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Topic: CoinJar - Australia's first VC-backed Bitcoin startup - page 3. (Read 39150 times)

vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
Warning: CoinJar Filler can take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar at any time.

whats this all about please explain?

CoinJar Filler is just an app for CoinJar. When you sell Bitcoin, you are not authorising a payment directly in your wallet, so you need to give CoinJar Filler authority to take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar. We obviously own both services so this is just a matter of explicit consent.

You won't be charged anything if you don't place a sell order.

my concern is "at any time"

does this mean say I had 1 btc in coinjar, you could just come and take that so meet some other short term supply demand....?

also when you say wallet you you mean my coin jar wallet?

This phrase describes what CoinJar Filler can technically do by the establishment of the billing agreement. We won't do that.

If you replace "CoinJar Filler" with "SomeRandomApp", the same phrase should make sense to you. It's like giving out your credit card number to a merchant, who can really take money from you "at any time".
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
Warning: CoinJar Filler can take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar at any time.

whats this all about please explain?

CoinJar Filler is just an app for CoinJar. When you sell Bitcoin, you are not authorising a payment directly in your wallet, so you need to give CoinJar Filler authority to take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar. We obviously own both services so this is just a matter of explicit consent.

You won't be charged anything if you don't place a sell order.

my concern is "at any time"

does this mean say I had 1 btc in coinjar, you could just come and take that so meet some other short term supply demand....?

also when you say wallet you you mean my coin jar wallet?
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
Warning: CoinJar Filler can take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar at any time.

whats this all about please explain?

CoinJar Filler is just an app for CoinJar. When you sell Bitcoin, you are not authorising a payment directly in your wallet, so you need to give CoinJar Filler authority to take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar. We obviously own both services so this is just a matter of explicit consent.

You won't be charged anything if you don't place a sell order.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
Warning: CoinJar Filler can take Bitcoin out of your CoinJar at any time.

whats this all about please explain?
ojm
newbie
Activity: 13
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To see this, do you need to send coins to them first?

Also, can you please tell me what is that bank account verification procedure?

To buy BTC, I had to provide photo ID and proof of address (well first few purchases I didn't, but they have changed policy: http://blog.coinjar.io/2013/08/19/identification-requirements-deposit-limits/ ).

Also, for withdrawing, they have this blog article: http://blog.coinjar.io/2013/11/25/selling-and-withdrawing-with-coinjar/

To get the current spot price I just go to coinjar and click "Filler" at the top - that takes you to the spot prices. You have to sign up to get a quote - I dont think you have to send coins to get a quote, but Im not 100% sure on that point.

You just need to sign-up to get prices, no need to deposit. They want you to buy, so need to see prices before you can buy.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
It's very hard to say without subscribing to your website and sending coins, how much exactly I get from you for 1 coin in AUD at any given time.

All sites that buy coins in AU basically say it on the first page, like $1234 + 5% and do not require any subscription, you just fill in your bank details, get a quote - before sending coins - and then send coins if you're happy.

Your service for selling coins seem to be very unclear and unnecessarily complicated.

so those other sites did not collect AML or KYC documents?

Not for selling for sure, I've never bought coins in my life so can only talk about selling, you can google "sell bitcoin Australia" and see for yourself, normally it's just one page where as I said you first get a quote for the desired amount, then fill in your email and Australian bank details, that's it. I'm no expert but I believe they operate legally and some of them do it for a long time, so demanding anything more than that simple interface seems unreasonable.

To get the current spot price I just go to coinjar and click "Filler" at the top - that takes you to the spot prices. You have to sign up to get a quote - I dont think you have to send coins to get a quote, but Im not 100% sure on that point.
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 11
It's very hard to say without subscribing to your website and sending coins, how much exactly I get from you for 1 coin in AUD at any given time.

All sites that buy coins in AU basically say it on the first page, like $1234 + 5% and do not require any subscription, you just fill in your bank details, get a quote - before sending coins - and then send coins if you're happy.

Your service for selling coins seem to be very unclear and unnecessarily complicated.

so those other sites did not collect AML or KYC documents?

Not for selling for sure, I've never bought coins in my life so can only talk about selling, you can google "sell bitcoin Australia" and see for yourself, normally it's just one page where as I said you first get a quote for the desired amount, then fill in your email and Australian bank details, that's it. I'm no expert but I believe they operate legally and some of them do it for a long time, so demanding anything more than that simple interface seems unreasonable.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1002
It's very hard to say without subscribing to your website and sending coins, how much exactly I get from you for 1 coin in AUD at any given time.

