Topic: ⚽ Conmebol Libertadores 2023 - Prediction and Discussion Thread (Read 1178 times)

I wonder how those that got used to betting in the championship feel now that it ended and it'll take some months for a new one to start
must be a feeling of emptiness and lack of meaning
like losing a partner
like finishing a meal that doesn't make you feel full
or not getting any christmas gift...

sad
 

I think I'll leave this thread here for a few more days and close it
If anyone wants to comment, the time is now hehehe

Next year I hope you'll participate more, I always watch and follow the Libertadores, and once again it was a very exciting championship

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Everyone thought (including me) that Palmeiras would be champions, and incredibly they didn't
Boca Juniors, with several draws, went through to the next stages until they eliminated Palmeiras and came second
In my opinion, Fluminense deserved the title

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It's not an easy championship to bet on
The early stages are more predictable, but from the round of 16 onwards, the matches are very difficult to predict, especially if you're playing Brazilian teams against Argentinian or Uruguayan teams

And before I close the topic, I'd like your opinion
Even here on forum, you can see that the Libertadores is very unfamiliar to fans who don't live in South America. What should Conmebol do to attract more attention?
Because in my opinion, this championship could have a lot more attention from the general public, there are very good games, very good teams, balanced games, the famous South American "catimba", players on the rise and so on...

Without a doubt, many of us saw that great final and went to the edge in it, it seems to me that Marcelo deserved it, although wow in Brazil there were many upsets about Fluminense and the Argentines well they gave a lot to talk about, of course I understand the great of being a big fan of a team, but I have to say that sometimes you have to control yourself, this is something that makes us all a little angry seeing what happened even on Copacabana beach , now, I Don't know if it's just a news story fake or something like that, but they were saying that there was a case of doping in Fluminese? Or is it a pure lie , because if so it Could cause a big problem, I don't know to what extent it could be said that the game is eliminated and you have to play it again? I don't think so, right? I'm really waiting because this was news that I saw, but since I was doing something else, I couldn't read it, but I think it's a lie, what I did See a lot and was happy about was Marcelo's reactions.

I think Real Madrid also Congratulated him, CR7 also Congratulated him, but I'm very happy that someone who comes from European Football also triumphs from his Country , from his Local Competitions and in such an important cup like the Libertadores, I also have to do I mention that here Boca did Excellent , but for a moment I thought that things were Going to turn Around , and wow the Brazilian team did give a lot to talk about, they did it excellently and I think that we cannot stop praising them , because there is There are many Who like this type of Competition because you can see the level of football in South America, and clearly the things they can do, the only thing is that in South America there is not as much Support or as much Marketing as they do in Europe , you just have to wait for it. See how the Inercontinental Cup will develop to see how each of the champions can Show themselves, so you can See the world's Trophy in terms of clubs, but for me it is the best thing that can be Done.

Before rdluffy block this topic, congratulations to Fluminense!

The championship final had already been played in the previous round, as Internacional was the strongest team in the championship, so after Fluminense defeated the Colorado team, beating Boca Juniors would be easy indeed

Jokes aside... After more than a decade, this was a title Fluminense was missing and they truly deserved this achievement, they had a great campaign and got great results.

now that the championship ended is it the end of this thread?
these are some cool threads, I hope someone created different ones for future football championships too

discussing sports betting strategies would be interesting as well

I forgot about this thread, I confess that when the game ended I wanted to post in this thread, but I left home and when I came back I was doing other things on the computer and days went by and I forgot to post in this thread, but today I remembered this thread. the cup ended with an unlikely winner, at least in my opinion I saw other teams reaching the final and becoming champions, and I didn't see Fluminense getting far, that's because they have been doing poorly in the Brazilian in the sense of not being a team capable of fight to become champions. but to my surprise they managed to reach the final of this cup and became champions. and a case to say that the performance of teams in internal leagues

They should not be taken into consideration when analyzing the same team that is playing poorly in the domestic league and is going to play in cup games or international games. I don't know if this big difference is due to the different quality of the local leagues in each country. Because of this difference in performance that teams have had in local leagues and in international competitions, I have avoided placing bets on games in international competitions. In any case, congratulations to Fluminense, although 5 days have passed since they won, I still came to congratulate them on their achievement

Ey guys totally forgot this thread, well we reached the end of the Copa Libertadores again and Fluminense becomes the champion.

Fluminense deserves the win Boca was just a mess like they were all the cup, only passing by the penalties and not winning a single game in the H2H.

