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Topic: Coins.game CONFISCATING all my winnings (268mbtc) (Read 874 times)

newbie
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a few days ago the VIP manager wrote to me and asked if I wanted to make a deposit.
I said no because they were starting to deceive players and gave him a link to this topic.
They know and see everything, but they don’t care, I think it’s just a scam. and sad oblivion awaits them.
stupid admin, could have been a cool casino but became crap.
It’s good that we have Bitcoin Talk, a unique place.
newbie
Activity: 16
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While we would like to provide evidence, doing so would expose our investigative methods and potentially enable individuals to bypass our system.

You can send your proofs to a trusted member to avoid any future problems. As it is now, it seems that you simply confiscated user funds which is not acceptaple.

To me, user bets are normal and he deserves to paid every penny.

Bad idea. It will only be a burden for that trusted member to verify the claim, not to mention they probably doesn't have a way to verify it. This is a sport-related bets, thus CasinoGuru are quite unlikely to be willing to facilitate a mediation. I've taken a peek and see that Coins is on AskGamblers.

Gekke, I am sure you already know how to raise a complaint on their platform.

Yes, already submitted a complaint.
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Can you send me your lawyer's information privately?

full member
Activity: 498
Merit: 101
My Curacao lawyer has taken on the case today and he said he rates the chance of success very high. We agreed a percentage on a no cure, no pay deal so if it does not work I will at least not suffer more damage than I have already done. It could ofcourse take several months up to a year, but I will report any updates here.

I know that lawyer, he is haunting on these casino's since 2018 but I want to inform you also that this laywer does not have any knowledge at all about gambling.
For me, there is no doubt that you won your money fair, but without legal action this casino does not pay. Hope you will have some luck with this laywer which is for sure SBGOK.

No, it's not. It is actually a different lawyer. But I will not share his name in public.
jr. member
Activity: 131
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My Curacao lawyer has taken on the case today and he said he rates the chance of success very high. We agreed a percentage on a no cure, no pay deal so if it does not work I will at least not suffer more damage than I have already done. It could ofcourse take several months up to a year, but I will report any updates here.

I know that lawyer, he is haunting on these casino's since 2018 but I want to inform you also that this laywer does not have any knowledge at all about gambling.
For me, there is no doubt that you won your money fair, but without legal action this casino does not pay. Hope you will have some luck with this laywer which is for sure SBGOK.
full member
Activity: 498
Merit: 101
My Curacao lawyer has taken on the case today and he said he rates the chance of success very high. We agreed a percentage on a no cure, no pay deal so if it does not work I will at least not suffer more damage than I have already done. It could ofcourse take several months up to a year, but I will report any updates here.
copper member
Activity: 2128
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They will not give an explanation, that is the whole problem. Confiscation without a reason is a scam.

I understand your position but I don't think it makes much difference whether I support the flag now or next week, I just wouldn't want to rush into it. I just learned about it now. I hadn't read your thread before today. So I'm just going to wait a bit and see what other people say also.
I do not think they will specify a reason for locking the fund. But the answer which a gambling site shares almost the same info that has been shared on the OP. So, I think the answer you may get on the OP, and let's see if they share any specified reason.
full member
Activity: 498
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After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

I’m really interested to read the result on this interesting investigation. I was planning to do the same since I’m intrigued how the OP have problem on multiple casino that always related to sportsbook. My curiosity is not in a negative way but to knew what’s really the reason why they always confiscate the winnings while there’s no clear reason on their action that later on to overturning the result.

I just hope that you will mention that the OP have similar problem in other casino when you conduct the investigation to each casino involved to make the result fair and not bias to the fact that OP has an active issue.

Overall, You are doing an awesome job especially if this is for free. Keep it up!

