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Topic: *Conclusion* Faster block coins only get 60% of estimated reward (Read 2932 times)

full member
Activity: 383
Merit: 100
Your pool must be scamming you man. If not please provide proof.
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
What I noticed - and this puzzles me - is that different GPUs in the same rig have wildly different stale rates!

I have one two-card computer with a 7950 and a 7950 in it, and I found the 7970 (in GUiminer scrypt (in reality that's cgminer behind the scenes), intensity 13) to get around 3% stales, whereas the 7950 in the same guiminer instance (bit a separate worker) got nearly 20% stales (intensity 20 - same result on intensity 18).

My results mining on erundook.net's wdcpool2 since last night with my 7970 is 9214 shares accepted and 290 stale, according to guiminer/cgminer, this conforms with the site stats, and my payouts seem to be exactly as expected, too.

So, while I've seen horrible stale rates from other GPUs, and the orphan rate on the pool seems to be around 10%, at least this one 7970 gives me a WDC income that seems to fit well with coinchoose.com.

I thought the different results people were getting were related to network latency or something, but since two cards in the same rig can behave so differently, there must be something else to it. I have no idea what it is, though! Smiley
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Bump. The WDC community has concluded that it is common for you to receive 60% of what your pools "reward calculator" is displaying.

So if coinchoose is showing 180% profitability to BTC, it is in fact 60% of the 180%, which is 108% actual profitability to BTC.

This is common for all coins with a faster block time. This information will be added to the WDC forum, under a stickied FAQ thread within a day or so.

That is all.

Thank you for the information!

Can you please also be so kind and tell me where is the "WDC forum"?

Worldcoinforum.org

But your forum is not listed on WDC website: http://worldcoin.in/services/

Its yet to be listed, and is the official "community" forum.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
We have had multiple miners and pool operators confirm this. If you dont notice that the amount of coins hitting your wallet is 60% of most pools "reward calculator", than i dont know what to tell you.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Bump. The WDC community has concluded that it is common for you to receive 60% of what your pools "reward calculator" is displaying.

So if coinchoose is showing 180% profitability to BTC, it is in fact 60% of the 180%, which is 108% actual profitability to BTC.

This is common for all coins with a faster block time. This information will be added to the WDC forum, under a stickied FAQ thread within a day or so.

That is all.

Thank you for the information!

Can you please also be so kind and tell me where is the "WDC forum"?

Worldcoinforum.org

But your forum is not listed on WDC website: http://worldcoin.in/services/
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Bump. The WDC community has concluded that it is common for you to receive 60% of what your pools "reward calculator" is displaying.

So if coinchoose is showing 180% profitability to BTC, it is in fact 60% of the 180%, which is 108% actual profitability to BTC.

This is common for all coins with a faster block time. This information will be added to the WDC forum, under a stickied FAQ thread within a day or so.

That is all.

Thank you for the information!

Can you please also be so kind and tell me where is the "WDC forum"?

Worldcoinforum.org
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
fml
It's a bit lower but no way is it 60%. Not for me at least.

What I have noticed, is that my WDC per day, can lower, if a lot of peopl are mining in my pool. Obviously, more peopl taking a piece from the same size pie, means smaller pieces for everyone.
sr. member
Activity: 854
Merit: 253
l0tt0.com
Bump. The WDC community has concluded that it is common for you to receive 60% of what your pools "reward calculator" is displaying.

So if coinchoose is showing 180% profitability to BTC, it is in fact 60% of the 180%, which is 108% actual profitability to BTC.

This is common for all coins with a faster block time. This information will be added to the WDC forum, under a stickied FAQ thread within a day or so.

That is all.

Thank you for the information!

Can you please also be so kind and tell me where is the "WDC forum"?
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
It's a bit lower but no way is it 60%. Not for me at least.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
fml
Hmmmm...But, when I mine LTC, I make about .05 BTC/day....I average about .09 BTC / day, mining WDC...That seems to be on par, percentage wise....Your findings, are inconsistent
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
I know erundooks calculator is based off of transactions, so probably everyones pool but his.
legendary
Activity: 1268
Merit: 1009
Is this true for all of the pools?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Bump. The WDC community has concluded that it is common for you to receive 60% of what your pools "reward calculator" is displaying.

So if coinchoose is showing 180% profitability to BTC, it is in fact 60% of the 180%, which is 108% actual profitability to BTC.

This is common for all coins with a faster block time. This information will be added to the WDC forum, under a stickied FAQ thread within a day or so.

That is all.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
I also experienced the same thing, I got way less payout than projected on BigVern's pool.  After a few days of mining, the amount of BTC I earned is comparable to if I had been BTC mining the entire time, even though profitability is supposedly significantly higher than BTC mining.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
I switched to several pools and actually stopped mining both WDC and DGC because I was experiencing the same thing. 
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Well, after more testing, this issue still hasn't been fixed.

I have tried every setting in the book, nothing changes.

Multipool.in gave me an 87% return in the first hour, 75% in the second, and down again to 66% in the third.

BigVern's pool is just a straight 60% return.


Issue still persists, only receiving 60% of projected payouts.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Carpe Diem
there is no way to change these settings on cpuminer are there?   I tried adding -s 10 and -E 15  but minerd wouldn't launch then.  Thanks
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Why you scammin', bro?

Heh Smiley  I guess if there is anywhere to have a thick-skin, it is these forums.  I love the allegations of scamming especially when all my data is verifiable...
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Why you scammin', bro?
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
coinchoose.com is a scam, they co-operate with scam coins to cheat the newbie  Angry

How so?  We add coins as soon as they are on one of the exchanges we support (Vircurex, BTC-e, MCXNow, Cryptsy) and we have enough understanding of the block reward (and can get the difficulty from somewhere).  The profitability is derived from other numbers on the table (and can be double-checked).  Currency statistics are automatically updated once per minute and quotes are automatically updated more often than that.  So, it is just information that is being presented.

As far as cooperation, I guess when a  new coin is created, it has a blockexplorer and is listed on one of the above exchanges and someone (could be the coin creator) contacts me to ask me to put the coin up, I will try to. 

As an additional FYI, my miners are still pointed at BTC right now until I can figure out my riser card issues Smiley

So - any basis to say "they co-operate with scam coins to cheat the newbie"?  Please explain.
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