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legendary
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If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.
Yes, maybe some of us hate KYC, but on the other hand, KYC has a plus side that can limit children's involvement in gambling. And this certainly reduces the possibility of children to gamble. yes although indeed, you are right, there are a lot of online gambling on mobile phones that can be done by children because of the ease of access, even without KYC. even in my country where gambling is prohibited, they can still easily access online gambling, with VPN or others.

Even gambling applications can be found anywhere, even in games and children's video shows. this is bad, because children cannot really understand and pamper themselves in gambling. still often carried away by emotions and of course cannot earn their own money better. Their focus is on enjoying their time at their age to learn and play, not gambling which can squeeze the brain badly.


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There must also be attention and vigilance from parents to know the condition of their children, and pay more attention to their children's activities, especially managing their use of cell phones.
Yes this is certainly a big challenge today, where many young people and even small children who are not financially ready to access gambling, and with the broad internet world and in -depth marketing to the application and send personal messages to our social media accounts that are a thing What's bad now, those who do this ad do not see who received their message whether it was children or not, and that made this case more complicated in some countries, there must be two two supports that were massively done first of support from People to supervise their children and the two governments must work hard to block gambling advertisements continuously and establish clear regulations on gambling advertising regulations in order to have controlled advertising segmentation.

If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.

It would seem most teen and children who are introduced to the world of gambling manage to find the way to gamble and bet on sport through offline methods anyways.
They could use the account of someone else who allows the child to gamble with their own money or be introduced to card games by a family member, there is no scarcity on the ways they could access to gambling.

Often adults underestimate the abilities of teens to get what they want and get away with it, in my opinion. When I was a teen, I recall there were others of my same age which were able to get to drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes, in spite of their young age. So if they can get away with tobacco, they can definitely do the same with casinos.

Also, For teens and children is easier to manage cash instead of cryptocurrency, less KYC, let us remember exchanges also require sending documents to them as well.

The case in offline gambling I think is not as bad as online gambling, because it will talk about mobility and obedience.
I will connect your argument, in the problem that parents often underestimate the ability to be young or children who are now very familiar in using their cellphones. It's true because in general parents who don't even understand about cellphones, but now I think there are only a few young people who are more comfortable using cash, most of them are more accustomed to using e-money, even if they see crypto users are still small, but things like Transactions can still be tried to use P2P exchange that can be found easily without using the exchange, and as I say that this KYC is quite difficult for some people who don't like complicated things in accessing casino.
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Have you seen many teens that gamble? I understand that is hard to check it, as teens will never confess that they gamble, nor it is easy to catch them during playing, but overall, has anyone ever seen a teen in a casino, or saw them placing bets using their mobiles? I did not have a goal to find a gambling teen, but I have never seen one around. What I usually see, is that teens watch instagram or tiktok video, laugh about it, and keep swiping for a new video.
Yeah, it is hard to check and know how many teens gamble because with using the Internet, they can hide their gambling activity. Their parents also doesn't know if their children gambling until they see their children have a problem with their gambling habit. They can go to a place and sit in the back with their friends but they open their smartphone and browse the casino. But I already seen some people playing together in a home in the night where I came back from my office. They looks enjoy playing slot game because I see what they played. I don't ask too much to them but I know that they are above 18 but under 25 years. I still consider that they often playing slot games with their friends and if they don't have control, that will makes them in a difficult situation.

There's certain indicators that they are participating on gambling activities. For sure there's foot tracks they left online that's why its really good that we as parent we should check every activities they do online. Also we should check their devices if there's gambling apps or links on their search history.

