activity.

Anything that can be used to satisfy the eyes as gambling is good for the participants. When you look at this kind of gambling you would understand that there are some gambling are for fun even though they bet with money but the fun part of it is more than the monetary side. Cockfighting is fun without gambling. When you see two cocks are fighting you will be attracted to watch them with their different skills to win the other one and in the process they wound themselves.

But for the game and not for the normal cockfighting, it is for money because they bet among themselves and thinking their cock would win the fight.

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Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

We share the same sentiments.

I find it inhumane to know that there are people who gets joy and satisfaction from seeing animals fight against one another to win their bets. It feels like they lack empathy and compassion and only cares about themselves. It's just pure selfishness and greediness to pray and hope for a chicken to lose then die just so they could take home the winning prize. But this is all in my head and I can't really judge them as a whole by looking into their choice of gambling since they can be a responsible person at home even if they approve and support cockfighting. Although I just really hope that people will eventually stop patronizing it so cockfighting betting will be put into full stop.

It may be difficult to stop cockfighting from traditional betting because it has been around since ancient times, and those who often bet on cockfights feel that such things should be preserved. Some people feel this is a form of culture that must be maintained, even if it means sacrificing animals to satisfy the desires of the bettors and the people who watch it. Only with the awareness of each gambler can stop cockfighting betting so that it can really be stopped forever. Without that, we will only hear that they are still betting on cockfights even though we don't know where they are. Those who bet on cockfighting choose locations that are not known to many people so that no one from the government or police will arrest the bettors.

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In my neighborhood, a neighbor breeds chickens for food and shelter before selling them to those who enjoy placing bets on the chicken fights he will attend. Therefore, the person who looks after the chicken will also wager on the chicken he sold on the day of the fight. In addition, he will receive a tip if the chicken he sold triumphs.

When the chicken you chose to bet on wins, rumor has it that you'll also win a sizable sum of money. However, I have never gambled in a cockfight since I may not enjoy the manner of gambling because I feel bad for the chicken.

Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

Well, I also think the same as you, because I don't see the point that some hens, chickens, roosters are killing each other just so that some of them find themselves earning money that shouldn't be, because these animals are unique, they are also used for food, but not if they have to do this type of act, and I would always like each country to make laws against this because there is no sense in life having two animals to fight to death, I don't know what it feels like, I don't I know how you can feel some pleasure when you see it, but they should be prohibited, I don't see this as martial arts or any sport, I only see it as a macabre act where some make their bets to win money, which is not good.

Nothing but a source or way of gambling, I don't any related sports or whatsoever that can compare to this type of gambling, or, it's just a reasoning to make it acceptable, but nonetheless, it's purely for the pleasure of gambling, people who are involved with cockfighting are all doing it for money, they raise and invest with the fighting roster to use it for their gambling pleasure and that's how I view this kind of gambling activity.

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In my neighborhood, a neighbor breeds chickens for food and shelter before selling them to those who enjoy placing bets on the chicken fights he will attend. Therefore, the person who looks after the chicken will also wager on the chicken he sold on the day of the fight. In addition, he will receive a tip if the chicken he sold triumphs.

When the chicken you chose to bet on wins, rumor has it that you'll also win a sizable sum of money. However, I have never gambled in a cockfight since I may not enjoy the manner of gambling because I feel bad for the chicken.

Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

Well, I also think the same as you, because I don't see the point that some hens, chickens, roosters are killing each other just so that some of them find themselves earning money that shouldn't be, because these animals are unique, they are also used for food, but not if they have to do this type of act, and I would always like each country to make laws against this because there is no sense in life having two animals to fight to death, I don't know what it feels like, I don't I know how you can feel some pleasure when you see it, but they should be prohibited, I don't see this as martial arts or any sport, I only see it as a macabre act where some make their bets to win money, which is not good.

Yes, I think that you cannot compare eating an animal, which is a question of humans actually having to eat to survive even if it is plants / vegies these are also living things. Now, using animals for amusement is not ideal, but killing them for your amusement or to make money out of them is plainly immoral from any angle, even if it is cultura.

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In my neighborhood, a neighbor breeds chickens for food and shelter before selling them to those who enjoy placing bets on the chicken fights he will attend. Therefore, the person who looks after the chicken will also wager on the chicken he sold on the day of the fight. In addition, he will receive a tip if the chicken he sold triumphs.

