Topic: CONMEBOL 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification (South America) - page 13. (Read 3392 times)

The Brazilian national team has been going through a kind of never-ending crisis that has been going on for a few years now. The possibility of being left out of the next World Cup is real. The coach is bad, the players have no playing style and the team is still being restructured. Only 8 players from the last game are still there. This is a big warning sign to me. If Brazil can't find its feet in time, it will have the biggest fiasco in its history, when it comes to national teams.

The reason why Conmebol qualifiers doesn't get too many attention like the qualifiers from other continental football associations is because of the predictability of the results. When ever these Conmebol countries are facing each other, it's usually easy to predict the outcome of the games and that I think have gone a long way in limiting the excitement that comes with the qualifiers.
That being said, I think there's someone very interesting about this particular this edition of FIFA World Cup qualifiers and that's the fact that Brazil is currently in the sixth position of the qualifying table. Many football fans within and outside the North American continent are eager to see if Brazil can bounce back or will for the first time in the history of the country fail to qualify for the FIFA World Cup.

Ah! Yes, yes, it's true that we have Conmebol, sometimes we forget about these qualifiers 

What a good start to rehash things, showing that classification table, very strange with things like Brazil in sixth place and Venezuela in the top 4 and what to say about Peru in last place...

I think that, although everything seems to have a lot of light to it in several matchs, I don't see it that way... be careful with those bets of @1.5 or less for this Thursday matchday.

My observations for the next rounds
Round 7 - 05 and 06 September
Round 8 - 10 September


Brazil have probably improved and will get the 6 points, giving them some relief and at least 4th place

Venezuela will have a tough game against Uruguay

Colombia will have a very good game against Argentina again, and will have the chance for a rematch, probably a draw

I don't see any of the teams having an easy time getting the 6 points, but in theory Brazil is the one with the easiest opponents (only in theory hehehe)

Welcome back qualifier match for CONMEBOL zone

Brazil national team standings dropped to 6th as the latest standings directly qualify to FIFA World Cup 2026 after having bad performance in last several matches. Next tomorrow day will face Ecuador and securing three points will make them reach to 4th standings place depend Venezuela match result against Bolivia. For CONMEBOL zone have six national teams participants will automatically qualify to World Cup 2026 and the 7th standings place have to play on playoff round against Oceania teams participants.

For this international break out, all national team have two qualifying matches and Brazil will face Ecuador then Paraguay four days later after their first match.
Brazil have bad performance in qualifier matches after losing 3 of 8 matches and 2 winning matches then have one match being draw, the qualifier round still have many 12 matches left and Brazil still get opportunity break out to the top standings position depend on their performance.

After a long time, the qualifiers are back 

Here's the updated table



The 7th round matches will take place tomorrow (06 and 07)

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Do you think anything has changed since this hiatus?
Have any teams become stronger?

I think Ancelotti is very respectful of Real Madrid and doesn't want to lose focus of his work because it will generate a lot of questions, so he should really deny any news for the time being


Maybe you're right
I don't think Brazil's only solution is a foreign coach, because there are good Brazilian coaches who could lead the national team. The lack of definition is even worse because there won't be a proper sequence of work, and the current coach is working in Fluminense and the national team, without total focus
But I think Ancelotti or even another foreigner would be good to deal with the players who mostly play in Europe and would certainly add a lot of experience to the group

And it only seems to get worse, doesn't it? Have to say to take the last game out of the equation somewhat, with the preceding situation and all that. Didn;t watch but reports agree the flank loading and speed just didn't work out -- curious if Ance gets there and if he does, how he might steady that ship.

On the other hand, I'm really excited by Uruguay =) See you guys in... almost a year? Haha

Seeing how Brazil played yesterday, I felt like they are have lost it. They are in somewhat of a mess. But not at crisis levels yet. That style we used to know them for isn’t there anymore. Brazil have also lost that extra flair because a sizable amount of their players have been indoctrinated into the European style. They're not far ahead of everyone talent wise as it was the case before. Also, European teams are tactically better & fitter.