All sites that buy coins in AU basically say it on the first page, like $1234 + 5% and do not require any subscription, you just fill in your bank details, get a quote - before sending coins - and then send coins if you're happy.

Your service for selling coins seem to be very unclear and unnecessarily complicated.

so those other sites did not collect AML or KYC documents?
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 11
It's very hard to say without subscribing to your website and sending coins, how much exactly I get from you for 1 coin in AUD at any given time.

It's very easy once logged in.



To see this, do you need to send coins to them first?

Also, can you please tell me what is that bank account verification procedure?
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1520
Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
wow, 2% and 1.1% are nearly Bitcoinica spread fees of arround 10%  Grin
ojm
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
It's very hard to say without subscribing to your website and sending coins, how much exactly I get from you for 1 coin in AUD at any given time.

It's very easy once logged in.

http://i.imgur.com/cTPvS6U.png
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 11
It's very hard to say without subscribing to your website and sending coins, how much exactly I get from you for 1 coin in AUD at any given time.

All sites that buy coins in AU basically say it on the first page, like $1234 + 5% and do not require any subscription, you just fill in your bank details, get a quote - before sending coins - and then send coins if you're happy.

Your service for selling coins seem to be very unclear and unnecessarily complicated.
ojm
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Australian Bitcoin Exchange CoinJar Gets A$500,000 in Venture Funding

http://www.coindesk.com/australia-bitcoin-exchange-coinjar-venture-funding/

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Melbourne, Australia-based startup CoinJar announced it will receive “Australia’s first major bitcoin investment”, signing a deal with local venture capital firm Blackbird Ventures to the tune of A$500,000 (US$455,000). The money will come from a group of individual investors with years of technology and startup experience.

CoinJar, founded in February 2013 by local entrepreneurs Asher Tan and Ryan Zhou, is a bitcoin buy/sell exchange and online wallet service with a clean and simple interface that allows customers to link certain bank accounts for direct transfers in and out of the system. It has also developed an iPhone app available internationally and CoinJar Checkout, a payment processing system for merchants with daily transfers from bitcoin to local fiat currency.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
Werent you involved with Bitcoinica?  Cool
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
I have personally been using Coinjar to buy and sell bitcoins for the last 6 months. I dont use is as an online wallet, and if you do you should only keep a small amount on it.
That being said, buying and selling on coinjar is very easy, and I have never waited more than 48 hours for a deposit to arrive from a sale, or for my money to be credited to my coinjar.
As soon as you have bought BTC move them to an offline wallet. Simple.
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1520
Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
welcome back zhoutong! wish you many new friends.

"Australia's first VC-backed Bitcoin startup" must not mean it is good per definition.  Roll Eyes

...the best and most beautiful Bitcoin wallet designed for iOS devices.
sounds like you learned not much in this past year of grow up.


your new bitcoin related project is a direct competitor to inputs.io (Australia) and inputs.io was hacked a few weeks ago. surprise, surprise!  Roll Eyes

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Ryan is a veteran entrepreneur and Bitcoin guru. Technically and commercially adept, he’s founded several successful startups and remains a prominent figure in the Bitcoin community.

Bitcoin guru? maybe...

Remains a prominent figure in the Bitcoin community? definitely... in touch with the Bitcoinica desaster and personal drama of many bitcointalk.org users.
hero member
Activity: 499
Merit: 500
Is coinjar back up and running properly? I was about to make my first deposit but this thread made me hesitate. What would be the next best site for an Australian to purchase BTC, I dont want to solely rely on Coinjar in the future.

The only problem I've had with coinjar is slow deposits.  A friend had a problem with a slow order fill (all day) during the crash earlier in the week.

I use bitpiggy as well as coinjar.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Is coinjar back up and running properly? I was about to make my first deposit but this thread made me hesitate. What would be the next best site for an Australian to purchase BTC, I dont want to solely rely on Coinjar in the future.
hero member
Activity: 499
Merit: 500
I'm worried if we're going to see the same thing here as with bitconica scam.

I am getting very nervous i wish i never signed up and deposited $400

I have already written it down as a loss.

Nab to Nab since friday, no idea why its still not in my account.

If not in soon i will personally fly down to melbourne to visit their office to find out where is my money (no threat)

sort it out guys this is ridiculous.

NAB to NAB deposit made Thursday, credited Sunday.  I would expect you would see yours tonight or tomorrow.  Have you raised a support ticket - I did, and did eventually get a response.
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