When the chicken you chose to bet on wins, rumor has it that you'll also win a sizable sum of money. However, I have never gambled in a cockfight since I may not enjoy the manner of gambling because I feel bad for the chicken.

Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

Well, I also think the same as you, because I don't see the point that some hens, chickens, roosters are killing each other just so that some of them find themselves earning money that shouldn't be, because these animals are unique, they are also used for food, but not if they have to do this type of act, and I would always like each country to make laws against this because there is no sense in life having two animals to fight to death, I don't know what it feels like, I don't I know how you can feel some pleasure when you see it, but they should be prohibited, I don't see this as martial arts or any sport, I only see it as a macabre act where some make their bets to win money, which is not good.

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Not really a waste of time to take care of any animal, it is a problem of why are you taking care of them. It is like if you take care of a cow or a pig, the purpose is to eat it, so not really good nor bad just an utilitarian purpose. A different thing is treating the animals to fight and the like, which in my book is pretty much a bad thing.

Not all animals that are kept and bred are only intended for consumption, such as cows and so on. However, there are animals that are kept as decorations like fish, whose selling value can even be up to hundreds of dollars or even more. And there are also animals that are deliberately kept as fighting animals, such as fighting cocks/Bangkok chickens, which are the same as ornamental animals that can provide a very high selling value of up to hundreds of dollars or even more if the chicken has succeeded in winning several cockfighting competitions. So as long as "cockfighting" continues to be preserved and has many fans, then the selling price of the chicken will also be higher. So keeping fighting cocks for people who understand and cultivate them is very promising.

I have a dog at home and i keep it mainly for pet and security, haven't invested a lot into the dog language learning and his signs understanding i don't think i could possibly categorize my dog as animal for consumption or fighting even though dogs can be used for both reasons just like cock that is being mentioned in this thread and so you are right on the assumption that individuals have different reasons and motives for keeping such animals and one can not deny them if that right, unless in countries where there are animals laws.

Yes... everyone has different motives for raising certain animals and we cannot deny this because it is part of each person's beliefs and pleasures. And if you think that this is a bad action that has no benefit and is part of animal cruelty. So remain firm in your stance not to do this and prevent yourself and those closest to you from understanding that cockfighting is part of human pleasure. And that is a good action, compared to just having a long debate without any action.

And in my opinion "cockfighting has become a culture in certain societies, even though the government has made a policy regarding the prohibition of cockfighting. This cannot stop cockfighting activities carried out by the community.
However, I also see that once this policy is in place it can also have a tremendous impact where cockfighting does not become a public spectacle and young children can avoid negative spectacles (violence towards animals).

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Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

We share the same sentiments.

I find it inhumane to know that there are people who gets joy and satisfaction from seeing animals fight against one another to win their bets. It feels like they lack empathy and compassion and only cares about themselves. It's just pure selfishness and greediness to pray and hope for a chicken to lose then die just so they could take home the winning prize. But this is all in my head and I can't really judge them as a whole by looking into their choice of gambling since they can be a responsible person at home even if they approve and support cockfighting. Although I just really hope that people will eventually stop patronizing it so cockfighting betting will be put into full stop.

There's nothing we can do about it on which there would really be people who do really enjoy on seeing animals killing each other which it do really looks sad for it to see but well its their own perspective on such gambling on which there's nothing we can do since there are places which do really allows such activity or gambling and rather been that regulated or allowed. There are really things life which it had been allowed even if it do passes the line or boundary when it comes on being ethical but well there's nothing we can do if they do have that way.Its better to mind our own business and just let them be if they do have that kind of behavior and preference.

There are tons of gambling games or types on which we could really be able to touch on and without really be tending out to bet on those animals killing each other.Where's the real essence of entertainment on this one? Even myself cant really find out to be that entertaining or enjoyable on this one. So better stick into your own interest and play accordingly which you do seem that you would
really be enjoying and not this one.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on September 06, 2023, 09:49:01 AM

Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

We share the same sentiments.

