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Quote from: criptoevangelista on September 27, 2024, 05:53:56 AM

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Penarol - Flamengo

honestly, I don't see Flamengo winning this game

And they really didn't win. The key match for this confrontation was the game in Rio de Janeiro, in which Flamengo once again played very poorly and arrived in Uruguay with a serious disadvantage. Throughout the Copa Libertadores, Flamengo's team played mediocre football and didn't play like a team that wants to be champion. The result is there: eliminated from the Libertadores and doing poorly in the Brazilian championship. It seems like this is the beginning of the end for coach Tite as Flamengo's commander. All the structure and money available and the guy can't do a good job. Everything he did was just average and when he needed to win, he couldn't.

In my opinion, Brazilians have talented players, but they have terrible coaches. Tite has his achievements, but he hasn't achieved much with different teams very often. So he's not the kind of coach that Flamengo should have high expectations of. If Flamengo's goal was, for example, to have a coach who would avoid being in the relegation zone in the Brazilian Championship or to go as far as possible in the Libertadores, then I would say that Tite would be suitable. But when you think about winning titles, then I don't see Tite being suitable. Even if they gave Tite 3 or 5 years at Flamengo to create a winning team, I don't think he would produce good results. And everything gets worse because at Flamengo in 2019, when Jorge Jesus won the Brazilian Championship and the Libertadores, he made the board and the fans start demanding titles from all the coaches who arrived after Jorge Jesus. So I think Tite will be fired soon

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Quote from: Slow death on September 26, 2024, 02:29:51 PM

Penarol - Flamengo

honestly, I don't see Flamengo winning this game

And they really didn't win. The key match for this confrontation was the game in Rio de Janeiro, in which Flamengo once again played very poorly and arrived in Uruguay with a serious disadvantage. Throughout the Copa Libertadores, Flamengo's team played mediocre football and didn't play like a team that wants to be champion. The result is there: eliminated from the Libertadores and doing poorly in the Brazilian championship. It seems like this is the beginning of the end for coach Tite as Flamengo's commander. All the structure and money available and the guy can't do a good job. Everything he did was just average and when he needed to win, he couldn't.

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Well, the result of yesterday's game left me surprised

Sao Paulo 1 - 1 Botafogo

Botafogo scored an early goal and it seemed like everything was going well for them to leave the game with a victory. After scoring a goal, Botafogo began to waste good opportunities to score a second goal. Luckily for them, they were doing very well in defense. They managed to prevent Sao Paulo's attackers from scoring a goal. They were even lucky that the Sao Paulo player missed a penalty. And the first half ended with Botafogo winning. But in the second half, Sao Paulo dominated the game. It seemed like Botafogo had no interest in winning the game. Botafogo did not cause any danger to Sao Paulo's defense, and after wasting so many opportunities, Sao Paulo finally scored an equalizer and won the game on penalties.

Today's game:

Penarol - Flamengo

honestly, I don't see Flamengo winning this game

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A true tragedy and may God give him paradise and his family the patience needed in such circumstances, it was not enough it looks the fact that Luis Suarez decided to dedicate him his goals with Inter Miami when he was fighting at that hospital and that is life which sometimes can become very sad from one moment that no one expects it. What impresses me most is how come these doctors in sport clubs make a blind eye when doing their medical visits to these players, it reminds me the first time I saw such happening and I was shocked and it was at 2007 if I remember correctly when Mariano Puerta (don't remember his name really but he was a Sevilla player) that died on pitch and the medics accepted they knew but they did a blind eye in order not to kill a dream yet they don't realize that they are killing a human being by doing so. For me all the fault is on the medics, I highly doubt they are so incompetent as not to see when some guy has problems with his heart or any other danger he may has if he plays football.

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Unfortunately, player Juan Manuel Izquierdo, from Nacional-URU, died at the Albert Einstein hospital in São Paulo. The player fell ill at the end of the match against São Paulo in the Copa Libertadores. It was a very sad situation. The player had small children. The scene of him staggering and falling on the pitch was quite shocking... It is worth remembering that this is the second tragedy of this type to occur in São Paulo games. The first was the death of São Caetano defender Serginho in 2004. Very, very sad.

