Topic: Community Miner Design Discussion - page 2. (Read 34218 times)
Between my own, and yours, and stuff I've picked up from others, I have about 50 chassis between S1, S3 and S5 to play with.
Actually you know what, I went and got this mixed up with a different project so the specifics of my "there's been no communication" paragraph back there is inaccurate.
But the general gist is still true - I haven't heard anything out of Kilo in a while.
I'm still working on stuff, and he'll end up benefiting from that work because I was paid up front for the work. Hopefully at least one of the two ASIC manufacturers I have chips from (and actually someone else is talking to me about design which might bring a third chip into light, who knows if he'll have any luck there) will deal and I can round up enough money to get a project off the ground. It'd be pretty sweet to have an S1-refit board prototyped before the end of the year, at which point I could probably raise a bunch of money for manufacture.
Well at least you have a nice pile of my old s1's and 3's to use their frames and heatsinks for proto'ing and sales once done But the general gist is still true - I haven't heard anything out of Kilo in a while.
I'm still working on stuff, and he'll end up benefiting from that work because I was paid up front for the work. Hopefully at least one of the two ASIC manufacturers I have chips from (and actually someone else is talking to me about design which might bring a third chip into light, who knows if he'll have any luck there) will deal and I can round up enough money to get a project off the ground. It'd be pretty sweet to have an S1-refit board prototyped before the end of the year, at which point I could probably raise a bunch of money for manufacture.
Actually you know what, I went and got this mixed up with a different project so the specifics of my "there's been no communication" paragraph back there is inaccurate.
But the general gist is still true - I haven't heard anything out of Kilo in a while.
I'm still working on stuff, and he'll end up benefiting from that work because I was paid up front for the work. Hopefully at least one of the two ASIC manufacturers I have chips from (and actually someone else is talking to me about design which might bring a third chip into light, who knows if he'll have any luck there) will deal and I can round up enough money to get a project off the ground. It'd be pretty sweet to have an S1-refit board prototyped before the end of the year, at which point I could probably raise a bunch of money for manufacture.
But the general gist is still true - I haven't heard anything out of Kilo in a while.
I'm still working on stuff, and he'll end up benefiting from that work because I was paid up front for the work. Hopefully at least one of the two ASIC manufacturers I have chips from (and actually someone else is talking to me about design which might bring a third chip into light, who knows if he'll have any luck there) will deal and I can round up enough money to get a project off the ground. It'd be pretty sweet to have an S1-refit board prototyped before the end of the year, at which point I could probably raise a bunch of money for manufacture.
Like I said at the start, it wasn't my project; I was to be hired for design work. As of now the first milestone that I know of is about two months behind schedule and I've had about three minutes of communication with the contact since the first week of August so I really don't know what's going on, if it's still moving or if I'm just out of the communication loop.
Lack of communication is the worst.My bet is there was nothing to communicate............"Hey we ain't gettin any chips" woulda been nice,but then sidehack would have stopped ALL work on them or something & then it all woulda been a waste.
Like I said at the start, it wasn't my project; I was to be hired for design work. As of now the first milestone that I know of is about two months behind schedule and I've had about three minutes of communication with the contact since the first week of August so I really don't know what's going on, if it's still moving or if I'm just out of the communication loop.
Lack of communication is the worst.
Like I said at the start, it wasn't my project; I was to be hired for design work. As of now the first milestone that I know of is about two months behind schedule and I've had about three minutes of communication with the contact since the first week of August so I really don't know what's going on, if it's still moving or if I'm just out of the communication loop.
I'm still working on my own stuff, and a few things might actually be showing progress (for reference, on my desk right now are samples of two different 14/16nm current-gen ASICs) and if I can successfully run out a new-version stick or two I can roll all the take from that into a home miner design of my own, like I've been wanting to do for going on two years now. Being broke sucks. I'm working on a whole list of design projects right now, hoping at least some of them will pan out and bring in some revenue. If any of y'all are interested in GPU rigs I'm looking to start manufacture on kit to help 'em run off server PSUs only (4-Molex and ATX24 adapters and the like); also working on improved redesigns of my server PSU boards and a stout USB hub and two new Compac designs.
I'm still working on my own stuff, and a few things might actually be showing progress (for reference, on my desk right now are samples of two different 14/16nm current-gen ASICs) and if I can successfully run out a new-version stick or two I can roll all the take from that into a home miner design of my own, like I've been wanting to do for going on two years now. Being broke sucks. I'm working on a whole list of design projects right now, hoping at least some of them will pan out and bring in some revenue. If any of y'all are interested in GPU rigs I'm looking to start manufacture on kit to help 'em run off server PSUs only (4-Molex and ATX24 adapters and the like); also working on improved redesigns of my server PSU boards and a stout USB hub and two new Compac designs.
