Topic: Cockfighting? - page 2. (Read 3644 times)

I also often see groups of people betting on cockfights, this is commonplace everywhere, especially in Indonesia, but because all forms of gambling are prohibited, cockfights are always carried out in secret. Cockfighting is so interesting that it is no wonder that it also attracts the interest of military officers regardless of whether they are police or army, in fact I actually found out that some of them were important figure in their area.

You are right, it is a people's pleasure but sometimes we are amazed at the amount of money at stake. I've seen them lose motorbikes because they lost bets, even cars in the betting arena. Sometimes I see it as something crazy, but that's how it is when someone has lost control because they are too confident that their chicken can win.

Cockfighting games is not that popular in many countries and governments in those regions they are not popular go against it because they believe it's a means of abuse on these animals, though we are catching our own fun through such means but yet we still have to consider that they are living creatures, but on the occasion of government tasking for this kind of game is alarming as well, also do people have to rent a stage to host the sport activities than doing it on a regular floor or open environment.

Basing up on what do really actually happens on cockfighting scenario when it comes to legal aspect then expect that there would really be illegal things yet not all would really be that preferring on doing things legally because of avoiding something specially on tax or whatsoever but whats the point on joining up these illegal places if there are legal ones? You are really just that putting up yourself on big trouble once you do get caught. When it comes to entertainment about cockfighting then we do really know that there are really places in the world on which this kind of gambling or betting
does really exist and really that very interesting for those people who are really that a fan of it. It isnt really that an issue but we know that there would really be those people who would really be
always that talking about animal cruelty but well its their choice and their interest on doing so. Just let them be. 

I wasn't talking about legality of it. I was asking about your moral stance. But you didn't answer any of my questions.

I wasn't talking about animals dying, this was about hurting them needlessly, also you can't compare it to sport that 2 fighters give their consent to be hurt. Chickens can't give their consent, so people organizing the fights are just choosing to torment them.

I have been a vegan for 30+ years, and even if i was a meat eater, i wouldn't see killing for eating equal to needlessly to making them suffer.

And this wasn't hypocrisy, i was merely asking questions and thought you might want to explain yourself when you say it's entertaining to watch.
For someone who doesn't understand the entertainment part, surely you can explain what's the thrill of animals getting needlessly hurt for your entertainement.

For the context, i feel the exact opposite of entertainement, just because it's hard coded to me to feel nauseous when i see animals getting tormented and hurt just for laughs.

You said that you can't control the sport, but i wasn't asking that either. I was just asking what you get out of it? It's ok to say if you get pleasure from suffering, it if that's the case. I just wanted to understood how do you feel about it as there must be a reason for finding that sport in-particular enjoyable. I wasn't judging, i was asking your point of view on morality of this.

Seems just a story but with those who got that experienced it's an additional enjoyment, and moving back to this gambling activity, yes like what I mentioned both legal and illegal cockfighting continue being facilitated, and if I get it right not just by simple people but there are also known names with known titles who also enjoyed betting with this kind of gambling.

Lol! That's crazy. But during the pandemic where cockfighting was temporarily banned I had my first experiences. My friend's family had a huge backyard and that is where the cockfighting happened. It was my first time seeing cocks wearing their blades fighting. And it was also my first time betting on cockfights while drinking liquor.

But it never came to my mind of a possible police raid. Another friend of mine usually sponsors cockfighting in his place during the pandemic. There was a time they were raided by the police but he was so quick that by the time the police arrived, he was already in his house overlooking the area through the window. When he saw that an old man was the only one who got caught, he went to the police precinct and paid the fines for the release.

Yes, that's what I am talking about. As we're living in a modern and technology, This is the latest state of the art version of the Cockfighting- The E-Sabong. This became so popular at the height of the pandemic when people are at home, doing it as their past times, but this activity is ore than an amusement because there's money involved. Gamblers who bet on this game says that it's easier to play and very convenient too, because they don't need to travel to the actual cockfighting pits.

I don't know if any provider provides cockfighting. But let me tell you about a funny situation from Turkey; normally it is forbidden, but if you go to any bird protection and survival association, you will see cockfighting Because these gamblers use that community to provide illegal cockfighting.

I totally agree with you on that, and what's ironic is that you will see very big crowds in the venues where these cockfights are held, they come in large numbers just to watch a couple of cocks fighting each other till one of them dies and they enjoy watching that. What kind of a cruel person would enjoy watching one animal killing the other in front of their eyes? I know that in the wild, predators kill the prey and then eat it, but that's nature, and in this case, they are both prey fighting and trying to kill each other just because humans are making them do that.

So, it's not actually just the people that have a lot of money and free time that go to watch these games but there are a lot of interested spectators that take out time to just go and watch the games, and those who bet on these games are also people who might not have a lot of money but they like doing it.

Cock fight is one of the popular game in gambling sector. It's usually seen on the ruler area of a country. The people are village used to make it entertainment method or some people who are connected gambling they make it entertainment and earning way by bet money. I don't know about properly cockfight it may be a season game. There is a some kind of game like cock fighting is called bull fighting is also popular game people use to gambling in it.

In our country this is illegal work. Government officially baned in our country. The people of some village area in our country there also play cock fighting for entertainment method and use it for gambling. Altough is illegal but they hide it from the government and they make money from illegal way. Fighting is not too much popular in our country but sometime it seen in villages area.

Speaking of getting strong cock that been fed for weeks and giving it the best training that will make it strong enough to fight other cocks, i am just so curious, how exactly is this training given?, for personally, i understand cocks not to understand humans the same way some dogs and horses do, how possible is it to give or train a cock?, are they given some kind of drugs or something? i have asked this before, but i did not get a reply from anyone with experience, or maybe someone did replied and i missed it, I would really love to know just in case one day, i can decide to buy some cocks, bring them up, and anytime i want them to fight, i will know how or what to do to engage them naturally in a fight.