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/sao-paulo/noticia/2024/08/27/izquierdo-jogador-do-nacional-uru-morre-em-sao-paulo.ghtml

https://x.com/Nacional/status/1828606877048950830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1828606877048950830%7Ctwgr%5Ea2d0fc962df1a3a0e0260d16f4980eb7e896db27%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-16919292832600298989.ampproject.net%2F2406131415000%2Fframe.html

Actually this is very sad to read and watch. He was young , he was skilled and still had a lot of time to improve and even catch a transfer in Europe. What I heard is that he had some small heart problems that affected him more than it should have had in that night and the result was a heart attack followed by insufficient brain oxygen:(. Prayers for his family , his closed friend , his team and everyone who supported him.

A very young man, from what I read he was 27 years old, leaves behind two small children, one of whom was just 15 days old... He was at work, it was all a fatality, very sad... he had his whole life ahead of him.

I saw that he possibly had a seizure followed by arrhythmia and cardiorespiratory arrest, but according to the doctor who attended to him, he arrived in the ambulance still breathing and with vital signs.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on August 28, 2024, 05:40:27 AM

Unfortunately, player Juan Manuel Izquierdo, from Nacional-URU, died at the Albert Einstein hospital in São Paulo. The player fell ill at the end of the match against São Paulo in the Copa Libertadores. It was a very sad situation. The player had small children. The scene of him staggering and falling on the pitch was quite shocking... It is worth remembering that this is the second tragedy of this type to occur in São Paulo games. The first was the death of São Caetano defender Serginho in 2004. Very, very sad.

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/sao-paulo/noticia/2024/08/27/izquierdo-jogador-do-nacional-uru-morre-em-sao-paulo.ghtml

https://x.com/Nacional/status/1828606877048950830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1828606877048950830%7Ctwgr%5Ea2d0fc962df1a3a0e0260d16f4980eb7e896db27%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-16919292832600298989.ampproject.net%2F2406131415000%2Fframe.html

Actually this is very sad to read and watch. He was young , he was skilled and still had a lot of time to improve and even catch a transfer in Europe. What I heard is that he had some small heart problems that affected him more than it should have had in that night and the result was a heart attack followed by insufficient brain oxygen:(. Prayers for his family , his closed friend , his team and everyone who supported him.

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Unfortunately, player Juan Manuel Izquierdo, from Nacional-URU, died at the Albert Einstein hospital in São Paulo. The player fell ill at the end of the match against São Paulo in the Copa Libertadores. It was a very sad situation. The player had small children. The scene of him staggering and falling on the pitch was quite shocking... It is worth remembering that this is the second tragedy of this type to occur in São Paulo games. The first was the death of São Caetano defender Serginho in 2004. Very, very sad.

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/sao-paulo/noticia/2024/08/27/izquierdo-jogador-do-nacional-uru-morre-em-sao-paulo.ghtml

https://x.com/Nacional/status/1828606877048950830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1828606877048950830%7Ctwgr%5Ea2d0fc962df1a3a0e0260d16f4980eb7e896db27%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-16919292832600298989.ampproject.net%2F2406131415000%2Fframe.html

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Quote from: rdluffy on August 24, 2024, 12:59:01 PM

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The games will be very good in these quarterfinals, we have five Brazilian clubs, with two matches between Brazilians, Botafogo x São Paulo (I believe Botafogo will advance) and Fluminense x Atletico-MG (I would bet on Atletico)... It's strange that Fluminense has come so far but at the same time is doing so badly in the national championship.... In the Flamengo x Penarol, Flamengo will definitely advance and Colo Colo x River Plate, I think River will win.... What do you think? What are your predictions?

My predictions:

Fluminense x Atlético MG
Botafogo x São Paulo
Colo Colo x River Plate
Flamengo x Peñarol

In bold are the ones I think will qualify
The only difference from your prediction is that I think São Paulo could surprise and beat Botafogo
São Paulo is usually good in South American competitions, so I believe in that result

Do you think the final will be between 2 brazilian teams?

I wouldn't like the final to be between two Brazilian teams, it's much cooler to see the rivalry between teams from different countries... Although lately the finals have been on neutral ground, which is a shame, I would like it to be the old-fashioned way, with home and away matches, to make it more exciting.