For me, the choice of manager isn't much more serene. The issue of the interim manager has played its part in their current predicament. Dismissing Tito and bringing in a caretaker which hasn’t been doing the right thing. He has now lost three of his six games in charge after this Argentina humbling.
If anyone can provide it then Ancelotti will give it a good go. Otherwise, Brazilian football certainly will be in crisis. If ancheloti takes over, things might be different, maybe there's why they signed him.....to bring the European style to them since all their players have the European style in them.

Agent of Chaos strikes again! Just hope he brings this form to Citeh. Weird to see Brazil sitting in that last spot isn't it? Plenty of time to cement that? Or could they... do the unthinkable and slip out?


Been seeing the same mention twice at least, ESPN for sure brought it up, can't remember where I read it elsewhere. I can't see it at all really, but won't pretend to understand that part of Selecao...

The reason is because of the Copa America 2024, which will be held between June 20 and July 14 (I think the Eurocup will also be held during this period)
The Copa America will be held in the United States


Yesterday was a day for Brazilians to learn two lessons, both from the fight inside the stadium and from the soccer
The CBF made big mistakes in yesterday's game, they should have separated brazilians and argentinians, because they know what a great rivalry there is, it's a shame for brazil

As for the soccer, Brazil played very badly, deserved to lose and there's not much to comment on, it doesn't even look like the Brazil of old times, it's probably the worst qualify of Brazil


I'll try to find the source, but I saw last week that Ancelotti will be the coach of Brazil in Copa America next year, I think it's possible @Slow death

Brazil 0 - 1 Argentina

This game was already predictable that there would be a lot of disagreements between the Argentines and the Brazilians, especially if it had to be held in a scenario where in Argentina the winner of the elections would be the guy who doesn't like the president of Brazil, and that same guy won the elections in Argentina causing relations between these two countries to become dire and this will further influence the way Argentines will look at the Brazilians when these two teams play, the things we saw in that game are very regrettable, and a very reprehensible on the part of anyone who is promoting violence. It seemed to me that the police or the security guards who were at that stadium were exaggerating by attacking the Argentine fans, which is why the Argentine goalkeeper intervened so that they could stop that type of hostile treatment against the Argentine fans and unfortunately were injured in the confrontation



source: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz7nICnxIi1/

When we pay attention to this video we can see that the Argentinian fans did not have weapons, they had nothing in their hands that would cause any physical harm to other people, so nothing justifies that action by the Brazilian police, it seems to me that the Brazilian police brazil were driven by feelings of hatred against argentina fans, they forgot that those people were unarmed and that they could solve any problem that those fans caused in another way, this type of photo:



source: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz7jP1KRzTR/?img_index=1

I had already commented in this thread that both teams would not bring anything new in terms of squad, so the result itself was already expected that Argentina would win, I honestly cannot understand why the hell the bookmakers would be giving Brazil as the favorite, I suspect It was just a fact that Brazil played at home at Maracanã, as historically Brazil had not lost at home in World Cup qualifying games, so this led bookmakers to think that even with Brazil's poor performance, they managed leaving this game with a good result, but at the end of the game the result was Brazil's defeat.

Looking at what happened during the game, in my opinion it was a game in which on the field there was a lot of aggression on the part of the Argentine players against the Brazilian players, it seemed to me that the Argentine players were overcome with anger, probably because they saw the police of Brazil attacking Argentine fans, and the referee played a less strict role when fouls were committed by Argentine players but was severe when fouls were committed by Brazilian players. I saw no reason to give the Brazilian player a red card. Anyway, the game ended with Argentina's victory, it's been a while since I've seen Brazil defeat Argentina

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Honestly, I highly doubt that Ancelotti will be Brazil's coach when his contract with real madrid ends, he would tarnish his image if he accepts this job. I have this opinion because Brazil's problem is in the maximum direction of football and I highly doubt that Ancelotti will be able to put Brazilian players in the main team instead of calling the same players as always and when he continues bringing the same players as always they will lose and his reputation will be tarnished, I think it would be more prudent for him to only accept the position if he sees major changes in the maximum direction of Brazilian football