I find it inhumane to know that there are people who gets joy and satisfaction from seeing animals fight against one another to win their bets. It feels like they lack empathy and compassion and only cares about themselves. It's just pure selfishness and greediness to pray and hope for a chicken to lose then die just so they could take home the winning prize. But this is all in my head and I can't really judge them as a whole by looking into their choice of gambling since they can be a responsible person at home even if they approve and support cockfighting. Although I just really hope that people will eventually stop patronizing it so cockfighting betting will be put into full stop.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on September 03, 2023, 02:02:15 AM

In my neighborhood, a neighbor breeds chickens for food and shelter before selling them to those who enjoy placing bets on the chicken fights he will attend. Therefore, the person who looks after the chicken will also wager on the chicken he sold on the day of the fight. In addition, he will receive a tip if the chicken he sold triumphs.

When the chicken you chose to bet on wins, rumor has it that you'll also win a sizable sum of money. However, I have never gambled in a cockfight since I may not enjoy the manner of gambling because I feel bad for the chicken.

Everyone should feel bad for the chickens involved because they are beating each other to death and one of them has to die only to get some people to win their bets and to entertain an audience. What kind of people would enjoy watching a poor animal die like that? There are thousands of games and sports in the world and there are people who are interested in watching and participating in cockfighting. Governments should ban such unethical and inhuman sports.

Some people compare cockfighting with boxing or martial arts and when you tell them that this is unethical and it shouldn't be enjoyed or should even be a sport, they will say that the same thing happens in boxing where two men beat each other, but they don't consider the fact that a human doesn't have to die in that game for the other one to win, it's just knocking out your opponent.

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Quote from: paxmao on September 04, 2023, 01:36:45 PM

Not really a waste of time to take care of any animal, it is a problem of why are you taking care of them. It is like if you take care of a cow or a pig, the purpose is to eat it, so not really good nor bad just an utilitarian purpose. A different thing is treating the animals to fight and the like, which in my book is pretty much a bad thing.

Not all animals that are kept and bred are only intended for consumption, such as cows and so on. However, there are animals that are kept as decorations like fish, whose selling value can even be up to hundreds of dollars or even more. And there are also animals that are deliberately kept as fighting animals, such as fighting cocks/Bangkok chickens, which are the same as ornamental animals that can provide a very high selling value of up to hundreds of dollars or even more if the chicken has succeeded in winning several cockfighting competitions. So as long as "cockfighting" continues to be preserved and has many fans, then the selling price of the chicken will also be higher. So keeping fighting cocks for people who understand and cultivate them is very promising.

Well, I agree with you though, but I must mention that all this animals you mentioned that are being kept for decoration for for fighting only have that liberty due to the country they are or live in, for a country like mine, every edible animal is meat, what ever type of fish or cock and what ever, they are all meat as long as they are edible, even rams that are sometimes engaged in a fight competition during festive periods in some part of the country, most especially in remote areas, still end up being killed and made meat for consumption at the end of the day, regardless of whether the ram was able to beat other rams or not.

Anyways, like I think I've stated on this thread before, the world consist of people with diverse believes and cultures, we see and believe in things differently, so its very understandable to know that some countries of the world do have such regards for animals believed to be good in fighting.

Chickens, roosters are an option of animals that are worthy to eat, of course, but I prefer to see things from the point of view that it is something a very voracious attraction of how they can make animals suffer, and it is Something that I can't agree with, because first it makes me feel sorry, and secondly, is there someone who likes to see that? I don't understand such morbidity, but each person in the world has very different tastes, so what I think is that Gauls should not be legal, because they are domestic or house animals to raise young or something like that, that is what I see, it's like putting cats to fight, dogs to fight to the death, and it's a very violent act, and it's very good for Making bets , but too cruel in my opinion.

It is really a sad truth because in our country, it is normal. I mean, there are huge arenas on this, and the bets are millions. Also, there are farms on those fighting chickens to make them good at fighting. It is really normal here, but even I don't understand it, and I've only seen it, but most of the people are cheering when the fight is going on, and they are enjoying it. Even for myself, I can't even kill a chicken just to cook it because it is very violent to me.

Yep its a blood sport they say. The tradition is more important that it needs to be passed on which is its been done since time. Its in the nature of roosters to fight each other though. Just leave 2 roosters in a 100 sqm, eventually they will meet and fight to death for no reason.

Chickens can reproduce as fast as rabbits so its not gonna be a problem if everyday chickens are killed in fighting and then eaten. AFAIK, the rooster who dies in a fight can still be cooked in fact it part of the bet and the dead rooster given to the winner.