It looks an awful lot like it's fallen through.
Very sorry to hear,but I expected that.....Bitmain will be the last to sell miners for "home" use
But with the diff rising & rising who can afford to mine at home with ASICs.....only folks like philipma1957
It looks an awful lot like it's fallen through.
No chips= no news 
Any news here ?
Any news about this project?
@sidehack and @kilo17
Been lurking on this board for couple months. I'm rooting for you guys! I'll be first in line to buy a community miner if the stars ever align. I'm a small time hobby miner (very small time - only 1th on used equipment) but it's too much fun! Wish I could contribute to the effort but I ain't smart enough so I'll just be a cheerleader on the sidelines.
(Had to post here bc I got tired of looking at that same last post for 2 plus weeks
)
Best wishes!!
Been lurking on this board for couple months. I'm rooting for you guys! I'll be first in line to buy a community miner if the stars ever align. I'm a small time hobby miner (very small time - only 1th on used equipment) but it's too much fun! Wish I could contribute to the effort but I ain't smart enough so I'll just be a cheerleader on the sidelines.
(Had to post here bc I got tired of looking at that same last post for 2 plus weeks
)Best wishes!!
Now, back on topic. I am still talking to an ASIC supplier twice per week waiting on updates. Still nothing on the Bitfury front. I have also been reaching out to BW (I will have a hell of a phone bill this month I am sure) but that is in its infancy and I will update if anything comes of it.
I make this prophecy:
You will get nothing out of BW and you will keep getting nothing out of Bitfury and you have no fortune with Bitmain absolutely!
Not a strange and exciting enough prophecy?
not a fault of me, the poor ordinary prophet!
The Almighty assigns simple jobs to me
Now, back on topic. I am still talking to an ASIC supplier twice per week waiting on updates. Still nothing on the Bitfury front. I have also been reaching out to BW (I will have a hell of a phone bill this month I am sure) but that is in its infancy and I will update if anything comes of it.
Aliashraf:
I can appreciate your enthusiasm but you must realize that some of the people debating with you on this thread and your thread are EXTREMELY qualified about electronics and miners. I have been involved in Bitcoin since early 2014 and have about 2 1/2 years of knowledge and I am a young pup to these other guys.
On top of that, some of the guys you are debating with have more education and knowledge about design, layout and fabrication than you and I will ever know.
I have made my fair share of mistakes in Bitcoin and Alt Coin mining etc but have walked away with valuable info. I have made mistakes in life that have thought me valuable lessons. The only thing going to stay with me and what truly matters are my family and how I conduct my affairs. Those were hard lessons to learn but I can assure you I won't make the same mistakes twice. The only reason I say these things is to hopefully give you pause about what is really possible and what is really important.
I am at a point where I want to do some things that truly matter and I do not need to solve world hunger. For me, a community miner designed and built by community members to sell to community members is enough. I am not going to end the mega farms or the centralization of miners nor am I even going to try. I think you will appreciate it when something changes your life, for me it was my wife being diagnosed with breast cancer. I cannot change that either but I can appreciate the time I have with my family now way more than before.
Today I am ok with spending time with my family and doing some little things like working on a community miner.
I can appreciate your enthusiasm but you must realize that some of the people debating with you on this thread and your thread are EXTREMELY qualified about electronics and miners. I have been involved in Bitcoin since early 2014 and have about 2 1/2 years of knowledge and I am a young pup to these other guys.
On top of that, some of the guys you are debating with have more education and knowledge about design, layout and fabrication than you and I will ever know.
I have made my fair share of mistakes in Bitcoin and Alt Coin mining etc but have walked away with valuable info. I have made mistakes in life that have thought me valuable lessons. The only thing going to stay with me and what truly matters are my family and how I conduct my affairs. Those were hard lessons to learn but I can assure you I won't make the same mistakes twice. The only reason I say these things is to hopefully give you pause about what is really possible and what is really important.
I am at a point where I want to do some things that truly matter and I do not need to solve world hunger. For me, a community miner designed and built by community members to sell to community members is enough. I am not going to end the mega farms or the centralization of miners nor am I even going to try. I think you will appreciate it when something changes your life, for me it was my wife being diagnosed with breast cancer. I cannot change that either but I can appreciate the time I have with my family now way more than before.
Today I am ok with spending time with my family and doing some little things like working on a community miner.
In America it's pretty much understood that committees never actually accomplish anything
One of my teachers, probably in high school, defined a committee as a living organism with many stomachs and no brain. That definition and what it connotes stays with me. If I am asked to be part of a committee, it has got to be a small number of people, perhaps 3-5, who, as @sidehack said, have broad knowledge and the ability to get it done. There are two things I would add to that and they are an open mind and a willingness to learn new things.
