Topic: ⚽ Conmebol Libertadores 2023 - Prediction and Discussion Thread - page 4. (Read 1178 times)

Today is an important day for my team Corinthians, starts the round of 16 of the Copa Sudamericana, against Newell's Old Boys from Argentina
The odds are very good for the 3 matches today

I will bet on Corinthians victory

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There's also 3 matches of Libertadores

Argentinos Juniors x Fluminense
Bolivar x Athletico PR
River Plate x Internacional (hey @alegotardo, where are you? hehe)

Good duels between Argentinians and Brazilians
Are you following guys? Just watching or betting too?

They were good games yesterday
I managed to get both bets right, on America and Corinthians
I would not have thought that America would win 5-1, although I know that the team plays very well, I thought that Colo Colo would be more prepared to play here in Brazil

About the Corinthians match, it was extremely difficult, despite 2-1, the Universitario team played well and trying to attack as much as possible with lots of pressure all the time
There was a lot of confusion during the game, there were 5 red cards in total. The match was really a South American soccer match

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Today has 3 more matches for the Sudamericana, but today's macthes are not so good to bet in my opinion, maybe the Botafogo match goals over 2.75 paying 1.73 because the team is really strong, but maybe they don't go all in to spare some players

There's no winning team that doesn't constitute a big fan base, supporting system was always the major objective from the very start. Boca Juniors is an elite club with high competitive players, there were capable of doing extreme measures inother to lift the significant trophies. Juan Romàn Riquelme record a stellar performance at Boca Juniors, he earned accolades while playing for the Xeneize, he was one of the big names that period. The league seems to be more interesting, although they're not more popular than the european football, but I believe in few years, things will definitely get better.

Im seeing right now, but better to say following the games trought the apps, and what a destroy make America MG to Colo Colo, i dont expect such a easy win.

And now Estudiantes its destroying also Barcelona, i dont expect this one also.

Corinthians, until now not showing their are a brazilian team, normally they can be 3-0 win easy against any peruvian team.

Since my Corinthians did not qualify for the next stage of the Libertadores, and this kind of South American topic does not have as many posts as the European championships, I will also post here about the Copa Sudamericana.

A very cool and important detail: the champion of the Sulamericana will face the champion of the Europa League, maybe attract more attention to the soccer of South America.

There will be 3 games today, with the following odds:



I think there is a good chance that America MG will win this game, playing at home. The team is very good and last weekend almost took Corinthians out of the Copa do Brasil
If the team plays the same way, it can win
Corinthians will play away from home, but at least they have the advantage of having won at home by 1-0, I think I'll do Draw no Bet betting on Corinthians, paying 2.23

Hi Luckmcfly, yes how can forget Riquelme when im argentinian?. One of the best players to play with shirt number 10 or like a lot of people says "the last 10".

I remember that goal on Libertadores 2007 finals against Gremio.

WHAT A GOAL

The last Libertadores cup championship for Boca Jrs.

Well, I can't say less, these teams from Brazil and Argentina are the ones that put themselves in context the most to be able to do many things, Corinthians misses me, they are one of the toughest teams there are, personally I think that here are the ones that most The dominate are the teams from Brazil and Argentina, the Colombian teams are also very good, but of course compared to the others the level of football is superior, we also cannot leave out the teams from Venezuela, there are only a couple that always stand out , such as Deportivo Táchira and Caracas FC, are very good teams that show their faces.

Now, if we go further south, we cannot forget that the Paraguayan teams, which are very tough, are really great teams and are very seasoned.

Well Boca Jr is one of the most emblematic and good teams in Argentina, in fact I don't know if you remember when Riquelme was there, wow he did some amazing things there, also the Bombonera stadium is another level, one of the things that I love the most They like the Argentine teams like Boca and River are their fans and the songs are very good, also the rivalry between these teams is unique, I would not really see Boca and River in a stadium because I feel that it would scare me, there live that passion at the level of the Hooligans, it is something that wow.

Also as they have come, Palmeiras awaits Boca, which is one of the toughest teams in Brazil and with the most history or Flamengo, that is , super early finals , this Libertadores Cup like all of them is getting very good.

Libertadores matches are always difficult haha
There are some teams that are bad in the national championships, but play very well in the Libertadores, an example is Boca Juniors itself, always feared by the Brazilians, no matter the situation.

The side/group where Boca Juniors stayed has Palmeiras as the strongest team in my opinion, and the other side has Flamengo, but I think both sides/groups are balanced.

You said about Palmeiras x Atlético MG, and I think Palmeiras can win without so much trouble
I'm trying to make my predictions for each match, and it's hard because there was easier groups like group H where Olimpia was and classified in 1st place, but look at group D, I think it was the toughest one, so it's hard to predict in the round of 16.

I was late to comment again

I cant believe the luck Boca Juniors side on this Libertadores, they had the most easy group of all the cup and now they have the most easy draft until semifinals.

The only bad thing they have its.... yes themselves, they are a very bad team right now. So if Palmeiras surprases Mineiro we can see Palmeiras again in the final, sadly.

River has a very rough way....

