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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

I won't deny the fact that manipulation does occur in crypto market because we have all seen some pump and dump coins.
The thing is, it requires a higher liquidity to manipulate cryptocurrencies and so whales decide to target coins which have a lower marktecap.
It becomes easier to them to manipulate the price and this is reason why we haven't seen large cap coins being manipulated.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

The larger the capitalization, the more difficult it is to manipulate, but not impossible . Even stock markets with capitalizations in the hundreds of trillions of dollars are accused of manipulation, let alone a small market like cryptocurrencies. In short , when it comes to financial markets, manipulation is almost a part of the market, not just the cryptocurrency market . But the cryptocurrency market is more susceptible to manipulation because its capitalization is relatively small compared to other markets , and importantly , there is very little regulation and no legal body to govern it . So manipulation happens more than any other market .

There are many forces that manipulate the market , not just whales, and there are also many different ways to manipulate the market .

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All cryptocurrencies can really be manipulated by any whale. Especially when he knows that he has large holdings of a crypto asset in this field of the crypto space. That's why there is often a rugpull with others, right? But with others who really have many investors with large holdings, I think that's what's difficult to manipulate, in my opinion.

Because if the community holders of a coin are established, even if we say there are whales there, there are for sure those waiting to buy and sell a whale when that happens.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on December 01, 2024, 07:16:59 AM

Those coins only with the small caps reason why if you want to make an investment with the altcoins you must need to check tokens contract address to know if there's a large scale of whales holding the coins and possible rug might happen or still ideal to invest.

It is almost always the case with new projects that there are only a handful of addresses that have significantly more coins than all the others. One reason for this is that newly launched projects hold back coins for the “foundation” in order to be able to pay salaries, for example. Team members also often receive a larger number of coins, but usually with an unlocking schedule so that they do not immediately throw the coins onto the market.

This alone is not enough to determine whether a project represents a risk for an investment or not.

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Those coins only with the small caps reason why if you want to make an investment with the altcoins you must need to check tokens contract address to know if there's a large scale of whales holding the coins and possible rug might happen or still ideal to invest. Also invest at your own risk many people trying to get tons of altcoins because they want to become rich easily with the help of alts. Bitcoin has a large cap so its too hard to them to make a manipulation on it.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 30, 2024, 09:31:53 AM

It's true that whales can manipulate the crypto market but it's mostly the altcoins that are easily manipulate because liquidity can be forced in and out just to kick out a lot of retail traders and investors off the market. High value coins like Bitcoin can also have a little price shift when the big player want to shift the market but it doesn't show so much significant effect the way it can be on altcoins.

Coin manipulation is something very possible from whales or the big player of the market because they want newbie traders to panicked and sell off their holdings, since they feels like toping their holdings on a fast track and it happens so quickly when they decided to manipulate the market. Be it Bitcoin or altcoin but it's mostly swings on altcoin than bitcoin just as you said, though the smart traders or investor increases their bags when there is a market shifts.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

Altcoins are indeed much easier to manipulate by whales because they can liquidate retail traders in and out of the market so quickly that a coin can go up or down. Bitcoin or ETH which has a high value can also be manipulated when they try to play the market but does not show a big effect like in altocin. It's the same as when we talk about the effects of the US presidential election like yesterday where the price of bitcoin could soar even though overall it was not determined by a single event. That's why smart investors will see the moment to make money in the altcoin market because in conditions of manipulation it will cause a high price increase so they will sell all altcoins to make maximum profit.

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depends on the capital.

in meme coin, whales manipulation are running rampant, in regulated exchange, I think it's still unclear whether there exist manipulation or not.
but sometime I just see some unnatural chart where the price just going up right off the bat without any plausible reason so I think that's manipulation as well.

the hardest coin to manipulate I think is bitcoin, you need billions, but for alts with lower market cap and trading volume, i guess even small whale can move the market.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market.

We've been telling this not recently but for several years already.

Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

Whale manipulation can be said that they can move the entire market. But you'll also get the benefits from them if ever they manipulate the market through good news and people are coping with the demand. If you ever want to see most of these manipulations, they're mostly happening into the newly launched coins and as well as new memecoins in the market.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 30, 2024, 11:49:31 AM

Of course, human will always try their possible best to see how they can manipulate the market so that they can ride over others due to greed. A coin with a small market cap is very easy to manipulate the price and that is why you need to stay away from them. Assuming whales can manipulate the world they would, just like they love to manipulate most altcoins prices. Only bitcoin gives them no chance to mess around with the price, because if you try, it will only be for a short time and you might run at loss if you want to try harder, because a lot of people invested in it.

