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April 29, 2024, 06:39:34 AM
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BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

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It is very strange what the goalkeeper did, it could also be that the goalkeeper was filled with a lot of nerves and fell, it is something that can happen, but at the level of a Copa Libertadores de América, type of nerves, because it was not seen that It may have been a slip, sometimes goalkeepers can suffer from things like this, maybe things can be very different in a game like this, Flamenco is a team that is one of the best clubs in Brazil, they should not fail, But considering that we are human, nervousness, all this influences, but the shot that the goalkeeper actually gave looked very bad.


If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.
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April 27, 2024, 11:04:35 PM
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BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

As expected from Flamengo, they lost and they always use something to justify the defeat, and this time they blamed the altitude. as if that would be a convincing justification. It is an undeniable fact that Flamengo is not performing well in this competition, in 3 games they only had 1 win, 1 draw and 1 defeat. I don't know what Flamengo's coach is thinking. In Brazil they played 3 games in which they won 2 games and drew 1 game and are currently in second place. but in 3 games they only managed to score 4 goals in the Brazilian league and conceded 2 goals. It's not a good performance for a team that wants to become champions.

In Brasileirao's last game they managed to draw with Palmeiras, but a victory would have been the best thing, because Palmeiras is a team that can start badly in the league, they can even perform poorly in many of the first games, but after the middle During the season they start to play well and become champions, which is why the sooner Flamengo distances itself from Palmeiras, beats Palmeiras, the better for Flamengo. Something funny I saw in this game between Flamengo and Bolivar was this:



If Flamengo's goalkeeper hadn't fallen early, then he would have had a better chance of saving that ball. but unfortunately he couldn't save that ball. Will Flamengo really be able to get far in this competition?

It is very strange what the goalkeeper did, it could also be that the goalkeeper was filled with a lot of nerves and fell, it is something that can happen, but at the level of a Copa Libertadores de América, type of nerves, because it was not seen that It may have been a slip, sometimes goalkeepers can suffer from things like this, maybe things can be very different in a game like this, Flamenco is a team that is one of the best clubs in Brazil, they should not fail, But considering that we are human, nervousness, all this influences, but the shot that the goalkeeper actually gave looked very bad.
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April 27, 2024, 08:14:41 PM
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BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

As expected from Flamengo, they lost and they always use something to justify the defeat, and this time they blamed the altitude. as if that would be a convincing justification. It is an undeniable fact that Flamengo is not performing well in this competition, in 3 games they only had 1 win, 1 draw and 1 defeat. I don't know what Flamengo's coach is thinking. In Brazil they played 3 games in which they won 2 games and drew 1 game and are currently in second place. but in 3 games they only managed to score 4 goals in the Brazilian league and conceded 2 goals. It's not a good performance for a team that wants to become champions.

In Brasileirao's last game they managed to draw with Palmeiras, but a victory would have been the best thing, because Palmeiras is a team that can start badly in the league, they can even perform poorly in many of the first games, but after the middle During the season they start to play well and become champions, which is why the sooner Flamengo distances itself from Palmeiras, beats Palmeiras, the better for Flamengo. Something funny I saw in this game between Flamengo and Bolivar was this:



If Flamengo's goalkeeper hadn't fallen early, then he would have had a better chance of saving that ball. but unfortunately he couldn't save that ball. Will Flamengo really be able to get far in this competition?

It's true, Flamengo isn't playing like a team that wants to be champions plays.

The complaint about altitude is a lame excuse. If the team had won, would they talk about altitude? I don't think so, it's another justification without credibility.

Did this Flamengo goalkeeper try to guess the move? weird, right? he fell too early instead of advancing a little to close the attacker's angle... Simply horrible, I think if I had been there I would have been able to save that shot.
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April 26, 2024, 11:26:29 AM
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BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

As expected from Flamengo, they lost and they always use something to justify the defeat, and this time they blamed the altitude. as if that would be a convincing justification. It is an undeniable fact that Flamengo is not performing well in this competition, in 3 games they only had 1 win, 1 draw and 1 defeat. I don't know what Flamengo's coach is thinking. In Brazil they played 3 games in which they won 2 games and drew 1 game and are currently in second place. but in 3 games they only managed to score 4 goals in the Brazilian league and conceded 2 goals. It's not a good performance for a team that wants to become champions.