And what a shame about the Nacional full-back, apparently his health has gotten worse, very complicated, it seems like he won't be able to get out of this and recover... a young man, with a small child... very sad

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on August 23, 2024, 02:15:42 PM

The games will be very good in these quarterfinals, we have five Brazilian clubs, with two matches between Brazilians, Botafogo x São Paulo (I believe Botafogo will advance) and Fluminense x Atletico-MG (I would bet on Atletico)... It's strange that Fluminense has come so far but at the same time is doing so badly in the national championship.... In the Flamengo x Penarol, Flamengo will definitely advance and Colo Colo x River Plate, I think River will win.... What do you think? What are your predictions?

My predictions:

Fluminense x Atlético MG
Botafogo x São Paulo
Colo Colo x River Plate
Flamengo x Peñarol

In bold are the ones I think will qualify
The only difference from your prediction is that I think São Paulo could surprise and beat Botafogo
São Paulo is usually good in South American competitions, so I believe in that result

Do you think the final will be between 2 brazilian teams?

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Quote from: rdluffy on August 22, 2024, 07:35:03 AM

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Did you see coach Renato Gaúcho get really angry with the reporter? His decline is clear... he was supposed to be one of the greatest coaches in Brazil, and I remember when he said that if he were Flamengo's coach, he wouldn't lose to anyone else, because he had the best team in the country... the time came for him to have to coach Flamengo and that's what happened, he couldn't do anything.

https://www.tiktok.com/@corteszero14/video/7405581586281925894

I hadn't seen that interview, but I'm not surprised. Every time some journalists ask a few questions that really annoy the coaches after a disqualification hehehe Tongue

Quote from: criptoevangelista on August 22, 2024, 05:52:20 AM

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Regarding Palmeiras, I think now is the time for redemption and the team will qualify. After all, if not, a very serious crisis could come and the coach will start to be questioned about his work.

I got Peñarol's and River Plate's classification right (it was easy too haha), but I got Palmeiras' wrong
It was a very exciting game, I thought it would be very easy for Botafogo to qualify after 2x0, but incredibly, in the last minutes of the game Palmeiras scored 2 goals, and even scored the 3rd, but the ball hit the striker's hand and the goal was canceled
If the match went to penalties, Palmeiras would have qualified, but that's not what happened

I finally saw a great match, worthy of the Libertadores, with a lot of emotion
I lost the bet but won a great spectacle

The games will be very good in these quarterfinals, we have five Brazilian clubs, with two matches between Brazilians, Botafogo x São Paulo (I believe Botafogo will advance) and Fluminense x Atletico-MG (I would bet on Atletico)... It's strange that Fluminense has come so far but at the same time is doing so badly in the national championship.... In the Flamengo x Penarol, Flamengo will definitely advance and Colo Colo x River Plate, I think River will win.... What do you think? What are your predictions?

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on August 22, 2024, 05:52:20 AM

Did you see coach Renato Gaúcho get really angry with the reporter? His decline is clear... he was supposed to be one of the greatest coaches in Brazil, and I remember when he said that if he were Flamengo's coach, he wouldn't lose to anyone else, because he had the best team in the country... the time came for him to have to coach Flamengo and that's what happened, he couldn't do anything.

https://www.tiktok.com/@corteszero14/video/7405581586281925894

I hadn't seen that interview, but I'm not surprised. Every time some journalists ask a few questions that really annoy the coaches after a disqualification hehehe Tongue

Quote from: criptoevangelista on August 22, 2024, 05:52:20 AM

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Regarding Palmeiras, I think now is the time for redemption and the team will qualify. After all, if not, a very serious crisis could come and the coach will start to be questioned about his work.

I got Peñarol's and River Plate's classification right (it was easy too haha), but I got Palmeiras' wrong
It was a very exciting game, I thought it would be very easy for Botafogo to qualify after 2x0, but incredibly, in the last minutes of the game Palmeiras scored 2 goals, and even scored the 3rd, but the ball hit the striker's hand and the goal was canceled
If the match went to penalties, Palmeiras would have qualified, but that's not what happened

I finally saw a great match, worthy of the Libertadores, with a lot of emotion
I lost the bet but won a great spectacle

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Palmeiras 2 - 2 Botafogo

This was a very emotional game. Botafogo played well for many minutes. They managed to score 2 goals and hadn't conceded a goal until the 80th minute. You might think they would win this game easily. But it's unbelievable that in 2 minutes Botafogo conceded 2 goals and made the game a draw. But that was just another nightmare, because minutes later another heavy one came. Palmeiras scored the third goal, but thanks to VAR the goal was disallowed and Botafogo goes through to the next round. If it were in the past when VAR didn't exist, then Palmeiras would have won this game. We have to congratulate the existence of VAR because it makes the game fairer.