Sometimes I don’t think this manipulation is done out of greed it is just as it will be, once someone holds a large chunk of the supply and he is market mover anything they do even genuinely is definitely going to be considered as manipulation is it selling off their holdings because they want to sincerely, many will say they used others as exit liquidity. Nonetheless in the world of crypto the whales of mostly Altcoins and to be precise Memecoins or similar volatile coins actually do hodl the large chunk of the coin just to be in control of that assets, this is what I call bad manipulation. To avoid losses the best thing is to stay away this kind of market and coins, people aren’t saying that bitcoin is not market manipulative but the volume needed for that isn’t just worth it

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It's rampant in the altcoins market, becaus if there’s news that Bitcoin’s price can be manipulated, it’s even more likely in the altcoin market. Key factors to watch out for when detecting altcoins prone to manipulation include low market cap and lack of liquidity. If you notice these, be cautious, most of the supply could be controlled by a small group of people who can easily manipulate the price for their own benefit.

Also, new altcoins in the market are especially vulnerable to manipulation. During their early stages, there’s often a lot of hype and speculation, which can lead to significant price swings. So, always do your research and stay alert when dealing with these types of coins.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

Manipulation can come from those who are having enough volume of altcoin for example, they bought newly launched coin at 30-40 percent of there total supply, these people can easily manipulate the price immediately when listed and started trading and it happens to other coin including ethereum and BNB or any other know coin out there.

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Yes. Anyone who owns significant amounts of an asset can manipulate the market. Doesnt matter if we are talking about Bitcoin, the stock exchange, or real estate prices. The big players can shake things up just by tradin themselves or even hinting about what they might do. Its true across the board, crypto included. Not saying its right just how things tend to go when someone has enough skins in the game. They make waves whether they mean to or not and same as anywhere theres money movíng around.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

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Market manipulation exist in every financial market, it's not juts in crypto world but everywhere around the markets that you know is liquid where money can goes and comes in. The thing is, regulation is what makes other market not obvious. This is why whales do what they like in the crypto market, they do what they like and do when they want, this is why you often see coins doesn't move the way you expected them even after doing your own analysis.

What you should also put in consideration is that whales manipulation isn't something of today, it's has been in existence for long time and they will do as they like but what you should do is to avoid them. How do you do that, trade coin pairs that are doesn't have low market cap, coins with huge market cap and huge trading volume are difficult to manipulate especially coins like Bitcoin, you can't have your ways through any of the pairs unless you are Blackrock or Satoshi itself.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

Market manipulation has been going on for a while and it happens mostly to altcoins. Even altcoins that have big market caps can be manipulated when the bunk of it is in the hands of whales that can easily manipulate the coins in their favour. When coins are evenly distributed between different holders, it becomes very hard for such coins to be manipulated as the stronger percentage will be in the hands of the more people holding the coins. Another way coins can be manipulated is through news, that is a fundamental part of the market but it plays a very substantial role in the market to decide how coins price moves up and down.

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Of course, human will always try their possible best to see how they can manipulate the market so that they can ride over others due to greed. A coin with a small market cap is very easy to manipulate the price and that is why you need to stay away from them. Assuming whales can manipulate the world they would, just like they love to manipulate most altcoins prices. Only bitcoin gives them no chance to mess around with the price, because if you try, it will only be for a short time and you might run at loss if you want to try harder, because a lot of people invested in it.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

All markets have whales and they have main interests in manipulate markets for getting profit. Cryptocurrency market is smaller than many traditional market, and Bitcoin dominates this market. If you want to talk about manipulation with altcoin market, it is more easily than with Bitcoin market, because altcoins are centralized and have smaller market caps than Bitcoin.

Quote from: Botnake on November 30, 2024, 07:27:19 AM

In fact the government have already active on it with this initiative.

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In the past, there are some reports against Centralized exchanges and their shady operations with Wash Trading Volume.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

Is market manipulation is still real on crypto? I mean maybe on low market caps coin this is possible but on crypto like Bitcoin and other top cryptocurrencies it’s impossible to manipulate the price now unless you are a billionaire.

News manipulation is possible to create FUD or hype but I doubt price manipulation through trading is still happening on most of the cryptocurrency with huge marketcap.

Crypto is just volatile due to the nature of crypto traders to frequently trade whenever there’s a trend in the market.

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Quote from: CypherMonk on November 30, 2024, 07:21:05 AM

Recently, it's become a concern that crypto whales can manipulate the market. Does this apply to altcoins only, or can these crypto whales manipulate all coins, including those with a higher market cap?

Whales who have a lot of capital to enter any market will indeed find it easier to do so at times like these, but you don't need to worry about it if you yourself don't have more coins that you currently hold. Because whales are also humans who continue to hunt for profits in the market at certain moments so that small people can still take advantage of the moment if the whales really want to make the market experience a price correction in most coins. I'm not too worried about the current conditions because big companies are still quite happy to buy Bitcoin and it could also have an effect on some other altcoins in the market later this year.

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It's true that whales can manipulate the crypto market but it's mostly the altcoins that are easily manipulate because liquidity can be forced in and out just to kick out a lot of retail traders and investors off the market. High value coins like Bitcoin can also have a little price shift when the big player want to shift the market but it doesn't show so much significant effect the way it can be on altcoins.

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