Wow....an investigation against me? That is crazy. First of all, it would be against the rules of sportsbooks to give out my personal data to strangers, so I would be highly surprised if they do that.
Second of all, do you guys realize that I have been a member here for almost 5 years and I have had 5 scam accusations in this time.....it does not take a rocket scientist to know that I have not played with 5 books in this time and had 5 times problems. I already told I have used about 100 books in these 5 years and had problems with just 5. And ofcourse you won't see me opening topics about the 95 books where all went fine because people just don't do that.
And then third and most importantly: ALL of the scam accusations I opened in the past have been solved with the books paying me in full. Apart from one, Coinplay.
So what more proof do you need that I am on the right side? A book confiscating winnings and then reversing their decision....you must be really in the right as a player to get that done.

I can save you the time of your investigation. It's very very simple. I am just a good bettor and in the long term I win more than I lose. Nothing fraudulent about that, and 95 out of the 100 books just limit your stakes and pay you out (which is how it should be). But the scam ones just confiscate it all.
Wow, did I really just (have to) defend myself? This is getting crazier by the day....

After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

It's very interesting that you will have contact with the sportsbooks I had problems with in the past, knowing that THEY SOLVED THE CASE WITH ME.
BC.game, Owl.games, Buff.bet and Wintomato.com......very interesting to hear what they will say about what I did "wrong". And how they explain why they still decided to reverse their decision and pay me out eventually. The only one that did not solve the case with me was Coinplay.com. Good luck contacting them as they are completely unresponsive and don't care about anything.
copper member
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After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

I’m really interested to read the result on this interesting investigation. I was planning to do the same since I’m intrigued how the OP have problem on multiple casino that always related to sportsbook. My curiosity is not in a negative way but to knew what’s really the reason why they always confiscate the winnings while there’s no clear reason on their action that later on to overturning the result.

I just hope that you will mention that the OP have similar problem in other casino when you conduct the investigation to each casino involved to make the result fair and not bias to the fact that OP has an active issue.

Overall, You are doing an awesome job especially if this is for free. Keep it up!
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1398
Yes, I'm an asshole
After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.

I initially wanted to send their representative a PM, another invitation to revisit this case and see whether to support or oppose the flag based on their reaction and/or development of the case after the PM. But I will refrain to do so, or anything at all, until I hear more from you about this. Please keep us updated.
legendary
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
I am observing your case since Jan 20th after I responded to you. In the mean time one of the forum member requested me to have an investigation about you and after reading the points he made, I was interested to spend my time in it. I am in contact with some of the gambling platforms you had problems in the past. One of them already responded the inquiry I had from them. But I need a few more response before I make a report about my investigation. So, I am not going to make a conclusion yet.

However, I will request forum members not to response the flag yet. Once I have my full report then I will publish it [keeping the information hidden like, players name, sportsbook name so that it does not conflict with the legal things].

I hope I handled this post good enough that it does not go against OP or against any sportsbook who had problem with him so far.
legendary
Activity: 1372
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They will not give an explanation, that is the whole problem. Confiscation without a reason is a scam.

I understand your position but I don't think it makes much difference whether I support the flag now or next week, I just wouldn't want to rush into it. I just learned about it now. I hadn't read your thread before today. So I'm just going to wait a bit and see what other people say also.
full member
Activity: 498
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I just read the thread because I have seen the request for support to the flag created by GekkeBelg against the casino, and I would just like a representative of the casino to give his version before deciding. It sounds quite plausible to me, a casino that gives you all the facilities to deposit but when it comes to withdraw an important amount everything is problems. We have seen that style of behavior countless times, which is unethical to say the least if not outright scam.

I will wait for now.

They will not give an explanation, that is the whole problem. Confiscation without a reason is a scam.
legendary
Activity: 1372
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I just read the thread because I have seen the request for support to the flag created by GekkeBelg against the casino, and I would just like a representative of the casino to give his version before deciding. It sounds quite plausible to me, a casino that gives you all the facilities to deposit but when it comes to withdraw an important amount everything is problems. We have seen that style of behavior countless times, which is unethical to say the least if not outright scam.