If we don't do those things then provably that there's huge chance for our children to be involve on gambling since there are lots of influencers promoting this and anyone could gamble at their comfort. Proper advice is needed and maybe it will be good if we step up first educate them the risk on gambling since it will be hard to interrupt them if they are already participating.
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Have you seen many teens that gamble? I understand that is hard to check it, as teens will never confess that they gamble, nor it is easy to catch them during playing, but overall, has anyone ever seen a teen in a casino, or saw them placing bets using their mobiles? I did not have a goal to find a gambling teen, but I have never seen one around. What I usually see, is that teens watch instagram or tiktok video, laugh about it, and keep swiping for a new video.
Yeah, it is hard to check and know how many teens gamble because with using the Internet, they can hide their gambling activity. Their parents also doesn't know if their children gambling until they see their children have a problem with their gambling habit. They can go to a place and sit in the back with their friends but they open their smartphone and browse the casino. But I already seen some people playing together in a home in the night where I came back from my office. They looks enjoy playing slot game because I see what they played. I don't ask too much to them but I know that they are above 18 but under 25 years. I still consider that they often playing slot games with their friends and if they don't have control, that will makes them in a difficult situation.
legendary
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Have you seen many teens that gamble? I understand that is hard to check it, as teens will never confess that they gamble, nor it is easy to catch them during playing, but overall, has anyone ever seen a teen in a casino, or saw them placing bets using their mobiles? I did not have a goal to find a gambling teen, but I have never seen one around. What I usually see, is that teens watch instagram or tiktok video, laugh about it, and keep swiping for a new video.
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It's interesting that this is happening in the U.S. even though supposedly there every sports book has to be licensed on a state level.

So obviously even with KYC and strict age/ID verification, people have obviously found a way to go through these systems even when underage. At some point, personal responsibility is also coming into play. So I don't think we should just blame it on the platforms. If a parent or uncle or cousin or whatever lets a literal kid use their name to access gambling, it could happen with vapes, alcohol etc also. So gambling is the least of their worries. It's the adults that are responsible at this point.
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If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.

It would seem most teen and children who are introduced to the world of gambling manage to find the way to gamble and bet on sport through offline methods anyways.
They could use the account of someone else who allows the child to gamble with their own money or be introduced to card games by a family member, there is no scarcity on the ways they could access to gambling.

Often adults underestimate the abilities of teens to get what they want and get away with it, in my opinion. When I was a teen, I recall there were others of my same age which were able to get to drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes, in spite of their young age. So if they can get away with tobacco, they can definitely do the same with casinos.

Also, For teens and children is easier to manage cash instead of cryptocurrency, less KYC, let us remember exchanges also require sending documents to them as well.
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If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.
Yes, maybe some of us hate KYC, but on the other hand, KYC has a plus side that can limit children's involvement in gambling. And this certainly reduces the possibility of children to gamble. yes although indeed, you are right, there are a lot of online gambling on mobile phones that can be done by children because of the ease of access, even without KYC. even in my country where gambling is prohibited, they can still easily access online gambling, with VPN or others.

Even gambling applications can be found anywhere, even in games and children's video shows. this is bad, because children cannot really understand and pamper themselves in gambling. still often carried away by emotions and of course cannot earn their own money better. Their focus is on enjoying their time at their age to learn and play, not gambling which can squeeze the brain badly.


Source: Underage gambling

There must also be attention and vigilance from parents to know the condition of their children, and pay more attention to their children's activities, especially managing their use of cell phones.
legendary
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If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.
That is true and I think that is also one of the main purposes of KYCs, it's to prevent minors from gambling while they still don't understand what the risk they are taking.
Many gambling sites on the other hand which are created for the purpose of scamming people will not even have KYC at all, they will just the gambler if he is 18+ and that's it. Any kid who learned how to read can simply answer yes just to be able to enter the game.
I think this is where the government should focus on stopping, those small businesses that are making money through their illegal work, but they don't want to catch them because they will not make money out of them. They will just simply close their business and create a new one. If possible, they should be prevented from creating another by imprisoning those who are behind it.

However, minors these days know how to go around such requirement, like they can borrow ID cards from their older siblings or sneak the IDs from their parents. That is why you need to instill values to your kids at their early age. This will be your weapon even if you are not around.