If there was no VAR, Palmeiras would have won the game

Bolivar - Flamengo

After Flamengo suffered a humiliating defeat in the Brazilian league game, I hope that at least in the morning game they can win without conceding too many goals. To be honest, I won't bet on Flamengo because I don't trust them. I just hope that they can at least get a draw or a win and don't concede too many goals.

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Quote from: rdluffy on August 21, 2024, 10:46:52 AM

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Returning to the Copa Libertadores games, in the round of 16, yesterday we had Flamengo's victory by 2-0, and São Paulo's draw with Nacional-URU... Did anyone here watch the games? Flamengo opened up a good lead for the second leg. And São Paulo, with practically 70% possession of the ball, was unable to score a single goal, finishing very few times (2 shots) against 14 from Nacional, who, despite having less possession of the ball, was much more effective in the game.

It's funny how Fluminense and Gremio were playing in the round of 16 of Libertadores, Fluminense managed to qualify, and both teams are horrible in the Brazilian championship Cheesy

The raffle helps a lot in these times, as two teams in a bad situation are facing each other

Today I think these teams will qualify:

Penãrol, after all, they have 4 gols of advantage and it's almost impossible to lose against The Strongest
River Plate, who will be playing at home with a one-goal advantage, I also think it's difficult to lose at the Monumental de Núñez
Palmeiras, have an absurd amount of pressure on them at the moment, they lost first game, they lost a few games in the Brasileirao and they need to qualify by all means, so I believe in at least a 1x0 win in normal time

Did you see coach Renato Gaúcho get really angry with the reporter? His decline is clear... he was supposed to be one of the greatest coaches in Brazil, and I remember when he said that if he were Flamengo's coach, he wouldn't lose to anyone else, because he had the best team in the country... the time came for him to have to coach Flamengo and that's what happened, he couldn't do anything.

https://www.tiktok.com/@corteszero14/video/7405581586281925894

Regarding Palmeiras, I think now is the time for redemption and the team will qualify. After all, if not, a very serious crisis could come and the coach will start to be questioned about his work.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on August 16, 2024, 05:47:53 AM

Returning to the Copa Libertadores games, in the round of 16, yesterday we had Flamengo's victory by 2-0, and São Paulo's draw with Nacional-URU... Did anyone here watch the games? Flamengo opened up a good lead for the second leg. And São Paulo, with practically 70% possession of the ball, was unable to score a single goal, finishing very few times (2 shots) against 14 from Nacional, who, despite having less possession of the ball, was much more effective in the game.

It's funny how Fluminense and Gremio were playing in the round of 16 of Libertadores, Fluminense managed to qualify, and both teams are horrible in the Brazilian championship Cheesy

The raffle helps a lot in these times, as two teams in a bad situation are facing each other

Today I think these teams will qualify:

Penãrol, after all, they have 4 gols of advantage and it's almost impossible to lose against The Strongest
River Plate, who will be playing at home with a one-goal advantage, I also think it's difficult to lose at the Monumental de Núñez
Palmeiras, have an absurd amount of pressure on them at the moment, they lost first game, they lost a few games in the Brasileirao and they need to qualify by all means, so I believe in at least a 1x0 win in normal time

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Returning to the Copa Libertadores games, in the round of 16, yesterday we had Flamengo's victory by 2-0, and São Paulo's draw with Nacional-URU... Did anyone here watch the games? Flamengo opened up a good lead for the second leg. And São Paulo, with practically 70% possession of the ball, was unable to score a single goal, finishing very few times (2 shots) against 14 from Nacional, who, despite having less possession of the ball, was much more effective in the game.