Someone with experience should please tell me how this is done.

Got some friends who are actively participating with cockfighting, they love following those patrons both in a legal way and those who are doing it underground, there's additional excitement according to them when you know that any moment something might happen and you need to be fast in terms of running and good in finding alternative ways to escape from the authorities in case the place got raided.

It's strange but it has become the tradition here ever since.
And to be clear, cockfighting is both legal and illegal in the Philippines. Vague? Let's clear this out.

Cockfighting was treated the same as basketball, a popular sport in the Philippines. However, it is more of gambling than sport. People spend their time in breeding in terms of cock fights and as a business. Now, why do I say it is legal and illegal at the same time? There's a law in the Philippines (Cockfighting Law of 1974) that cockfighting is considered legal depending on the location where the game is held. (You can view the full description on the internet)

It becomes more popular during the pandemic season. That time, we have what we call E-sabong, an online cockfighting where all bettors can easily add money to their online accounts. E-sabong operates every day, there are more than 100 rounds every single day, and each round has different bets, bettors can win by choosing the rooster they want to place their bet with the options of MERON, WALA, or DRAW.

Just simply sticking with that main mechanics of the game or certain gambling then it would really be just that understandable that it would really be playing out on a single condition which it would really be fighting to the death knowing that those Rooster been equipped by some sharp blade on which the moment these roosters fight then one of them would surely be ending up on dying which its obviously that it wont really be able to fight anymore and this is where betting do really been apply on whose gonna win. Sounds cruel? Yes it does but there's nothing we can do since there are really places in the world that will really be that weird on some countries when it comes to the things that they are dealing with but since its their choice and following on things that they've been getting used to then it would really be just that normal that that other people might be seeing that
to be odd or not right at all.

Speaking about legality then it would really be depending on the government but since its been allowed or having those licensed arenas then its safe to say that they are really that
allowed on such thing.Making taxes out of this gambling thing will really be something significant and this is what they would really be prioritizing.

Sice cock fighting is regionally restricted and popular at the same time, those thst find themselves in the area where such games are accepted and played, those who engage in cock fighting as a game will have a way of building their animal at some point and to meet a certain requirement because no one will want to fight with a sick or unhealthy cock since doing so will only increase his losing rate and also the possibility of even losing the cock along the line.


But since cock fighting is not so much a popular game around the world, we may not have a standard practice for such games as cock fight, and could be seen as an unregulated game in those areas.

That can be a lucrative business for those that are in a rural area where there is no law that is against people using cocks for street fighting. There are people that are making good profits from this kind of street game mostly when they have a good and string cocks that had been fed for weeks and given training that will enable it to fight other cocks in the street and bring profits for the owners. This kind of game is mostly ban in advanced regions where there is strict rules against animal usage for unsolicited reasons. Making good decisions is what matters when gambling.

The truth is that the Philippines seems to me to do very strange things, nice, bad, I don't know. Legalizing cockfights is something that is very big, well, but there is something that interests me, how can they control that the animals do not get involved? That is something so inviting, because establishing the winner can leave one with hope that perhaps they could have recovered and won, that is something that intrigues me, I would have to be quite an expert in charge of deciding how or what the criteria are, and what if it's something like that, it's something that draws attention, that boxing thing sounds quite interesting, what happens is that we or well at least I'm used to seeing that a fight of gllso occurs until one of the two Roosters die, and to control games or cockfights in places is very difficult, because anywhere where everything is something hidden or something they can do, the only option is to give them very severe punishments, so in this order of things the authorities would have a very difficult task. big, because I know that this gives a lot of money , Especially to the Organizers.

When we think about doing big things with animals, animal defenders will always come out, maybe sometimes in the Philippines they have that law, and they can do the practice, but I am sure that from other countries they will Start demanding that they repeal that law because it is animal abuse and that is not good for the year or anything like that, so in this order of ideas things when they are caused by animals is delicate, the truth is and I would not say anything until what they are doing, personally I believe that these practices worldwide will be eradicated, they may be very traditional or they may be very indigenous but it will not happen for a long time. I have seen that the way things are with animals is something else, I really wouldn't get involved in that Because it is Something too delicate, I would say that when it comes time to do something like that , I wouldn't want to Participate in any of it until it is completely legal.

Pretty much. Cockfighting is a well known gambling game in our country and the government is ok with it because I believe they control it and of course they generate income from it by collecting taxes. Even if cockfighting arena is available in our local area, there are still people who operates underground illegal cockfighting games that are being raided by the authorities. I don't do cockfighting but I think people resort to illegal cockfighting fights because of the heavy tax that the cockfighting arena collects. It's a give and take situation but I don't think that this cockfighting game will disappear in our country soon. In fact, I haven't even seen any protest about physical arena cockfighting in my whole life.

Banning cockfighting seems impossible since it is protected and some government officials profit from it. Even if the government were to implement a ban, it is likely that some smaller cities would continue to operate the activity, as some law enforcement officials may be corrupt.

Banning this bloodthirsty entertainment is necessary, especially since there have been cases where owners were attacked by their own chickens, as was the case last August. It is important to protect both the animals and the public from such cruel and potentially dangerous practices.

Some already had made good business in finding suitable cocks to serve the purpose of gambling, but this does not add to the increase in the amount of buying them except for the specific ones that serves such purpose, they may even travel all the way far to other countries in seeking for how to buy the best cocks for this entertainment purpose, this kind of gambling entertainment had been stopped in some countries while some are still permitting for such.