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What date did you become lead dev of Monero?

I am not the lead-anything of Monero, you are quite clearly confused.

http://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/people

lol. sure - eject! Cheesy

Eject what? I don't get the reference.

Either way, your constant deflection only seems to serve the purpose of HitBTC's false volume, not the general good of those visiting CoinMarketCap.com and expecting to see statistics based on real data. Best you stop talking before you sully your reputation any further.
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What date did you become lead dev of Monero?

I am not the lead-anything of Monero, you are quite clearly confused.

http://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/people

lol. sure - eject! Cheesy
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What date did you become lead dev of Monero?

I am not the lead-anything of Monero, you are quite clearly confused.

http://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/people
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Hello newly registered HitBTC shill, and welcome to Bitcointalk!

The evidence presented is a general mounting body thereof. The main issue with the exchange you're shilling for is that the trade volume is clearly false, and users have demonstrated that orders around theirs get sold or bought by the fake volume bot, and yet their orders don't get met.

Given that CoinMarketCap relies heavily on data not being manipulated, and HitBTC's volume is so paltry, I can't see a reason not to remove them. Once they've built up an honourable reputation they can be readded.

Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone).

So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an 'abject fraud'

I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here.



(earlier today Bytecoin was higher but here are the 2 now)





Cut the hand waving, strawman bs. If those were in fact his intentions, none of it makes the bytecoin scam or hitbtc fraud any less true. So who cares what his motivation is. By any motivation the bytecoin scam and hitbtc fraud need to end. The worst he will do is save people from being scammed and defrauded. Would you rather that happen to people because you percieve his motivation as being less than altruistic?

I have no idea whether Bytecoin or HitBTC is a scam or not, so I can't comment on whether removing it would be good or not.

Fluffy has a reputation for accusing people of scams, especially anything in competition to his project, the claims of some of which are patently spurious.  

On that basis, in the case that Bytecoin and/or HitBTC is not a scam, motivation for Fluffy's accusation is relevant, and I am providing the information for people here to make a better call.

Dark/Dash = instamine scam

bytecoin = premine scam

Those are facts that have been proven. No amount of denial or fallacious argumentation will undo that. Hitbtc remains to be seen without ambiguity.

Sure buddy.  Good luck proving Dash is a fraud to a judge, you will get laughed out the door.  I don't know anything about Bytecoin apart from according to Monero it is another "xxx scam" (which has zero credibility at this stage)
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Fluffy has a reputation for accusing people of scams, especially anything in competition to his project, the claims of some of which are patently spurious.

These are from a year ago, Monero had just launched:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6373445 - calling out MaidSafe and Larimer being an idiot

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6412521 - calling out DotsforBits

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6418858 - calling out TagPesa and Seedcoin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6457221 - calling out BitcoinBourse and associated scams

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6456919 - more calling out Seedcoin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6441866 - calling out BitNews

I assume I am in competition with all of those as well?

I don't know, I would assume based on your reputation that this was prior to your Monero engagement and that in some way they were competing with whatever project your were involved with at that time such as trying to raise USD200,000 from Vertcoin investors for a centrally managed Vertcoin payment site.

What date did you become lead dev of Monero?
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Fluffy has a reputation for accusing people of scams, especially anything in competition to his project, the claims of some of which are patently spurious.

These are from a year ago, Monero had just launched:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6373445 - calling out MaidSafe and Larimer being an idiot

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6412521 - calling out DotsforBits

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6418858 - calling out TagPesa and Seedcoin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6457221 - calling out BitcoinBourse and associated scams

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6456919 - more calling out Seedcoin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6441866 - calling out BitNews

I assume I am in competition with all of those as well?
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Hello newly registered HitBTC shill, and welcome to Bitcointalk!

The evidence presented is a general mounting body thereof. The main issue with the exchange you're shilling for is that the trade volume is clearly false, and users have demonstrated that orders around theirs get sold or bought by the fake volume bot, and yet their orders don't get met.