Ok so I thought I should come back to our little conversation and ask whether you went for it? I am playing in the BSFL if you know that and I chose Boca Juniors as the winner, but didn't work out either. Did you proceed with your bet on Fluminense being the winner in regular time? I hope you didn't! But Fluminsense was a just winner I think as from what I saw they had control over the game. But as we said, these games can get out of control and there were cards en masse.

But these games from the Conmebol Libertadores are really a highlight and in terms of emotional and physical intensity definitely no worse than the European counterparts.

I'mk sorry for that my friend, but your team did a great job, it's a reason to be proud, reach the semi-finals is hard


And to top it all off, Fluminense are practically playing at home in the Maracanã
Even with many Argentinian fans, Flu are used to playing at the Maracanã and that counts for a lot


Don't worry hehehe, I have a bankroll for each competition 


You've mentioned something important: these games often get out of hand, not just emotionally, but physically too
I'm going to take this opportunity to say that this is a big difference between the teams in the Libertadores and those in the Champions League.
The situation in Rio de Janeiro is complicated.
There are an estimated 150,000 Boca Juniors fans in Rio right now. 


Source

There will probably be fights between the fans. The Boca Juniors team asked for protection, and they had to bring in their own security guards from Argentina

It is a super interesting match, but I have been quite careful often times in terms of betting on quite close games in the Libertadores competition. It feels like these games can often get out of control emotionally and then it is hard to predict how it goes. This might just be a subjective feeling I have, but sometimes I think European soccer is a little easier to predict, which doesn't mean it is predictable at all though :p

Going all-in with the bankroll never sounds like a great idea at first, or is this your bankroll specifically for the Libertadores and you could take the loss? No doubt it would be exciting, but hopefully you won't regret it! I think that the Boca Juniors have what it takes to at least make it into overtime and then everything is possible for them as well. If Fluminense doesn't win in regular time, this game will become a coin flip.

I was so discouraged with this championship after Internacional was disqualified, that I didn't even remember to come here in this thread.

However, this does not mean that I stopped following the news, I confess that the mourning has passed and I am very excited to watch the Conmebol Libertadores final.


My bet is also on Fluminense, I know... I should be mad at him, but I'm betting on the odds so I don't lose my money

Fluminense was the leader in group D, which was called by many as "the group of death", as it included River Plate, The Strongest and Sporting Cristal.
To begin with, they beat the Argentines 5-1 at Maracanã, then eliminated Argentinos Juniors in the round of 16, Olimpia in the quarter-finals and Internacional in the semi-final... with a "majestic" comeback in the imposing Beira -River.

Summary... seven wins, three draws and two defeats so far. Only a crazy person would bet against Fluminense.

And tomorrow is the big day.
The Libertadores will end, at the packed Maracanã, Fluminense vs Boca Juniors

Look at the odds

Boca 3.50
Draw 3.25
Fluminense 2.20

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Will anyone be watching and/or betting?
I'm thinking of going all-in with my bankroll that I made during the competition. I've made a nice profit and I'm thinking of finishing with a bet on Fluminense. I'm confident that the team will win the title tomorrow

For those interested, the game will take place tomorrow at 5pm Brasilia time, or 20h UTC (8pm).

I'm devastated by this result from Internacional!

I don't think anyone will be able to explain to me how a team that was doing so well in the championship, even defeated River Plate... how can they lose the game when it's practically over? Was it so difficult to hold on to victory playing at home?
Honestly... this is something incomprehensible to me.

But, this isn't the first time that Internacional has disappointed, so I should actually be used to it by now
He creates this illusion in the fans to betray us when we are almost reaching the cup.
It was like that in the Fifa World Cup in 2010, and in the defeat suffered against Grêmio in 2015 and more recently in 2021 against Olimpia also in the Conmebol Libertadores.

Anyway, it was good while it lasted, but now the objective is to focus on the Brazilian championship (Brasilerão).

brazil's traditional club fluminense from rio de janeiro has reached the final of the copa libertadores. the team won 2-1 away against internacional porto alegre (after a 2-2 draw in the first leg). the 2-1 victory was scored in the 87th minute by German Cano.
this is only the second time that fluminense has reached the final of the south american equivalent of the european champions league, having lost to ldu from the ecuadorian capital quito in 2008

just curious here but what sports booking website is this screenshot from?

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interesting, not so common to see that many draws
sports books must be celebrating because situations like that (going against the odds) are usually good for them, I suppose.