In Brasileirao's last game they managed to draw with Palmeiras, but a victory would have been the best thing, because Palmeiras is a team that can start badly in the league, they can even perform poorly in many of the first games, but after the middle During the season they start to play well and become champions, which is why the sooner Flamengo distances itself from Palmeiras, beats Palmeiras, the better for Flamengo. Something funny I saw in this game between Flamengo and Bolivar was this:



If Flamengo's goalkeeper hadn't fallen early, then he would have had a better chance of saving that ball. but unfortunately he couldn't save that ball. Will Flamengo really be able to get far in this competition?
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April 26, 2024, 08:27:29 AM
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There are 4 Libertadores matches today, take a look at the odds

Today I was thinking about watching the international game for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, but I looked at the time the game was going to take place and I almost couldn't believe it... It will start at 11pm. There will be time to watch the Libertadores games.

Does anyone know if there is a topic about the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, I'm thinking about creating one.

If you create the thread, I'll participate
It's the only international competition Corinthians will participate in (and lose a lot of games) this year, so I'll bet against my own team and win some money hehehehe

Don't forget to let us know here if you create the thread



Yesterday I bet on São Paulo and Fluminense
I lost the Fluminense bet, but won the São Paulo one. I ended up with practically the same amount of money, at least I didn't lose  Tongue
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April 25, 2024, 07:16:51 PM
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I'm very late here, I only just saw this thread.

The reason for this is because I'm not really following this championship even though I really like football.... last year Internacional invested a lot of money in trying to be champions, they defeated important opponents but ended up losing to a Brazilian team in an incomprehensible way.
This year, he didn't even qualify for the Libertadores Tongue

Today I was thinking about watching the international game for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, but I looked at the time the game was going to take place and I almost couldn't believe it... It will start at 11pm. There will be time to watch the Libertadores games.

Does anyone know if there is a topic about the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, I'm thinking about creating one.

Exactly!!!!
I'm following this championship and I believe we will have another victory here. But, that's a topic for another topic (is there a topic about Sul-Amerciana here?).

Ah... I've been reading that this year Conmebol will pay the biggest prize in the world for a competitive tournament... no less than US$ 23,000,000 Shocked

Good luck to everyone!
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April 25, 2024, 05:59:32 PM
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There are 4 Libertadores matches today, take a look at the odds

Today I was thinking about watching the international game for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, but I looked at the time the game was going to take place and I almost couldn't believe it... It will start at 11pm. There will be time to watch the Libertadores games.

Does anyone know if there is a topic about the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, I'm thinking about creating one.
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April 25, 2024, 02:31:23 PM
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It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

The Libertadores games are very difficult, the teams give their all, especially because a player doing well in this championship can get good contracts, salary increases, everything is possible financially, money moves the world, right? lol

Yesterday Flamengo lost playing in Bolivia... and as always the players complaining about playing at altitude (3600m above sea level), if they had won, would they complain that much?

I think it's very hard to predict this games while they are in group stages but yesterday Bolivar were favorites against Flamengo and they won. I agree with altitude when you play football as it's not great at all to to have fresh air , especially when you're not used to it. However ,I do enjoy watching this games with native commentary as that is the way you can feel the true South American football passion and I love when they scream "goal" for more than 40 seconds  Grin
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April 25, 2024, 01:26:48 PM
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If they had won I am sure no one would say a thing about such altitude as what is important in the end of the day are the three points.I think Flamengo needs to do better as in the new Serie A in Brazil are looking relatively in good performance and for sure the Brazilian league is of better quality than the Bolivian league.I think it was a surprise result that Flamengo lost and complaining about high altitude is just a justification to them not being able to win the game.

It's funny because every year we have the same problems hahaha
Look at my thread of Libertadores 2023: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447531.80

The altitude, especially in games in Bolivia, becomes a frequent discussion, and especially for Brazilian teams, since we don't have that kind of terrain here
The Libertadores is very special because of this kind of rivalry, the altitude, the famous Argentinian and Uruguayan "catimba", the crowded La Bombonera (of Boca Juniors), etc.
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April 25, 2024, 09:57:54 AM
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It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

The Libertadores games are very difficult, the teams give their all, especially because a player doing well in this championship can get good contracts, salary increases, everything is possible financially, money moves the world, right? lol

Yesterday Flamengo lost playing in Bolivia... and as always the players complaining about playing at altitude (3600m above sea level), if they had won, would they complain that much?