Given that CoinMarketCap relies heavily on data not being manipulated, and HitBTC's volume is so paltry, I can't see a reason not to remove them. Once they've built up an honourable reputation they can be readded.

Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone).

So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an 'abject fraud'

I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here.



(earlier today Bytecoin was higher but here are the 2 now)





Cut the hand waving, strawman bs. If those were in fact his intentions, none of it makes the bytecoin scam or hitbtc fraud any less true. So who cares what his motivation is. By any motivation the bytecoin scam and hitbtc fraud need to end. The worst he will do is save people from being scammed and defrauded. Would you rather that happen to people because you percieve his motivation as being less than altruistic?

I have no idea whether Bytecoin or HitBTC is a scam or not, so I can't comment on whether removing it would be good or not.

Fluffy has a reputation for accusing people of scams, especially anything in competition to his project, the claims of some of which are patently spurious.  

On that basis, in the case that Bytecoin and/or HitBTC is not a scam, motivation for Fluffy's accusation is relevant, and I am providing the information for people here to make a better call.
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Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone).

So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an 'abject fraud'

I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here.

The original and comprehensive complaint wasn't from me: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11032474

As I mentioned in the Monero thread, if it incorrectly skews Monero's trade volume, it is doubly important to me that it is removed.

Additionally, as Bytecoin is traded on two other exchanges, the removal of HitBTC will have no effect on its valuation and market capitalisation, it will *only* affect its trade volume (and will show reality instead of a false, inflated value).

OK, earlier today you accused the Dash dev Evan Duffield of "mining 15% with his buddies in the first few hours" and when I asked for proof you didn't have any..

Now you are saying that you know that HitBTC's volume is fake so it should be delisted (which anyone can see benefits Monero at this precise time with it's main competitor having 90% of it's volume disappear from CoinMarketCap), but how do you know that the HitBTC volume is fake?
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Hi Gliss,

Seeing as 13 of the top 20 assets are on the Nxt platform, can we have an option to dsiplay the prices on the asset page in NXT? > http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

I have an idea of what the asset prices are in my head in NXT but I have to convert from BTC (finding the current rate) to see if the prices have change much. It is very cumbersome and not very useful.

Thanks  Grin



Bump  Grin
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Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone).

So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an 'abject fraud'

I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here.

The original and comprehensive complaint wasn't from me: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11032474

As I mentioned in the Monero thread, if it incorrectly skews Monero's trade volume, it is doubly important to me that it is removed.

Additionally, as Bytecoin is traded on two other exchanges, the removal of HitBTC will have no effect on its valuation and market capitalisation, it will *only* affect its trade volume (and will show reality instead of a false, inflated value).
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-snip-

Hello newly registered HitBTC shill, and welcome to Bitcointalk!

The evidence presented is a general mounting body thereof. The main issue with the exchange you're shilling for is that the trade volume is clearly false, and users have demonstrated that orders around theirs get sold or bought by the fake volume bot, and yet their orders don't get met.

Given that CoinMarketCap relies heavily on data not being manipulated, and HitBTC's volume is so paltry, I can't see a reason not to remove them. Once they've built up an honourable reputation they can be readded.

Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone).

So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an 'abject fraud'

I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here.



(earlier today Bytecoin was higher but here are the 2 now)


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-snip-

Hello newly registered HitBTC shill, and welcome to Bitcointalk!

The evidence presented is a general mounting body thereof. The main issue with the exchange you're shilling for is that the trade volume is clearly false, and users have demonstrated that orders around theirs get sold or bought by the fake volume bot, and yet their orders don't get met.

Given that CoinMarketCap relies heavily on data not being manipulated, and HitBTC's volume is so paltry, I can't see a reason not to remove them. Once they've built up an honourable reputation they can be readded.
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The "evidence" against HitBTC is absurd.