It's far easier to reach a consensus with a small group of people than a larger group. In the larger group you will likely find that there is a small group that does the work (has the knowledge and the willingness to express their opinion publicly), and who the other members follow.
Your mileage may vary. I know that mine does.
Cheers,
- zed
... the objective of this community miner is not to compete with industrial scale production, it is not to make a profit, it is not to change the face of Bitcoin or the direction it is going. I think this project is a simple plan to produce a miner that common people that love Bitcoin can purchase, mine with and enjoy.
It is also a place to listen to what the little guys want and to respond.
It is also a place to listen to what the little guys want and to respond.
ding! ding! ding!
We have a winner! @Kilo17 hit the mark. I'm interested and have been annoying @sidehack and the other contributors/readers on the other thread with my thoughts. I'm not into mining to corner the hashing market, I'm in it as a hobby. If the miner returns my investment, sweet! If it doesn't, that's OK, too. It's also really cool that I can help someone realize their goal of designing and producing a working miner. If they make some coin from my purchase, that's great. It also gives them the incentive to produce the next cool miner, or whatever.
Cheers,
- zed
That's all more reasons why I'm not quick to jump into bed with any group, organization, third-party or "investor". I'd rather I get screwed than customers get screwed, but at the same time I really hate getting screwed. If I was fine taking in money from who-knows-where and had the resources to police it all, heck we'd have been shipping Gekkoscience-branded miners for the Christmas season.
Good advice for when things get to that point.
Good advice for when things get to that point.
First, it has ZERO chance of being a scam.
I wish both of you (kilo17 & sidehack) all the best, but you've only expressed your intentions.AFAIK kilo17's professional background is MD (medical doctor) in the USA. If that is true, then this is the most over-regulated and over-protected of all professions. You probably have very little experience in unregulated business and with sharks preying there.
I did quite a bit of consulting for the electronics companies set up by cardiologists, and let me pass to you advice of one of them: "admit to yourselves that we've been mollycoddled by the AMA and we have much to learn from those who work in other fields in the USA. Or even the same field, but internationally, with much less regulatory oversight."
In my opinion you (kilo17 & sidehack) need to obtain services and advice of some civil contract lawyer and private investigator. Lawyer would check the contracts and agreements you enter into. PI would check the background of the prospective partners and important customers. IIRC both of you already have experience with "promise and don't deliver" businessmen. That was comparatively cheap lesson compared to other "promise and steal" or "promise and sue" business operators.
Your good intentions will not protect you from scammers and extortionists.
Edit: cypherdoc is no longer posting on this forum. After his brief involvement with Hashfast he had to settle the lawsuits against him. You'll have to research this yourselves, I cannot post links.
I have to mention a point and I'll leave this thread as I have been asked, afterwards ...
The point: Blockchain has enough potential right now to fix most of the scam and extortion stuff, I proposed semi-smart contracts for this purpose.
Another point: (Ok. I'm leaving, just one another point
) This forume, bitcointalk, holds a huge amount of social capital (which I have almost zero share in it, being a newbie here) to be brief my proposal is about using both the Blockchain infrastructure and this forum's 'network of trust' (to be defined later), one can implement a semi-smart contract and run a semi-automated distributed organization. oh, I follow my campaign here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/financing-a-community-miner-project-are-you-in-1528750
First, it has ZERO chance of being a scam.
I wish both of you (kilo17 & sidehack) all the best, but you've only expressed your intentions.AFAIK kilo17's professional background is MD (medical doctor) in the USA. If that is true, then this is the most over-regulated and over-protected of all professions. You probably have very little experience in unregulated business and with sharks preying there.
I did quite a bit of consulting for the electronics companies set up by cardiologists, and let me pass to you advice of one of them: "admit to yourselves that we've been mollycoddled by the AMA and we have much to learn from those who work in other fields in the USA. Or even the same field, but internationally, with much less regulatory oversight."
In my opinion you (kilo17 & sidehack) need to obtain services and advice of some civil contract lawyer and private investigator. Lawyer would check the contracts and agreements you enter into. PI would check the background of the prospective partners and important customers. IIRC both of you already have experience with "promise and don't deliver" businessmen. That was comparatively cheap lesson compared to other "promise and steal" or "promise and sue" business operators.
Your good intentions will not protect you from scammers and extortionists.
Edit: cypherdoc is no longer posting on this forum. After his brief involvement with Hashfast he had to settle the lawsuits against him. You'll have to research this yourselves, I cannot post links.
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