Topic: Cockfighting? - page 14. (Read 3863 times)

This is what has been happening all this time because local officials think that they can use this opportunity to ask for tribute from bettors or bookies to continue running cockfights without being detected by regulators. These regional officials can organize everything well, especially since they have many contacts at the center so it doesn't make it difficult for them to arrange the matches in secret. And maybe that's why cockfighting continues in secret without being tracked by the regulators because of protection from corrupt regulators.

The authorities really have difficulty finding out where the cockfights are because corrupt authorities protect them. And as long as the corrupt authorities are not caught carrying out their actions, secret cockfighting will continue to function well.

Cockfighting betting has been around for a long time, even since our grandparents, so it has become a local culture in several places, especially in Asia. It is true that cockfighting is like other bets that use money, but currently, there has been a lot of rejection from the public who say that cockfighting betting is a form of violence against animals. So some governments are trying to start banning cockfighting betting. But because it has been around for a long time and many people still like it, this cockfighting bet may not be completely banned. Maybe there are still cockfighting bets in locations that are not known to the regulator so that those who bet at these locations can still feel comfortable betting on cockfights.

And I agree that cockfighting betting should not be used as a source of income. The chickens that are used as bets will be defeated by stronger chickens and even if they can win, the victory is only temporary. People who bet on cockfights don't think about looking for sources of income from other places and only rely on cockfight betting.

Accessing the ability of of the cock to give a winning fight by just physical look of the animal may also be deceiving because most time,  looks can failed you,  you may see a healthy looking fighter cock on the roster but choosing it to fight may give you a disappointing results so at that one also need to have pre determined and pre informed information and previous performances of those animals on the lineup to fight with.

Although,  I haven't seen such animal being listed on the casino before,  and I don't intend to go for that either,  btwn,  once in a while this kind of discussion is very important to give us some knowledge on what is at stake with cock fighting or any other animal fights.

If it's been part of your culture, I doubt that it will be ban for good because if your government think it's bad, then you won't see it already.
But the think is that there are countries that makes it illegal, but for some strange reasons, people still bet on them as it was part of their history already.
Like you said, politicians love them, for them it's a sport and the winner might have a bragging rights to have the best cockfighters in the country and their farm could be known to have a good breed.
And so even ordinary people might go there and buy their cockfighters and so it will become cyclical.

Who on their right minds on trying out to make out some comparison in between boxing and cockfight? Yes,they do involved on fighting in between but we know about that huge differences because its totally different
on winning the game which taking down the opponent but differs on being killed or just simply been beat up and its not something that we can compare in between humans and animals, there's so much difference.
Cockfighting is really that known or popular on southeast asian countries on which there are really some countries or citizens who do really having that negativity look with this kind of gambling which it do involves
animal which turns out to be a cruel thing but there's nothing we can do since its been part of the tradition or being that known and been done for how many decades upto now.
This might be looking that interesting and entertaining for other people but for me, im not really that a fan of this one but somewhat i do able to see and encounter places which this cockfighting is really that popular.
Bets made are really that also huge which even rich people are really that engaging into it.

        -   Well, you're right there; cockfighting is very different from boxing. Because in boxing people fight and in cockfighting it's an animal, and the bad thing is whoever loses in cockfighting will definitely be a dish, and the sad thing is, as you said, in cockfighting they don't know the reason why they have to fight both, unlike humans fighting is not like that.

But here in our country, that's not happening in the provinces. Nowadays,  there is cockfighting online that can be downloaded to our mobile phones via the Play Store, and there are many options, but not in all places here. Cockfighting is not legal in our country because it depends on the covering locale.

It's crazy, isn't it? It's animal cruelty. We know it's cruel in the animal world and maybe chickens at times can fight to the death in the wild. But the fact that some humans are grooming them specifically to fight to the death matches with the audience cheering and gambling it's something not modern. Some animal fighting is also done in some countries but at least it's done underground so it dies in the long run unlike here it is lawful. And these rich people buy and sell quality cocks for around $100k each and many of them just die in a few minutes of fighting.

I have relatives and friends who are into this type of hobby. And I'll probably get bashed by some of them if they read my opinion about cockfighting.

Yes, on average, local gambling like this is not played in public spaces like cities, but is played in closed forests where this game is certainly a lot of criticism from other people because it tortures animals that should not be used as material for gambling cockfights, actually in this technological era it can be Some kind of NFT or something is used where people can use it without having to hurt animals.

There is a lot that can be developed when cockfighting is combined with current technology such as AI or NFTs. Surely everything will go further, I don't think this ancient method deserves to be maintained either, because of course there are not many fans of this gambling except for people who live in rural areas. or in villages, it is not appropriate to enter crypto casinos, whenever this kind of gambling is always discovered by the police and the people involved are always arrested.

Chickens for as long as ive known have always been a livestock and pets for some people, which still end up in a pot of soup whenever an event comes up that requires making them meat..

Betting on cockfights I think is just the same as betting on any other game, even sports like football and the rest, betting on cockfighting is not supposed to be anyone source of income, same way supposed normal bets on sports like football is isn't to be anyone's source of income ..

But its just unfortunate that in the world we live in a world where many people are just out looking for easy ways to make money not minding the risk involved, and such betting happen to be one that doesn't require the gambler doing anything hard,  so it's understandable why some take betting on such stuffs as cockfight as a means of earning, which I highly personally discourage anyway .

yes , to become a boxer it is either a dream or a desire  but in chicken ? they did not choose to be there , actually they are for food in the table but not for the arena to be a satisfying event.
but whether we like it or not, this has been happening for many years , even before our ancestors so lets accept that fact.
because there is actually none of available , I don't know from questionable or new casinos but AFAIK there is no casino in crypto that offers cockfighting bets.