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Current as of March 20, 2015 (a month ago): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-with-hitbtc-984188

User confirms in the thread that the problem is solved.

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This is the same user with two threads. User mentions he withdrawn his funds with Bitcoin, not fiat. Looks like fiat problems, not scam.

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Read the thread. User mentions that actually he wasn't scammed.

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Comments at the end of the thread cover the comment by HitBTC in media and also mentions from users that everything has been resolved.

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It's a question, not a report on scamming.
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Why is Ripple still being listed? It has nothing to do with decentralized cryptocurrencies. It has frozen $1 million in user funds, its CEO is in bed with the establishment, and he has publicly bashed Bitcoin every chance he got.

Is Ripple paying to be listed in coinmarketcap?

And Stellar is basically the same thing. One good day they even decided to shut down the entire network (proving it wasn't decentralized at all) to fix a bug.

These scamcoins are hurting the ecosystem. You should be ashamed of listing them.
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We reached out to them and they said they had resolved most of those issues.   If you find any more recent evidence of scamming, please let me know.

Current as of January, 2015: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hitbtc-market-making-scam-they-are-not-paying-out-857344

Current as of March 20, 2015 (a month ago): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-with-hitbtc-984188

Current as of January 31, 2015: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hitbtc-troubles-935305

Current as of January, 2015: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hitbtccom-locking-in-customer-funds-911841

Current as of March 13, 2015: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2yx2z1/scammed_on_hitbtc/

Current as of February 15, 2015: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vzhvj/hitbtc_exchange_no_withdrawal_possible_funds_not/

Current as of January 29, 2015: http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/2u29a3/hitbtc_anyone_using_it_request_for_review/

Current as of January, 2015: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/just-got-all-my-funds-out-of-hitbtccom-this-my-goodbye-911995

Negative trust from January not removed, additional negative trust added on March 12, 2015: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=194708

There is ample, recent evidence that the volumes are inflated and outrightly false. They're flagged as scammers on this forum.

I find it utterly absurd that you thought you'd reach out to them and they'd say anything besides insisting that there was no problem. How did you imagine that conversation going down?

Reductio ad absurdum: "Oh haaaai scammers, we herd u mite b scammin?" "O NO U CAUGHT US SORRY GUIZE"
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Thanks for the links, removed it from the listing for now.



You have to edit your form, because -believe it or not- they changed their name  Wink

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Please provide a URL that shows the total supply of coins in real time.
Required. For example, Darkcoin's total supply of coins can be found at:
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/api.dws?q=totalcoins

--> http://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/api.dws?q=totalcoins

Updated Smiley

Gliss, your removal of HitBTC lasted like a week before you added them back. You have a mountain of evidence that nobody in this thread has contradicted. How much are they paying you to keep them there?

No wonder your site is getting slammed on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33fubn/ripple_freezes_1m_in_user_funds_time_to_remove_it/

Time to move to CoinGecko, at least they don't actively support scammers.

We reached out to them and they said they had resolved most of those issues.   If you find any more recent evidence of scamming, please let me know.
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Thanks for the links, removed it from the listing for now.



You have to edit your form, because -believe it or not- they changed their name  Wink

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Please provide a URL that shows the total supply of coins in real time.
Required. For example, Darkcoin's total supply of coins can be found at:
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/api.dws?q=totalcoins

--> http://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/api.dws?q=totalcoins

Updated Smiley

Gliss, your removal of HitBTC lasted like a week before you added them back. You have a mountain of evidence that nobody in this thread has contradicted. How much are they paying you to keep them there?

No wonder your site is getting slammed on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33fubn/ripple_freezes_1m_in_user_funds_time_to_remove_it/

Time to move to CoinGecko, at least they don't actively support scammers.
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Gliss

When ever you have some time could you please update the info on alcurex exchange?
https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/index


Thank you!

Hey gliss. please update alcurex exchange coin's listening

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/alcurex/
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