About the odds, on stake.com Brazil was at @2.40 while Argentina was at @2.80, it's not a big difference, but Brazil was still seen as the favorite. Ecuador won, while Peru draw, Venezuela is doing well in the last few games, now they have 5 games without losing, if they improved in attack then they could be in a good position in the table

6th round matches are complete and now everyone will forget about the CONMEBOL qualifiers for another 10-12 months. The reason is that 7th round is scheduled for September 2024. There are no matches in between. I don't understand the scheduling of the qualifier tournament. Why there is so much of a gap? This will only result in fans losing their interest in the matches. All the 10 participating nations will be playing on the 7th match day (even the date is not finalized of yet). As of now, three teams - Chile, Bolivia and Peru are at the bottom of the points table. They will be trying to improve their position.

Many Brazilian fans no longer support Neymar in the national team, and as for the coach, there's a good chance that Ancelotti (Real Madrid) will take over for the Copa America.
Maybe the problems you mentioned will be solved with a foreign coach. Not just because he's not Brazilian, but because he has a different way of managing the team, and of course because of his absurd experience in soccer, knowing practically every European player. There's hope for Brazil, but I know it's hard


Welcome my friend, it's not late since this thread will be active until the last game of qualifying 
As I said above, there's hope for brazilian team with Ancelotti, I think there's a lot to do in the team and a different approach can help
Brazilian coaches are not bad, we have awesome ones like Felipão, Luxemburgo, Tite etc, but a foreigner coach can help brazilian team to play against european squads, maybe it's time to change some things, some players and the way of play


Good analysis, I almost agree with everything, I'd just add that in the Brazil vs Argentina game I think the reality is 33% chance of each result hehehe, it's a balanced and unpredictable game

In addition to the games you mentioned, we also have

Ecuador vs Chile
Peru vs Venezuela

I think Ecuador and Peru are favorites in their games

Tomorrow we will have 5 games.

Paraguay - Colombia

This will be the first game tomorrow, and a game that has good odds, we are talking about odds of 3.45 if Paraguay wins and 2.24 if Colombia wins, when we look at the performance of these two teams in the last 5 games, in my opinion opinion Colombia did better, in the last 5 games Colombia did not lose in any game, even beating Brazil in their last game, in a game in which Colombia managed to score 2 goals and only conceded 1 goal. colombia is a team that has a deficient attack, despite having a good striker like luiz diaz, but luis diaz alone will not make the team win every game, so the other strikers need to commit more . Paraguay's situation is not good, they have been doing poorly in the last 5 games, they have not been able to score goals, we just need to see that in the last 4 games they have only scored 1 goal, but they have been doing well in defense, in the last 6 games only conceded 3 goals. In my opinion this is one of those games where a draw is most likely to happen. I also don't expect him to have more than 3 goals. probably at most we will see 2 goals, which is why betting on Draw No Bet colombia with odds of @1.53 seems like a good choice.

Uruguay - Bolivia

This is a game in which Uruguay comes as the favorite, they have only had 1 defeat in the last 5 games, they have had 4 consecutive victories, and in the last two games Uruguay played against Brazil and won, in a game in which they scored 2 goals and didn't concede any goals, then Uruguay played against Argentina and won, in a game in which they also scored 2 goals and didn't concede any goals. playing against 2 big teams and beating both big teams without conceding a goal, is a great achievement. while the performance of their opponent in tomorrow's game is very poor, in the last 5 games they have won in just 1 game, and it is a team with terrible defense, and when they played against Brazil they conceded 5 goals, against Argentina they conceded 3 goals, what if you can predict an easy victory for Uruguay with 2 or more goals