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Quote from: Richkiedx on September 04, 2023, 11:30:53 PM

Cockfighting also knows as "SABONG" IN Philippines chicken cock is used here and there is a blade on the foot of the chicken before the chicken is put into the fight there is something called conditioning of the chicken or training in the philippines SABONG is legal in coloseums there are prizes here there are so called fast skills which means which chicken can kill the opponent the fastest is the winner

Yes there's a place where this game will consider as Legal because they have the documents or Permit and yes in the Arena gamblers can win big amounts of money once they will become a champion but not just that cause a Filipino is a Filipino every festival there's a hidden cock fighting in every barangays which is without supporting documents in shorts illegal and we can not deny the the fact that there are many gambler who gamble even though they knew already that is and illegal.

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Quote from: paxmao on September 04, 2023, 01:36:45 PM

Not really a waste of time to take care of any animal, it is a problem of why are you taking care of them. It is like if you take care of a cow or a pig, the purpose is to eat it, so not really good nor bad just an utilitarian purpose. A different thing is treating the animals to fight and the like, which in my book is pretty much a bad thing.

Not all animals that are kept and bred are only intended for consumption, such as cows and so on. However, there are animals that are kept as decorations like fish, whose selling value can even be up to hundreds of dollars or even more. And there are also animals that are deliberately kept as fighting animals, such as fighting cocks/Bangkok chickens, which are the same as ornamental animals that can provide a very high selling value of up to hundreds of dollars or even more if the chicken has succeeded in winning several cockfighting competitions. So as long as "cockfighting" continues to be preserved and has many fans, then the selling price of the chicken will also be higher. So keeping fighting cocks for people who understand and cultivate them is very promising.

Well, I agree with you though, but I must mention that all this animals you mentioned that are being kept for decoration for for fighting only have that liberty due to the country they are or live in, for a country like mine, every edible animal is meat, what ever type of fish or cock and what ever, they are all meat as long as they are edible, even rams that are sometimes engaged in a fight competition during festive periods in some part of the country, most especially in remote areas, still end up being killed and made meat for consumption at the end of the day, regardless of whether the ram was able to beat other rams or not.

Anyways, like I think I've stated on this thread before, the world consist of people with diverse believes and cultures, we see and believe in things differently, so its very understandable to know that some countries of the world do have such regards for animals believed to be good in fighting.

Chickens, roosters are an option of animals that are worthy to eat, of course, but I prefer to see things from the point of view that it is something a very voracious attraction of how they can make animals suffer, and it is Something that I can't agree with, because first it makes me feel sorry, and secondly, is there someone who likes to see that? I don't understand such morbidity, but each person in the world has very different tastes, so what I think is that Gauls should not be legal, because they are domestic or house animals to raise young or something like that, that is what I see, it's like putting cats to fight, dogs to fight to the death, and it's a very violent act, and it's very good for Making bets , but too cruel in my opinion.

It is really a sad truth because in our country, it is normal. I mean, there are huge arenas on this, and the bets are millions. Also, there are farms on those fighting chickens to make them good at fighting. It is really normal here, but even I don't understand it, and I've only seen it, but most of the people are cheering when the fight is going on, and they are enjoying it. Even for myself, I can't even kill a chicken just to cook it because it is very violent to me.

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Quote from: danadc on September 05, 2023, 02:27:39 PM

Chickens, roosters are an option of animals that are worthy to eat, of course, but I prefer to see things from the point of view that it is something a very voracious attraction of how they can make animals suffer, and it is Something that I can't agree with, because first it makes me feel sorry, and secondly, is there someone who likes to see that? I don't understand such morbidity, but each person in the world has very different tastes, so what I think is that Gauls should not be legal, because they are domestic or house animals to raise young or something like that, that is what I see, it's like putting cats to fight, dogs to fight to the death, and it's a very violent act, and it's very good for Making bets , but too cruel in my opinion.

The sensibilities of people change over the course of time, so what we consider to be right now is not what people on the past considered to be right, I am sure that many years ago people did not thought too much about putting two different animals to fight but now we are against it.

Now there are even some people that are against sports like boxing, but I think that is different as those fighting above a ring know very well what they are doing and the consequences they may face on the future, while an animal does not have any option to refuse to fight if their owners force them.

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