Topic: *Conclusion* Faster block coins only get 60% of estimated reward - page 3. (Read 2874 times)

Dunno then. Obviously, this isn't a global problem, or this thread would be full of hundreds of replies, and global hashrate would drop.

I hash at about 1.2, 1.3 Mhash.

All of my confirmed blocks on Vern's pool have payouts. I just jumped on a pool that was about 200 total Mhash, and the results were the same.

Don't know what to tell you, I get around what I should be getting. Do you have a slow hashrate? Some of those blocks solve pretty quickly, it's common for slower miners, to not be fast enough to submit a share, in a really fast round.
If you look at the block stats, and you see a lot of confirmed blocks, with no reward listed for you, than there's your issue. If that's the case, a smaller, slower pool, would be better for you

This isn't a PPLNS issue, I have been on BigVern's pool since it launched, and was still missing 40% of my payouts.

I'm trying to put together why two of the best pools for WDC are only paying out 55-60% of what the projected earnings should be.

Erundook had an interesting point in this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2248624



and so did Maged in this thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2218876




I think these orphans/stale/rejects w/e, basically DOA pools shares, are going unseen. But they are happening, and they effectively reduce the overall network hashrate, and the hashrate of each miner by about 40%.

The orpan blocks, have a little line through them. And yes, for the first little while, I did only get about 55-60% payouts, but, because I can read, and understand how the PPLNS payout system works, I stuck with it, and now I get 90-95% of the estimated coins/day...Knowledge is power

Ohhhh, it's a p2pool.  Dude, you can't compare p2pool orphans with non-p2pool or solo mining orphans.  Completely different things!

DGC rate on a pool: http://54.227.253.120:9500/static/

Pool rate: 79.1MH/s (6.3% DOA+orphan) Share difficulty: 0.254

Node uptime: 2.455 days Peers: 0 out, 0 in

Local rate: 78.6MH/s (13% DOA) Expected time to share: 0.00386 hours

Shares: 15386 total (151 orphaned, 1204 dead) Efficiency: 97.27%

We already proved the orphan thing is a myth.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the stale/orphan/reject rate isn't being correctly reported by the pool.


Have you noticed that you only get 55-60% of the estimated payout from his pool? Do the math.

Um, so far, on Big Verns pool, there has been 1 orphan, in the last 200 blocks...And my CGMiner, shows a ~2% reject rate...Where did your numbers come from 

--------Conclusion-----------

The WDC community has concluded that it is common for you to receive 60% of what your pools "reward calculator" is displaying.

So if coinchoose is showing 180% profitability to BTC, it is in fact 60% of the 180%, which is 108% actual profitability to BTC.

This is common for all coins with a faster block time. This information will be added to the WDC forum, under a stickied FAQ thread within a day or so.

That is all.



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The orphan rate on both coins is about 40% (slightly less on DGC, but still about the same). This means that you will be making 40% less of what you should be making, no matter what.


Coinchoose.com and most pool earnings calculators fail to include this fact, that's why you will notice that you are receiving far less coins than what the calcs say you should be getting.


Now, we can still have a coin with fast transactions, but I think most of the community fails to realize this, and think that they are getting "ripped off". Thus they give up on Worldcoin or DGC all together.


So realize this right now miners, 140% profitability for WorldCoin, actually means about 84% profitability. (60% of the 140% to Bitcoin).



Now with that knowledge, mine what you will mine, and let the market do it's thing. I still believe WorldCoin can be a good coin, but let's just get the facts right, and not put all of our trust on Coinchoose.com.