Topic: Confession - Zapo=aTriz. - page 4. (Read 13962 times)

Please explain how exactly you "accidentally" scam someone. If someone looses money because of your mistake, that is not accidentally scamming someone, it is either you reimburse whoever lost money because of you, or you are explicitly intentionally scamming someone. Period.

No.

My original plan was to land a couple clients, and then expose myself later on when I had a bunch of experience, and I did some good work for the community. This was earlier than expected, but what can you do.

I'm not exit scamming. I've never purposely scammed anyone, and all the issues from aTriz were from me being careless. I'll even pay out a little early today.

It's from a music album released a couple months back - Stay Dangerous By YG.

Don't know who Aventhe is, except on pm instance, where he asked me to check me for one of the BTC sig campaigns I was running on aTriz. So no, I'm not him.

They know.

I'm pretty sure my english isn't that bad now is it? I'm trying to learn how to touch type on a mechanical K70 keyboard, and before I was quite accustomed to my old Mac for typing. Probably this, but there's nothing else I can think of.

Thank you Lauda.

The higher interest offered was half not knowing how high-interest rates are on bitcointalk, and half me sort of desperate. I've held probably ~2 BTC of escrow funds at once and never ran, so I won't be running with any funds here.

Here's the timeline

Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.
I was in possession of the account, all the way until a couple weeks back, in which someone sort of wanted to trial the account for a week, and then I got it back. If you check my posts, there was a quite well made post addressing a scam accusation. Down below.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43073635

TLDR - Bought account when account buying was fine, and then lended out a couple months back for a week, still have it. Only 3 people have had access to aTriz.

I just glanced at aTriz's post history and for some reason, I have this theory that, 4 people, or at least 3 people have controlled that account. The initial owner had control over the account till 2014, then either someone else bought it or used it from April 2017, and few months later, the aTriz we know controlled the account(might be the same owner who controlled it in 2014), and then a random spammer who used it for a few days.

Stop spewing bullshit conspiracy theories. If mr. Atriz wanted to "scam", he would have done so as he had plenty of opportunities to do so with non-pocket change amounts.

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Surprised given this thread.

I guess it was just smooth talking and luck..  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/loan-request-for-03-btc-5042702
http://archive.is/vny7w



Also - He was asking to borrow 0.3 BTC and repay 0.4 BTC..
That is a whole 33.333% interest! Quite high interest..
That's $650 in interest he is offering to pay.. Ouch..

It is somewhat the mark of a loan scammer to offer such high interest, so people are more greedy to fund the loan for them, put up with more risk for that profit, and the scammer isn't planning on paying back so they don't care what the interest is anyway.. Make the lenders rush to fill it, make them make hasty decisions..

Suspicious..


Why did you offer such high interest?
It might as well be a doubler..

I'm listening closely to your opinion here, believe me--not that it matters all that much what I think.  

I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently.  It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write.  That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined.

And the reason I questioned the Aventhe possibility is that the timing and writing style of the PMs I got were very similar, and both accounts were very active around the time I got those PMs.  Both became inactive seemingly (to me) at the same time.  Could be my paranoia, and I don't know if aTriz/Zapo would cop to Aventhe being his alt even if it were true.

Yeah, good point.

There was the episode where he "rented out" his account to some spammer. Also there was proof of aTriz account having been purchased a year or two ago. I'm sure there was more, I just can't remember everything now.

Even this latest debacle came to light only because LoyceV exposed it. 0.3 BTC loan without collateral LOL...

This "Ima be honest after I'm caught" routine is getting old.

I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.

On a related note, I've always been curious as to whether Aventhe is an alt of aTriz/Zapo.  It's been a lingering suspicion of mine based on communications I've had with both of them, though I don't have hard proof and there was never any reason to make an issue out of it.

I think that's a very good idea.  I'm not sure what to think about his trustworthiness at this point.  aTriz was always a very good campaign manager, and I got the sense that he was diligent and could be trusted with campaign funds--and then SHTF, and it's a valid point that an exit scam thing might not be out of the question.

Living up to the motto in his personal text - "stay dangerous" ..

Might it not be out of the question to ask him kindly to put those funds into the hands of a trusted escrow?
Since he plans to be so honest and whatever from now on right? Like he says..
That would possibly be a nice show of good faith..
If they exist as you say..

Since the account is already tagged and they're running two signature campaigns which I believe are self-escrowed, has anybody given a thought that they might just run away with the escrow money and still have nothing to lose? I mean they have shown the tendency to come back again with new accounts.

How 5?

I can remember only these:

- Lying about BitBlisscoin, and the paying deadley 7 ETH or whatever the amount was back.
- His whole involvement with Alia and her "gambling script".

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You'll so get used to it and before you know it, you'll start guessing which accounts are controlled by QS and which aren't, believe me. 

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Zapo/aTriz, what were you thinking when trying to create a new identity here? Did you forget how bitcointalk works or?

People started suspecting you the moment you came up with 2 new high paying campaigns out of nowhere, just like how aTriz did. Even if you haven't shown your naivety or anything here through the Zapo account_{(yet  )}, it is still not enough for people to give you another chance. Instead of asking for another chance, prove it, and managing 2 campaigns isn't enough if you think that's going to change anything. Just be careful with what you're playing with.

You know you have a problem when you need to say that.


That would be his ~5th chance though, so - no.

Just wowed by the scammer ....

Another new account with same two faced fucker... Did u sell aTriz?

All those who apparently have a pecuniary interest in you are supporting you, no surprises.

I too had my suspicions that you are the same pimp when you refused me in your campaign, but then I guess some people are petty assholes.



Long Live The Racist Coterie.

I am not aware of atriz case because I am still somehow a newbie in the forum.

I participate in IOU and BQT campaigns, managed by Zapo and I think he is a good manager.
Zero spammers, payments in time.

I wish good luck to Zapo clearing up the problems he had in the past, as he is doing a nice job in the forum, as Loycev pointed out.

Thanks Loycev, for exposing the situation. This forum surprises me everyday.

I haven't had much, if any, interaction with Zapo thus far but I still swear aTriz had better English writing skills than he's shown in this thread--and that's not meant to be a slap or anything, just an observation.  I don't see anything that would be gained by this if the two accounts weren't the same, so I guess I'll take all of this at face value.

I'm not going to leave any new feedback for Zapo.  I do believe in second chances, and the big difference between aTriz and someone like QS is that the latter doesn't even understand where he fucked up, much less admit to and apologize for it.  I don't know anything about cunicula and what his problem is, but it doesn't sound like he's trying to make amends or restitution.  He ought to start his own thread if he thinks this is a bunch of hypocrisy, however.

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It does not but you are making your red trust too cheap. Think about it.

https://youtu.be/v__qBmkuqF0

New account magically removed this:



 

Bitcoin gives you the choice not mandatory.  

Look mate I do not know you and do not want to throw any comment about you without knowing you well but I feel like you are trying to take advantages of this topic.

There are a lot of people who wants to have fair chances (not even 2nd chance) but it does not mean that you will ruin someone else's topic and pull things to leverage your problem. Don't make it a game.


Thanks

Just go away. The number of shenanigans you are involved in via aTriz shows you are willing to do just about anything to make a few dollars, even if that means others are harmed and/or defrauded.