If they had won I am sure no one would say a thing about such altitude as what is important in the end of the day are the three points.I think Flamengo needs to do better as in the new Serie A in Brazil are looking relatively in good performance and for sure the Brazilian league is of better quality than the Bolivian league.I think it was a surprise result that Flamengo lost and complaining about high altitude is just a justification to them not being able to win the game.
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April 25, 2024, 09:52:53 AM
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There are 4 Libertadores matches today, take a look at the odds

If you believe in the Brazilian teams, you have a good chance of making some money
I'm thinking of betting on São Paulo and Fluminense to win, but I'm betting low since the Brazilian teams have started very badly in the Libertadores.



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Will anyone be placing any bets today?
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April 25, 2024, 06:52:25 AM
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It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

The Libertadores games are very difficult, the teams give their all, especially because a player doing well in this championship can get good contracts, salary increases, everything is possible financially, money moves the world, right? lol

Yesterday Flamengo lost playing in Bolivia... and as always the players complaining about playing at altitude (3600m above sea level), if they had won, would they complain that much?
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April 24, 2024, 12:39:50 PM
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It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.
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April 11, 2024, 06:52:21 AM
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what is even stranger is that these same players from South America who have been playing in the South American leagues and play in a strangely elegant way in the leagues of their countries and go to Europe, they start to play very well in Europe and even run very. This is something I always ask myself because they don't try very hard in the South American leagues and when they are playing for European teams they play very well. Maybe because in Europe they realize that there are many other good players and if they try hard they can have a lot of fame and money so they try hard to play well. I could be wrong in my way of thinking


I think your way of thinking makes sense, when they reach a European team they are just “one more”, so they have to work hard to have “their place in the sun”, unlike what happens when they are in leagues in their countries of origin, countries where they are already considered stars and most of the time they have no competition... In Europe they have to show their service, otherwise they are left out, unlike what happens in other leagues.

You got both your predictions right, Atlético and Cerro Porteno won  Shocked


In today's matches we have Botafogo vs LDU at altitude, I think LDU wins... and also Palmeiras vs Liverpool in São Paulo, I believe Palmeiras will win without any major difficulties....

Any guesses for the other games?
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April 10, 2024, 10:55:08 PM
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Fluminense had a very difficult game against Colo-Colo, as current champions, they will be the team to beat, everyone will want to know exactly how Fluminense behaves on the field.

And what a beautiful goal Fluminense's first was, it even reminded me of my goals playing FIFA 22 lol

I'm going to take advantage of the fact that I'm a little sick and I'm not going to the gym and try to watch tomorrow's games, Flamengo will be broadcast on TV Globo
wow, good thinking!
I didn't remember that Flamengo's game was broadcast on TV Globo.
But anyway, it was an excellent game for Flamengo who had an easy victory against Palestino. Sao Paulo also stood out and beat Cobresal.

I'm looking forward to watch the Palmeiras game tomorrow, I have no doubt it will be an exciting game to watch.
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April 10, 2024, 03:39:21 PM
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It seems that the Brazilian teams were unlucky in this round, Flamengo drew in the game against Millionaires, in a game in which the Millionaires player received a red card in the 61st minute and thanks to that, Flamengo benefited from a penalty and scored a goal. , but even though Flamengo was playing with 11 players while their opponent was playing with only 10 players, Flamengo still couldn't win that game, they conceded 1 goal and the game ended in a draw, Flamengo played very badly, There's no quality, the way they played was horrible, when I see this kind of thing:




That shot on goal was horrible, really bad...

I find it impressive that a professional player makes this mistake, after all he trains every day, he is accompanied by professionals from the most diverse areas of the sport, this player's only concern is playing ball, everything else has someone doing for him. .. and the individual misses the shot, any small child playing football in the street would score that goal... Very bizarre.

