System (Coinsaga)
Jul 14, 2022, 20:06 GMT+2
(19:46:55) *** Nickolas Ambrose joined the chat ***
(19:46:55) Nickolas Ambrose: Hello. Has the team responded with a resolution yet?
(19:47:31) Nickolas Ambrose: Day 14 Patrick
(19:47:34) Patrick: Hello Nickolas, hope you're doing well.
(19:47:54) Nickolas Ambrose: I am okay. Thanks. Hope the same for you as well.
(19:48:23) Patrick: Thank you. Allow me a moment as I check this for you.
(19:48:31) Nickolas Ambrose: Thanks
(19:50:55) Patrick: Thank you Nickolas. I am totally sorry, but the tech team has not been able to find a solution to the issue with your account yet.
(19:51:40) Patrick: What we can do now and this is what we have been suggesting you, is to send you a manual withdrawal, for this we just need to verify a few documents. But I understand that you don't want to provide them, am I right?
(19:51:44) Nickolas Ambrose: The solution is very simple. Return.my 1 LTC and close the account.
(19:52:45) Patrick: It is simple, Nickolas. We are happy to send you the money back, but the rules are that you need to go through KYC first.
(19:52:53) Nickolas Ambrose: I have not placed any wagers. I do not wish to identify. Your live chat agent wouldn't even tell me the country of which she was operating In. Nina. But I'm supposed to send over KYC documents and fully identify? Thats not right Patrick.
(19:53:23) Nickolas Ambrose: It's not your money though Patrick. It's still mine. I have not made any wagers with your site.
(19:53:25) Patrick: We operate under Curacao license, Nickolas, if that solves your doubt
(19:54:13) Nickolas Ambrose: I know curacao license very well. And they can be purchased from.a master licensee for around 25K euros. I could purchase one right now and have it by the end of the day.
(19:54:18) Patrick: May I ask you your country of residence, Nickolas?
(19:55:17) Nickolas Ambrose: Let's say I reveal my residence and then you say it's on the list of restricted countries. Then what? That entitles you to keep my funds despite not having place d any wagers?
(19:56:11) Nickolas Ambrose: No I don't believe that's the laws at all. If anything that would entitle you to return my unwagered funds and close the account directly afterwards.
(19:56:57) Patrick: I'm sorry and I fully understand your frustration, Sir. Actually we can do that, we just need the documentations as per license regulations.
(19:57:11) Patrick: As we need to do a manual withdrawal.
(19:57:23) Nickolas Ambrose: I asked you a specific question and you failed to answer it.
(19:57:50) Nickolas Ambrose: Let's say I'm.from north Korea. Then what would your response be?
(19:58:01) Patrick: Sorry, I believe I've answered the question
(19:59:10) Nickolas Ambrose: Maybe I missed it then. I'll review once more.
(19:59:51) Nickolas Ambrose: When you say "actually we can do that" what exactly were you replying to.
(20:00:37) Nickolas Ambrose: Actually you can refund my litecoin. Or actually you can keep it as your own?
(20:01:32) Patrick: ah, what I mean is that we are happy to send the funds back
(20:01:40) Nickolas Ambrose: My name is Kumar Jagdeep and I'm an Indian national residing in Australia. now what?
(20:02:26) Nickolas Ambrose: And you are located?
(20:02:49) Nickolas Ambrose: In Kiev ukraine?
(20:02:50) Patrick: I understand, please send us a crypto wallet address and your ID via e-mail, we will proceed with the manual withdrawal as soon as possible.
(20:02:58) Patrick: We are located in Curacao, Sir.
(20:04:07) Nickolas Ambrose: The license is from curacao but the operation is not. But okay I'll go along with it. I'll send the information via email could you provide your email address?
(20:05:22) Patrick: Sure, please send them to
[email protected](20:05:57) Nickolas Ambrose: Thank you.
This was two days ago. Since then they have not sent anything and they have back tracked off of this. This was as close as I got to a refund but of course they never followed through with their end. The website is 100% scam. Igamingplatform.com is the operator of coinsaga. I have reported them to zendesk whom is their ticketing software and livechat provider. I will next report them to coinspaid whom is their payment processor. I will then find their hosting provider and report them for violating their terms of use. Additionally I have a pending complaint with AskGamblers and also this thread to document their fraud and theft of user funds. I should not have to go to these lengths but for the sake of the community I will.