Do remember, illegal casinos will always be there. They will only stop their operations when someone reported them and forced to shut down their site. But as long as they can do their business, they will.
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If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.
That is true and I think that is also one of the main purposes of KYCs, it's to prevent minors from gambling while they still don't understand what the risk they are taking.
Many gambling sites on the other hand which are created for the purpose of scamming people will not even have KYC at all, they will just the gambler if he is 18+ and that's it. Any kid who learned how to read can simply answer yes just to be able to enter the game.
I think this is where the government should focus on stopping, those small businesses that are making money through their illegal work, but they don't want to catch them because they will not make money out of them. They will just simply close their business and create a new one. If possible, they should be prevented from creating another by imprisoning those who are behind it.
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Are there real numbers how many underaged gamblers there are now compared to previous years? In the youtube video it was told about 90% increase, but are there any proof of that or any more details? 90% increase can be different. It can be that 10 out of 100k students were gambling last year, and now 19 students out of 100k gamble. That is a 90% increase, but in general that is close to nothing. 
Well so far personally I have not seen a statistically reliable source that has gotten a correct and accurate data with evidence that the data was from actual underaged gamblers, the most I have seen so far are literally estimation and maybe assumptions gotten from data on gambling sites accessible by almost everyone cutting across all ages because most of these sites do not have restrictions if you are visiting them and some even t the point of signing up on some.of these platforms you still find no restrictions except for the question that concerns age which almost anyone can literally lie about.
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If we talk honestly, KYC is actually quite a hindrance for children to be able to play gambling in online casinos because not all children can fake their identity, I think this is quite helpful, but the worse thing is with casinos that do not set KYC and anyone can access it, I myself often find many illegal casinos or do not apply KYC in their casinos, and the average child of them does not care about the regulation or license of a casino or talk about casino security and fairness, because in their mind is to play and multiply their money in gambling, finding a random online gambling site on Google they will register.
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That's the bad side of online gambling, you can't really control the users you get, even with the under 18 rule, teenagers can just lie and still get access to gambleing features, I think they have to get more strict and find better ways to keep teenagers off gambling sites, maybe by taking some birth certificate as part of their kyc verification, I think that would reduce the amount if teenagers in online casino.
Nice suggestion but I don’t think that would help very much. Kids forge IDs to get a drink at the bar all the time, it would not be that difficult for them to verify kyc on a gambling site. Gambling will remain a center of attention for the kids as long as their favourite online streamer is promoting the casino. They spend most of their time on their phones and watch these online streamers play video games and promote gambling sites, it’s safe to say kids nowadays listen to influencers on the internet than anyone else in their life.
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That's the bad side of online gambling, you can't really control the users you get, even with the under 18 rule, teenagers can just lie and still get access to gambleing features, I think they have to get more strict and find better ways to keep teenagers off gambling sites, maybe by taking some birth certificate as part of their kyc verification, I think that would reduce the amount if teenagers in online casino.

I like your suggestion, yes,it's very crucial as well.Even though you're not so consistent,you should be able to monitor their activities and attitudes more especially at this young age where they seem to be unaware of some addictions or unnecessary struggling to addictions.

I'll advice you find healthy alternatives that'll engage and indulge the children early against laying wrong foundations and Gambling prevention and education should introduced early.
Children/teenagers will think and refer to gambling as a social activity but it could give them more problems and stress to cope with.
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Nevertheless, have you seen many teens gambling? I usually seem them hand out outside and laugh over something silly, talk or stick in their gadgets. It is hard to see what exactly they do in their mobiles, but since they hold them horizontally and use both thumbs to tap, I doubt that they gamble. At least I dont know any gambling game where it is required to tap and/or hold screen with both thumbs. I am worried about their level of education, as I often notice, that each years, they pass exams with worse and worse results.

I've seen it myself because there are just too many teens do gambling in my area, they usually do it in a group in a specific place.
The fact in my country, there are more than 400k teens (age between 10-20) who are participating in online casinos.
A sad news of course but it is the fact in my coutry as mentioned in most local newspaper.
Parents should be more responsible to their children by giving more attention to what their children do with their gadgets.
Also controlling the money given to their children may help a bit to minimize the chance of their children trapped in online casinos.

I would not say that controlling how children spend money is the best way how to act in this situation. These teens will turn 18 in several years probably, and nothing would stop from gambling. Better teach them how to manage finances more properly. And it seems that it is to late to pay much attention to what kids do with gadgets. They should have done it years and years ago. Now kids already are familiar with possibilities, and have friends or surrounding who gamble.
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If we talk about cash,.then it is obvious it would become more difficult to control. Nothing stops a group of teens with cash on their hands from gambling their parents money away and not getting caught.