I hope that in the next rounds the level of football improves, because as you said, it was very bad. But the intensity of Europe is something that won't happen in the Libertadores, the style is very different, South American teams don't have the tactical quality of European teams.

what is even stranger is that these same players from South America who have been playing in the South American leagues and play in a strangely elegant way in the leagues of their countries and go to Europe, they start to play very well in Europe and even run very. This is something I always ask myself because they don't try very hard in the South American leagues and when they are playing for European teams they play very well. Maybe because in Europe they realize that there are many other good players and if they try hard they can have a lot of fame and money so they try hard to play well. I could be wrong in my way of thinking



Atlético - Rosario

This is a game in which Atletico will play at home and they need to take advantage of this advantage. In the last 10 games Atletico lost in just 1 game. I don't know how difficult the games were or not, but it's a fact that they only had 1 defeat in the last 10 games. while their opponent in the last 10 games they lost in 5 games. and comes into this game with a defeat. I think that in this game Atletico will win, the odds for Atletico to win are 1.45, I still see it as a low odds. but if it was above 1.70 I would probably bet on Atletico.

Cerro Porteño - Alianza Lima

This is a very complicated game to predict the result, both teams are coming off a defeat in that competition. Cerro Porteño are doing well in the Paraguayan league, in the last 5 games they have only had 1 defeat and are in second place in the table, they are a candidate for the Paraguayan league title at the moment, maybe later things will change and they will not be candidates to the title. while in the case of Alianza Lima, in the last 5 games they only had 2 victories, they have already gone through bad times when they had a sequence of 3 defeats, but from what I see they managed to recover and have two consecutive victories and in the league Peru, they still have a chance to fight for the title. In my opinion, Cerro Porteño will win this game
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April 10, 2024, 06:50:28 AM
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The second round of the Libertadores group stage has already started.

Fluminense had a great victory against Colo-Colo and took first place in Group A of the Libertadores.

Later we will have Flamengo x Palestino game and also Sao Paulo x Cobresal.
And tomorrow we will have some interesting games, such as Palmeiras x Liverpool and River Plate x Nacional.

Is anyone else watching some games!?

Fluminense had a very difficult game against Colo-Colo, as current champions, they will be the team to beat, everyone will want to know exactly how Fluminense behaves on the field.

And what a beautiful goal Fluminense's first was, it even reminded me of my goals playing FIFA 22 lol

I'm going to take advantage of the fact that I'm a little sick and I'm not going to the gym and try to watch tomorrow's games, Flamengo will be broadcast on TV Globo
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April 09, 2024, 11:20:17 PM
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The second round of the Libertadores group stage has already started.

Fluminense had a great victory against Colo-Colo and took first place in Group A of the Libertadores.

Later we will have Flamengo x Palestino game and also Sao Paulo x Cobresal.
And tomorrow we will have some interesting games, such as Palmeiras x Liverpool and River Plate x Nacional.

Is anyone else watching some games!?
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April 07, 2024, 06:57:58 PM
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What will be missing? because as @rdluffy said, only Atlético MG had a good result... is there a lack of study of opponents? perhaps some deficiency in the scouting teams of the Brazilian teams, identifying the possible weaknesses of the opponents and training this before the matches.
Hmm...that's an interesting question.
I believe there are some variables that may have affected the performance of some teams, for example the start of the championship.
As there are teams from different countries in South America, each one has a "different playing style", different stadiums and sometimes the altitude can be a problem for some teams that are not used to playing at high altitudes.

I imagine that during the championship the teams may get used to it and their performance may improve, especially the Brazilian teams.

There is also the season for the South American teams that starts well before the Brazilian championship, so while the Brazilian teams are playing pre-season and state championships, the other teams have already been playing in the main league for at least 2 months... for the pace of the game this makes all the difference
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April 07, 2024, 05:04:45 AM
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What will be missing? because as @rdluffy said, only Atlético MG had a good result... is there a lack of study of opponents? perhaps some deficiency in the scouting teams of the Brazilian teams, identifying the possible weaknesses of the opponents and training this before the matches.
Hmm...that's an interesting question.
I believe there are some variables that may have affected the performance of some teams, for example the start of the championship.
As there are teams from different countries in South America, each one has a "different playing style", different stadiums and sometimes the altitude can be a problem for some teams that are not used to playing at high altitudes.

I imagine that during the championship the teams may get used to it and their performance may improve, especially the Brazilian teams.
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