The games were so difficult that all three ended in draws hehehe 

Corinthians 1 vs 1 Fortaleza
Fluminese 2 vs 2 Internacional
Boca Juniors 0 vs 0 Palmeiras

But without a doubt the Inter vs Fluminense game was the best of them all, I really enjoyed watching it, chances at every minute, teams playing well, playing to win and not defensively
I think Inter have the best chance to qualify to the final, it looks like you're going to have to buy tickets to watch the Libertadores final anyway @alegotardo 

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Palmeiras also got a good result with a draw at La Bombonera. Now they willdecide at home, and it's not that complicated since Boca aren't even playing well, as they showed yesterday

As a curiosity, I was going to bet on Fluminense winning that first match, but I had problems with the internet and I simply couldn't access it for a few hours. I missed my chance, but it was the best thing that happened, since I was going to lose that bet because it ended in a draw hehe, the (lack of) Internet saved me 

I'm still believing in Palmeiras' victory in the game that's happening now, I hope they qualify and face Internacional in the championship final.

Speaking of Internacional.... what game he played against Fluminense, did you see? There were high emotions in the 4 goals of the match.
The final will be in Beira Rio, at Internacional house, and obviously I am confident and betting on Colorado's victory.

This championship started without me having much confidence in my team, but that has certainly changed.

Internacional and Palmeiras, that's my guess for the championship final.

Unfortunately, this is quite common in Brazil. Events like this happen every year.
It's not uncommon for players to suffer direct threats from fans, and this year, a few months ago, Luan, who played for Corinthians (now at Grêmio), was attacked by fans who were disgusted with his performance, here you can see the news



Talking about Palmeiras and Corinthians, there are 3 great matches to watch in south american soccer

Today in Sudamericana Cup:
Corinthians vs Fortaleza

Tomorow - Libertadores:
Fluminese vs Internacional

The day after tomorrow - Libertadores
Boca Juniors vs Palmeiras

What are your bets guys?

Well, the thing about amateurs is something very common because it is like that, I think that in all the countries of the world they have that problem, in my country when Táchira vs Caracas plays, which is the classic of the tournament, on one occasion the people from Táchira burned the bus where The Caracas team is tranalized and these are things that should not be allowed, at the level of Brazilian football what you say is true, it is that Corinthias has surprised a lot in terms of its football, because I consider that this team is also one of the most strong in Brazil, but Palmeiras is one of the most focused on getting results, I don't know how they do it, but with Btrasil they look like playing machines, the level is very high, now as for the Libertadores championship, it is something that It gives us a lot to think about, it is normal for a Brazilian or Argentine team to arrive, it is very normal, for that reason every time Palmeiras, Corinthias, Santos play, well for me it is exciting, because these players do Incredible things, the dribbling, everything they do is a combination of Jogo Bonito.

Palmeiras' facial recognition on match tickets helps police arrest criminals




Source: https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/palmeiras-facial-recognition-match-tickets-helps-police-arrest-criminals-2023-09-23/?rpc=401&

I do like that technology can be used to search for criminals, things cannot go unpunished, these types of acts can result in injuring many people and even causing deaths, so technology can stop them from doing this anymore. type of acts, these things tarnish football, sometimes they can cause the same team to be sanctioned without need, then it is not possible that because of a few they do this type of things, it has happened that in teams where the fans behave badly because the most The affected is the team, there are confederations that are very Severe with this type of punishment and it is not due to a lack of the team but of teaching them, so they are very unfair causes, I think that sometimes the security entities fail a lot here, and that is something that cannot be allowed, when they are very important parties, parties that include great rivalries, because it is Something that cannot be allowed to do any type of thing that is a nest of vandalism.

Unfortunately, I have to admit that Palmeiras really are the best-prepared Brazilian team at the moment. It's the best option to represent Brazil.
And it's hard to say because my team Corinthians is Palmeiras' biggest opponent


This is a very bad thing that happens in Brazil. And even more so in the case of Palmeiras, where the team is doing well in the championships, yet some fans complain and have bad attitudes
There are "organized supporters" in Brazil, where many fans get carried away, lose their temper and threaten players, or fight with other supporters, it's unfortunate


It's the financial disadvantage, at least in my opinion
Even with top-level players in Brazil, European teams manage to sign all the best players in the world, so the best Brazilians are in Europe, and every Brazilian player's dream is to play for a European team. The level is different, yes, but there are still some teams from the American continent who manage to achieve this feat, such as my Corinthians, who have won the FIFA World Cup twice hehehe, the last time being in 2012 against Chelsea