And no before you ask, no im not from Boca or River hahaha

Thanks alegotardo!
Since my Corinthians didn't qualify for the round of 16, I'll give my support to your Internacional hahaha, I don't want to see Palmeiras or Flamengo champions again

Looking at the two sides of the matches, both are extremely tough, I think all the macthes will be equilibrated

The first leg matches will be played on August 01, 02 and 03, so we don't have the odds yet, but looking at the matches, I think I can make a good profit with the bets
I will analyze each confrontation and make my list of probable classified until the final, but I can already say that it may be a final between Palmeiras and Flamengo again 

Inter will face a tough team, but not impossible one, Fluminese won 5 x 1 playing at home, and lost in Argentina 0 x 2, the key is try to win 2 x 0 in home and try a draw in Argentina

As rdluffy had already advanced, Conmebol defined all the 2023 Libertadores clashes, from the round of 16 to the dispute of the grand final (depending on the winners).
These will be the next matches:

• Atlético Nacional vs Racing
• Nacional vs Boca Juniors
• Deportivo Pereira vs Independiente del Valle
• Atlético-MG vs Palmeiras
• Flamengo vs Olimpia
• Argentine Juniors vs Fluminense
• River Plate vs Internacional
• Bolivar vs Athletico PR

The image below also illustrates the keying of the following games:

River Plate and Internacional.... a super-classic!!!
I'm really looking forward to this game.

Argentina has 25 Libertadores titles, while Brazil has 23.
In the last 4 years the champions have been Brazilian, and the last 3 finals were with Brazilian teams.
This reflects the crisis that Argentina is going through, where several players have gone to play in other countries, including Brazil.


I think that even if we manage to play in the Copa Sulamericana, Corinthians will not get very far, the team is still too bad.
When I thought he was getting better, he had a couple of very good games, but he repeated the same mistakes and lost again.


I agree, Europe attracts almost all the best players, it is very hard to compete with the salaries they pay, and not only that, Europe is every player's dream.

Brazil still managed to attract some players who were in Europe, but because they are at the end of their careers, 34 years old or older, or players who didn't do well over there, such as Gabriel Barbosa, and Cebolinha from Flamengo, Paulinho from Corinthians, among others.

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Remembering that tomorrow, July 5th, the draw for the round of 16 will take place, we will know which will be the paths of each team.
The draw will be held at 16h UTC

Yes, you're right!
I have no doubt, Palmeiras will focus on Libertadores, because in Brasileirao they will be able to recover during the year, because the Brazilian championship will end in november/december

Yes and its gonna be worst, Brazil domiantes like nothing because they have the economic power right now ,and Argentina its in a "crisis".

The other thing its no team can make a solid base, so they can have good flow or football, they sell the good players to europe so fast or to other teams, so its very difficult.

One example its Uruguay, years ago Uruguay teams like Nacional or Peñarol were always important and very rough to win, but now they are crap. The last good participation on Libertadores from an Uruguayan team was the Peñarol who lost the final against the Santos of Neymar.

It is not surprising that they could not qualify for the next round considering their poor performance in the league this season, currently they are only 15th in the Brazilian Serie A standings while the other teams that still progress to the next round are in the top 10 of the standings.


The Libertadores have been dominated for the past 6 seasons by clubs from Brazil and Argentina, don't expect more teams like Atletico Nacional from Colombia to become champions again.

Corinthians is the only Brasilian club that wasn't qualified for next round of Copa Libertadores and will have to settle to Copa Sudamericana

within other countries, only Colombia will have two teams, Equador, Paraquay and Uruguay one, and all other are from Brasil and Argentina, seems as domination

Finally Corinthians did a good match on Libertadores, unfortunately is too late, but at least they secure the classification to Sul Americana Cup.
And I'm glad I did a small bet on Corinthians 


To be honest, I did a small amount of money in my bet, I was confident, but not too much hehehe


Corinthians is having a crisis, after coach Victor Pereira left Corinthians to Flamengo, the team took a deep dive in crisis, but at least now they got a good coach and slowly thing can get to normal again, but unfortunately out of Libertadores. At least they got the chance to continue in Sul Americana Cup.


When I saw the result I remembered you hahaha, congratulations, Inter is classified
I hope you bet on your team and got some money too 


I think Palmeiras will maintain a good performance on Libertadores, since they lost 2 games on Brasileiro and now wil, focus mainly on Libertadores. At least I expect this behavior from the team and sounds logical.
Palmeiras did the best campaign in group phase

I didn't watch the game, but I saw the highlights/best moments of the Palmeiras x Bolivar game.

I was surprised with the result, I imagine that Palmeiras would win the game, but they scored 4 goals and won that game against Bolivar.

Another interesting game was Boca Juniors vs. Monagas.
Boca Juniors also won easily.

My question is... will these teams that had a significant victory will be able to maintain this excellent performance in the next games?

I watched the best moments of this last Independiente del Valle game and it seems to me that both teams were very balanced at the beginning of the game.

But in fact, Independiente seem to have extra strength in this championship and Díaz's goal, in addition to being very beautiful (a strong and accurate grip on the ball that swelled the net with force) must have been the point that marked the right moment for Independiente improve their position on the field and come back stronger in the second half.

Although Independiente still conceded two goals (one of them at the very end of the second half), it seemed to me that they dominated the game better and deserved this victory.

Speaking of Internacional... he also beat Independiente Medellín by 3x1 and secured his classification (still undefeated)

Im late on comment here, because all the groups doesnt have so much drama in the end.

Yes really good odds thinking on Corinthians against Liverpool (u), the only thing because i dont put money on it was because Corinthians Santos and other teams from Brazil are making a really bad run in international cup(i dont understand why).

The team that doesnt stop surpirsing me its Independiente del Valle..... man that guys its something really strange, every year they make a epic tournament since the time when they reach the final of Libertadores in 2016. And their teams are not good in term of names, because in them play a lot of players from Argentina who came from the third division for example.