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Topic: CoinLenders Lawsuit - page 3. (Read 25369 times)

hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
December 17, 2013, 12:17:19 AM
I don't think that's relevant, there are legitimate losses and defaults, but most believe that the whole CL thing is just a scam.
member
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Novice Bitcoin Trader
December 16, 2013, 08:57:44 AM
Wondering, how much did TF lost, before he implemented the ID Proof Check.
(the show your face with the id requirement).

Bought/Stolen ID's was used for making bitcoin loans.
hero member
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R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
December 15, 2013, 12:52:19 PM
It's good to know that there is some action taking place at least.
full member
Activity: 131
Merit: 100
December 13, 2013, 08:07:26 AM
I have no idea how long these things usually take, so I'll leave it up to those more experienced Smiley

I also have a reference number from the WA Police.  If anyone wants it send me a PM.
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
TradeFortress has to pay his debitors
December 12, 2013, 08:55:24 AM
No it's in the hands of the police now.  There isn't much else to do but wait from my end.
I am following things up now and again to make sure we're not forgotten but nothing worth updating has happened yet.
These things take time... :/

Thanks, batman, not crabman. Yes, this lack of updates is being difficult for many of us. Nevertheless, do you guys think is possible or reasonable to state a deadline (30, 60 days?) to continue actions?

I have no experience in dealing with these kind of stuff.


full member
Activity: 131
Merit: 100
December 12, 2013, 05:11:14 AM
No it's in the hands of the police now.  There isn't much else to do but wait from my end.
I am following things up now and again to make sure we're not forgotten but nothing worth updating has happened yet.
These things take time... :/
legendary
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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
December 11, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
I am still in for 10.68 Btc and am with whoever is proceeding with hearings.
hero member
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R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
December 11, 2013, 07:25:25 PM
What's been going on so far?
full member
Activity: 172
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TradeFortress has to pay his debitors
December 11, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
Have you guys given up on this already?

NO

Things go slow but we have not surrendered.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
December 11, 2013, 12:12:25 PM
Have you guys given up on this already?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
December 07, 2013, 12:35:45 PM
TF is ridiculous and there is more shit on him then Biff Tannen.
full member
Activity: 167
Merit: 100
December 06, 2013, 10:43:28 AM
Yes, but only if you had CD's. They have limited jurisdiction unless securities are involved. They also share info with other LE folks.

Contact this person
Moustakis, Philip <[email protected]>



I have contacted him as well 1-2 weeks ago and filed an official complaint on the SEC website. Please do let us know if you hear something back, thanks.
hero member
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Merit: 500
December 05, 2013, 11:18:21 PM
Yes, but only if you had CD's. They have limited jurisdiction unless securities are involved. They also share info with other LE folks.

Contact this person
Moustakis, Philip <[email protected]>

I did, unfortunately.  Tried to take my money out back when TF threw up the "this is a demo, none of it is real" wording, but unfortunately I had already renewed my CD by that point and he was going to charge me 5% of my principal to take my money out.  Which felt a bit ridiculous given that he was changing the rules part way through the term of the CD.  In retrospect, I should have argued more forcefully at that point, but it might not have done any good if I had anyway.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
December 05, 2013, 10:57:37 PM
Yes, but only if you had CD's. They have limited jurisdiction unless securities are involved. They also share info with other LE folks.

Contact this person
Moustakis, Philip <[email protected]>

hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
December 05, 2013, 10:24:33 PM
I spoke with a senior investigator from the SEC yesterday and they will have jurisdiction because CD's may be considered securities and hence fall under their jurisdiction.

TF may have screwed me out of some coins, but he will pay big time for his arrogance and hubris. I hope he enjoys jail.

His identity is now known. He can run, but he cant hide.

*waves*  Fellow American here.  Would it be helpful for someone else to contact the SEC about this? 
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
December 05, 2013, 10:21:40 PM
I spoke with a senior investigator from the SEC yesterday and they will have jurisdiction because CD's may be considered securities and hence fall under their jurisdiction.

TF may have screwed me out of some coins, but he will pay big time for his arrogance and hubris. I hope he enjoys jail.

His identity is now known. He can run, but he cant hide.

newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
December 05, 2013, 07:37:31 PM
I am starting to think that Chinese mobsters moving in is the biggest threat to both TF and the remaining coins right now :-/
full member
Activity: 131
Merit: 100
December 05, 2013, 05:27:51 AM
I've received a few reference numbers by PM, thanks guys.
All numbers received have been reported to the Western Australian Police.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
December 05, 2013, 12:17:06 AM
Now we know TF is 吴泽岳.
His brother is 吴乐水 who lives in BeiJing.
In china, We gathered some victims who had been stolen 1400+ bitcoins by TF.
We are ready to report TF and his brother to BeiJing police.
If TF or one of his alias is in china, we will find them.

We need some victims outside china join us, so BeiJing police might make it prime care.
If you live in BeiJing now, there is nothing better!

PM me if you are interested.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
December 04, 2013, 10:01:43 PM
Yes everyone counts. The more there are in, the more power we have. And since it doesn't cost anything until there is a refund it should not be a problem for anyone to join.
The haircut would be much better than the one TF was offering btw.
..so ..yes! Smiley

Should those with a single BTC at CL even bother with this?

Winning a judgement, and collecting on a judgement are very different things.
The chances of getting a payment when they don't have it is not very good, if all the wealth this guy has is now gone, you aren't going to get anything with a lawsuit other than a loss on the books for you to claim against taxes and a lot of suffering for everyone.

On the other hand, if TF is a thief and took the coins, then you may get them this way.  I just don't think that is the case here.  I think he was just overconfident and now is in over his head.

Disclosure: I have 1.08... on CL
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