What's unfortunate is that a lot of people from local authorities are corrupted and they take bribes from the event organizers to not interrupt when the fights are happening because the organizers get a lot of money through bets that people make on the cocks that are fighting, and the authorities don't interrupt even if they know the locations and people behind the sport because they take money from them and they don't care about animal rights or anything like that.

This is the actual reason why it is still being held in remote areas of some countries. Otherwise, if authorities actually wanted to stop this forever, it would not really be difficult for them to find out about their secret places and arrest those who are involved and also those who are organizing the fights.

Yes, that is true because, for them, it is entertainment in between their activities. But some can't divide their time between work and cockfighting so they only bet on cockfights daily. They need to be aware of this so they can better think that betting on cockfighting is not a way out to earn money. And when there is a pandemic, they cannot go to cockfighting venues because they gather in a place prohibited by the government. But after the pandemic ended, they started betting on cockfighting again and this is what makes cockfighting still popular in some places, even in hidden places far from regulators.

Cockfighting can be banned everywhere, but that requires firmness from the regulator and showing the reasons that cockfighting is no longer allowed. Maybe they need to gain knowledge that it would be better if the chickens they are betting on could be used as livestock or pets.

Cockfighting although I do not support it is still very popular here in my country. It is a regular hobby among very rich people down to the poor. A few years ago when the pandemic blocked cockpit arenas from opening, online betting on cockfighting became very popular and it was reported that its daily volume ranges from double to triple digits in millions of dollars in my country alone.

I wonder if cockfighting can be banned in my country in the next few years since it is also a popular hobby among our politicians. Rich people who live in crowded metro cities that love this sport usually have farms in rural areas for their cocks.

Even though cockfighting or animal fighting has been banned, there are places where these animals are used to fight and they do it secretly and no regulator knows about it. As long as spectators and bettors are playing in the fights, the fights will continue and there will probably be more places where the fights are held secretly. The authorities need to check places suspected of being used as fighting venues and perhaps they already have data on bettors from previous arrests.

Local authorities must collaborate with all parties to find where the fighting is taking place to stop it. And even though it takes time, they must keep doing it because otherwise, the animal fight will continue without any inspection from the authorities.

What a stupid comparison one would even try to make. How would you even think of comparing an even done by two people knowing fully well they ought to d that to get the bag( money) and disrespectful making two animals fight inorder for one person to actually get money or both persons to be fully entertained.

When we are making comparison of boxing to cock fighting, they are two different things entirely, boxing is a game the boxers themselves wish to do and go for as a career and there's no abuse in that because no one is forcing them to fight, they so wish to do so because of the fun and love they have for boxing, cocks are animals which i believe they don't like fighting naturally except they are competing for survival, which means we only engage the on fight at our own will and don't mind about the discomfort we are bringing unto them while we get entertained.

If you compare it to boxing it is clearly different even though both are "fights." In boxing it is clear that it is a desire, in fact quite a few people are of the view that becoming a boxing fighter is an aspiration. What is different about "cockfighting" is that the chickens are deliberately put into the arena to fight and become a spectacle. Even though fighting is an instinct for animals, this does not mean that chickens have to be "contested in an arena to fight". Because animals fight for their own reasons, namely to defend their territory or something else. In "cockfighting" the animals have no reason to fight other than being forced by humans.

Same with how you see it, codes can cheated though casino or programmers can provide fair system but that doubt from the gambler who usually bet with cockfighting, they are convinced that by looking from the roster they can assess if they have that edge and aside from luck which really the big factor in winning your bet, they also believing in some principles that only them who can explain, things like supernatural believe and so on.. Always present with gamblers who use cockfighting as venue of entertainment plus possible in making good and decent amount of money if they luckily predict or bring the best roster that they've got.

The sport is already banned in most parts of the world because it's an unethical and selfish sport. People who make cocks fight and those who spectate are basically selfish because they make those poor animals fight to death only so that they can watch and enjoy and place bets and win. There are thousands of other games and sports that they can do the same thing with, they don't need to make those poor animals suffer just for their entertainment.

Social activists and animal protecting authorities should find such places and cease this from happening and they should also arrest people who are involved in cockfighting and also those who are there watching and making bets on the games, this is the only way they might stop doing this unethical act.

Of course this is wrong. 
But in the countries you mentioned, it is still impossible to stop such entertainment even if the appropriate laws are passed.  If such laws are adopted, then the business associated with cockfighting will simply become disguised, secret, but will continue. 
I think that only after decades and several generations of people will it be possible to state that these cockfi hts are a thing of the past, as cruel and unacceptable entertainment for civilized people.  However, there is one more condition for such a course of events.  People in these countries will have to receive the best education, and at the same time, moral standards will have to be present in teaching children that such entertainment is extremely cruel and completely unacceptable in a developed society. 
This is the only way, after several generations of people in countries where this is a tradition, this rather cruel entertainment can be   stopped.

Cockfighting is a local game and the first time I have watch such game was in a local place in my country this happened between some farmers that are near my agricultural land in the area, I could see some local placing some money on the game by using their cocks to fight, but the problem is not many people are into this game because it is so local so much that some countries that don't have interest in such games.

You can't travel down to Canada or US and except to see such game happening, you can easily see such only in countries like India, Africa countries, Vietnam and few others, some countries even place right ban on this type of games.

I am not a big fan of such game because it's cruelty to me, you are simply forcing the cocks to fight each other, it's like intentionally inflicting pain on the animals and deriving fun and pleasure from it, I believe it's wrong.