Brazil - Argentina

This will probably be the game in which all attention will be on him, on Brazil's side I don't expect the coach to bring in any new players, I believe he will call up the same players he has been calling up, the injured players will not be called up and on Argentina's side I also hope to see the same scenario, and it is very difficult to understand what is going on in the heads of the coaches of these two countries, in my last post that I made in this thread I spoke about Brazil, so I don't need to repeat myself, in this one I will talk about Argentina, and it is true that they They won the World Cup, but I feel like they don't give space to other players, for example in the case of Dybala, he is called up but doesn't play, even when the team is winning and there are just a few minutes left, the coach still doesn't play him. Looking at what I expect in this game, despite the bookmakers placing Brazil as the favorite, I see Argentina getting a draw or victory if Di Maria and Lautaro Martinez are in the starting 11, but I have doubts that this will happen. The Argentine coach has many good players, but it seems to me that he prefers players who are on big teams, Messi is a case in which he makes an exception

^re Brazil, I personally thought they really impressed in the last campaign. I watched it with my son (his first proper WC) and my partner who never really saw them and the gukf in quality, they, as people who don't watch football, said they were impressed. And I think for good reason.

Now, I won't disagree Tito took them through some bewildering moments and while Firmino is my fav Brazilian, and did his part en route to the last campaign, him spearheading Brazil was a sign of the times.

I completely agree with you, Brazil has this weird identity that England also has in league football (in general). Limiting their coaches to origin rather than selecting on philosophy.

P.S. Don't know how I missed this gem of a thread, familiar faces in here. Too bad late to the party.

It's been many years since the Brazilian national team has been declining and in my opinion the problem in Brazil's highest football body is that it insists on continuing to employ coaches who are Brazilian even though they haven't shown any trophies they have won with any other main team, This gets to be very funny. It seems that Brazil's football directors just sit in their offices and have no idea of the development of the world today. the players called up to play in Brazil's main team, most of them are players who play outside of Brazil, see that Brazil reached such a regrettable level of calling up Neymar who wasn't playing often because he was coming off an injury and Al's coach - Hilal even said in the press that he found it very strange to see Neymar called up when he saw Neymar injured

This fact happened at the beginning of Neymar's transfer to Al - Hilal, and when we look at the Brazilian team we see that they have players who score goals, when we look at other Brazilian players who play abroad, we see that they have good players. Take the case of Anderson Talisca who plays for Al - Nassr, the guy is a good scorer and is a Brazilian citizen, but they prefer to call up the injured Neymar, who wasn't even playing and they don't call up Anderson Talisca who has been playing and scoring goals constantly.

Is it possible that all Brazilian coaches who become coaches of the main team think the same way to the point of only calling up a small group of certain players every time? It seems to me that this Brazilian team is a lost cause, they won't win the World Cup anytime soon, maybe the day there are changes in management and they hire a foreign coach with the power to call up players he wants, then we'll see Brazil winning the World Cup of the world

You can include me on that list 


He lost both bets, just like me. Sometimes soccer can surprise us
Never in history Colombia win against Brazil in Qualifiers, so, easy bet right?


Yes, there's 6 direct sport to the World Cup + 1 spot to another qualify
I'm sure Brazil and Argentina will qualify, but the championship just become more interest because both teams will need to fight more to be the 1st, and in the case of Brazil, they need to be at least in second place, otherwise people will start to get mad at the team
The next match between Brazil and Argentina promises to be awesome, both teams have lost their last matches, are eternal rivals, playing in a crowded Maracanã, and will be the last match of 2023 

I am skipping betting on this qualifications, because there is really a lot positions that qualify from this group
and one can expect many surprises, because even with four/five loses Argentina and Brasil will surely qualify

so either you chase surprises, or it is better to skip betting on ML here, maybe putting goals could be an opportunity, but not sure about it
all in all, Colombia and Uruguay will qualify side-by-side with Argentina and Brasil, and there is more spots available

Yep crazy results, I wonder how many gamblers in this world are lost on Brazil and Argentina last night.
Well I have a little doubt with Argentina, I was thinking maybe draw is possible but lost 0 - 2 is beyond my wildest imagination on that match.

A friend of mine bet on Argen and Brazil with a decent bet amount, he said it will be impossible for both teams will be lose, so its a safe bets.
When Brazil leading 1 - 0 he placed another bet on it, same with Argen when lose 0-1 .. he bet on Argentina again.