Are you talking about offline casinos? And being a licensed casinos, not a shady ones? They I would say that those teens with cash in their hands gambling career would end at the entrance of the casino, as guards wont let them gamble. I think not a single casino would want to risk their reputation and licenses in exchange for lunch money. But, nothing stops those teens from gambling between themselves. Play cards are in free access, and they can place bets on different scenarios between themselves.
Or online. Lunch money will be taken from them by the online casino and they can always fake their ID's there if KYC is needed. Or, just one adult friend can lend his account in exchange for an interest out of the bets that will be made.
Also, there are online casinos that are not doing KYC unless you hit a certain amount which will make you questionable about your deposits and withdrawals. So, there's always a way for these teens to gamble and just using Google will provide them the answers. This is why concerns are growing with them and I am also concerned with my kids' future after witnessing how easy it is to gamble now. Sometimes an e-mail address will suffice to gamble. Scary.
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because technology has advanced so greatly but the thing about good inventions also is that there is always an equal opposite side as same as the positive.

Yes, this is what happens, for all the advances you must always see both sides, the positive and the negative, all technological and non-technological tools must be studied for the possible bad things that they can do by taking Advantage of that, and that is where you must have enough coldness to talk to children, to Adolescents, about the dangers they can face , and that is a measure of preparation, only now adolescents and children are very complicated , because they are in a world where there are so many freedoms that it is difficult to anchor the positive things in their sorrows, when they see other types of freedom in their friends.
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Nevertheless, have you seen many teens gambling? I usually seem them hand out outside and laugh over something silly, talk or stick in their gadgets. It is hard to see what exactly they do in their mobiles, but since they hold them horizontally and use both thumbs to tap, I doubt that they gamble. At least I dont know any gambling game where it is required to tap and/or hold screen with both thumbs. I am worried about their level of education, as I often notice, that each years, they pass exams with worse and worse results.

I've seen it myself because there are just too many teens do gambling in my area, they usually do it in a group in a specific place.
The fact in my country, there are more than 400k teens (age between 10-20) who are participating in online casinos.
A sad news of course but it is the fact in my coutry as mentioned in most local newspaper.
Parents should be more responsible to their children by giving more attention to what their children do with their gadgets.
Also controlling the money given to their children may help a bit to minimize the chance of their children trapped in online casinos.
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Without a doubt teens need to be educated about it, however are they willing to listen? After all we must remember that many teens today believe themselves to be more wise than other teens on the past and even wiser than most people in general, and when you believe yourself to be above others, it is unlikely those teens will hear their advice, so it is a very complicated topic as there is not really an easy way to solve this problem.

And who makes teens become like that? Their parents and you can't change my mind about this. Children aren't born with thoughts, arrogance, and attitudes; they have them after they are brought up, and the elders' upbringing towards these teens plays a big role in making them the way they are today.

If parents teach their children the ways and behaviors that can make them good when they grow up, they won't suffer from these things after their children become grown, so parents need to take care of these things, the upbringing should be done in a good way for children to be good and obedient when they grow up.

If my child isn't obedient, is disrespectful with everyone including me, does what isn't good for him/her, then it's all my fault because I didn't do my best as a parent.
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I was discussing with a friend about this issue and we also came to the same conclusion that it will be very difficult to keep teams away from gambling especially now that we have online crypto casinos that do not ask for KYC. They are so aware of things now and can do most of these things in secrete without even the parents knowing. Even parents do buy their kids smart phones but not all of them are able to monitor what the kids do with the phone so how will it be possible to control their gambling when they have all the information they need on social media.
When their parents can teach how to use their mobile phone and telling them about the danger if they use their phone for bad things, they will not trying to use for the bad things. They know that will cause their life in danger especially if they know that gambling can makes them becomes addicting. They will use their mobile phone with right and will not doing anything that can lead them to gets the problem.

Parents needs to takes care of their teens carefully because in this era, the technology grow fast and they can use it for anything if they can't filter it with good. We already see what happens to teens that using their mobile phone for something bad and that caused them in trouble and that will difficult to solve. That's why parents should close to their teens and communicate with them.
legendary
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If we talk about cash,.then it is obvious it would become more difficult to control. Nothing stops a group of teens with cash on their hands from gambling their parents money away and not getting caught.

Are you talking about offline casinos? And being a licensed casinos, not a shady ones? They I would say that those teens with cash in their hands gambling career would end at the entrance of the casino, as guards wont let them gamble. I think not a single casino would want to risk their reputation and licenses in exchange for lunch money. But, nothing stops those teens from gambling between themselves. Play cards are in free access, and they can place bets on different scenarios between themselves.
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