I will wait for now.
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I do not think you have been scammed. If you have been scammed then the site would lock all of your funds. Hence I think you have broken any of their rules and that's why they have locked the winning for breaking the rules.
legendary
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After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world.

So you didn't get any explanation from them about the final status of your case?


You have cheated our casino. Upon thorough investigation, we discovered that this user had manipulated the system, leading us to confiscate their winnings. It's important to note that if our intentions were dishonest, we could have rejected the KYC process. However, we are committed to transparency and have no intention of seizing funds from our users. While we would like to provide evidence, doing so would expose our investigative methods and potentially enable individuals to bypass our system.

I guess we can't get more information about how the user @GekkeBelg cheated the casino. There don't have to be many details even basic info, but it doesn't look as transparent as you claim. At the very least, they should give a deadline for solving this case, I assume you already know whether rejection is the final answer.
full member
Activity: 498
Merit: 101
After more than 3 weeks of waiting, there is still zero solution. Also on Casinu Guru you can read several comparable complaints with sports betting winnings confiscated, from people all over the world. My case is not alone. Whenever you win in sports, Coins.game confiscate your winnings and simply call it "fraud" even if you have not violated any specific terms. An absolute scam and I feel the need to warn others for this.
So a flag has been created and can be supported here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3280

And, as a last resort I will submit my case to a Curacao lawyer who works on a no-cure-no-pay basis and had several successes in court in the past. Will keep you update about that ofcourse.
hero member
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The Askgamblers complaint was closed as unresolved since they did not even care to respond to Askgamblers anymore: https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/coins-game-casino-taking-extremely-long-to-verify-account

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Let's give this a little bit more time? From time to time a representative will reach the arbitrator to ask for a case to be reopened. Given BitcoinGirl.Club has sent Denis Coins a PM reinviting him to address this case in mode details, I'm refraining from sending another PM to avoid redundancies. I believe if they have a good faith in resolving this, they'll respond to BGC's PM.

I will give it a bit more time, but the first signs are not good.

This is what I’m afraid to happened on your case. They decided to don’t give AF on your case after providing one sided remarks while being inactive here. I already stop playing on their casino and I will consider this case as warning for me to don’t pursue further on playing with them.

The chance for them to overturn their decision like Bc.game did is very slim since they don’t invest much time and money here to build their trust. This is the sad reality of being an online player with +balance.
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GekkeBelg, after the issue with the casino in the subject is resolved I advise you to be more careful with the casino you want to use in the future since this is not the first time you'll experience almost the same issue or try to modify the strategy of gambling which I think could also be the reason why some of this casinos held your withdrawal.
Having said that, if the issue is not solved by Askgamblers after the complaint is reopened you can try CasinoGuru and also write negative feedback on TrustPilot.
legendary
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I will give it a bit more time, but the first signs are not good.

I admire your patience though, you will have to wait for another 2 days according to the timer on askgamblers,



However, it seems the owner or the official representative to this forum hasn't log in for a while and it looks like for them this is already a close book.

That case in AskGamblers was closed before with "unresolved" as their verdict, it was reopened as per OP's request. That two days were already an "extra time". And if they really consider this a closed, I really hope they'll reconsider, because it doesn't look good on them with several questions here being unanswered and AG's thread unattended.
hero member
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The Askgamblers complaint was closed as unresolved since they did not even care to respond to Askgamblers anymore: https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/coins-game-casino-taking-extremely-long-to-verify-account

[...]

Let's give this a little bit more time? From time to time a representative will reach the arbitrator to ask for a case to be reopened. Given BitcoinGirl.Club has sent Denis Coins a PM reinviting him to address this case in mode details, I'm refraining from sending another PM to avoid redundancies. I believe if they have a good faith in resolving this, they'll respond to BGC's PM.

I will give it a bit more time, but the first signs are not good.

I admire your patience though, you will have to wait for another 2 days according to the timer on askgamblers,



However, it seems the owner or the official representative to this forum hasn't log in for a while and it looks like for them this is already a close book.
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