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Quote from: boltz on May 16, 2024, 02:15:51 PM

I feel like is impossible to actually catch a bet on Libertadores this week right ? I mean Junion won with 7 odds a game where they had no real intention to win and yet they scored 1-0 in early game and then game stayed that way for more than 70 minutes Shocked

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Today I won't be shocked if Liverpool will win the game in the same manner against San Lorenzo because both teams are having 4 points and a draw won't really help either of them to actually qualify further. Grin

It ended up that San Lorenzo won 3-2.... these last rounds of the group stage are very unpredictable, it's very challenging to place bets at this point in the championship... And I don't know what happens, the teams that do badly suddenly start giving their blood on the field and trying harder.... The question remains: why didn't they do this before? lol Huh

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I feel like is impossible to actually catch a bet on Libertadores this week right ? I mean Junion won with 7 odds a game where they had no real intention to win and yet they scored 1-0 in early game and then game stayed that way for more than 70 minutes Shocked

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Today I won't be shocked if Liverpool will win the game in the same manner against San Lorenzo because both teams are having 4 points and a draw won't really help either of them to actually qualify further. Grin

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Another shame for Flamengo, this time losing to Palestino. Flamengo is at risk of being eliminated in the next round...

What catches my attention is this goalkeeper, who once again fails in a move, he didn't even jump to try to save the shot that resulted in the goal, he tried to do the famous "defend with his eyes"... a total shame. As a Flamengo fan, I have already lost hope in this team in the Copa Libertadores.

Here's a video with the best moments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp_4Egqy7OE

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 02, 2024, 06:56:13 PM

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If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football , but in reality Brazil is the school.

I don't know if the future holds anything good for Brazil regarding football... in the past, 10, 15 years ago it was common to see children on the streets playing football, various talents were born there, skills were trained from a very young age during these matches on the street... nowadays with the advancement of the internet, most children and young people just want to be on the internet... leaving aside typical games, like playing ball and playing in the street... It will become increasingly rare to appear outstanding players in Brazil.

I don't know if I'm too pessimistic... but that's the only thing I can see about it

When it comes to club , I don't see Brazil having a another crazy run to win Liberdatores cup year after year and that is because more and more players are leaving for Europe club at a very early age and that will automatically affect their clubs performance. However , when it comes to international football , Brazill will always be top3 and always one of the favorites to win World Cup but also Copa America and personally , I'm a huge Brazilian fan when they play at world cup and maybe with a bit of luck we can win at USA 2026 Cool

Well, about the replacement generation of Brazil, well, if they are in that line, they should do something to motivate the children, well, in fact, Antony who plays for Man United is one of them who came out of the favelas and is a great example For many then in this order of ideas things should be like this, if Brazil starts looking for children they should encourage them, the thing about social networks, telephones is not only in Brazil, I think that happens in all countries in the world . , but Brazil, due to pure genetics, its players are very good, so with the passage of time I believe that apart from the protection that recruitment campaigns must carry out for them, Brazil will surely recover from the time it spent in the first phase of the USA 2026 qualifiers, It is a team that will always give its best and give its best, tremendous players who have wow, there is no doubt about that.

What has happened to encourage this is the opening of football schools linked to clubs, but I don't know if the children's interest is still the same as it used to be.

Perhaps from childhood, sports could be encouraged more because what currently happens in schools are simple weekly physical education classes, but it is still not enough...

But perhaps there is still hope, in the Copa São Paulo de Juniores, the annual youth tournament, there are always some players with a lot of potential.

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If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football , but in reality Brazil is the school.

I don't know if the future holds anything good for Brazil regarding football... in the past, 10, 15 years ago it was common to see children on the streets playing football, various talents were born there, skills were trained from a very young age during these matches on the street... nowadays with the advancement of the internet, most children and young people just want to be on the internet... leaving aside typical games, like playing ball and playing in the street... It will become increasingly rare to appear outstanding players in Brazil.

I don't know if I'm too pessimistic... but that's the only thing I can see about it

When it comes to club , I don't see Brazil having a another crazy run to win Liberdatores cup year after year and that is because more and more players are leaving for Europe club at a very early age and that will automatically affect their clubs performance. However , when it comes to international football , Brazill will always be top3 and always one of the favorites to win World Cup but also Copa America and personally , I'm a huge Brazilian fan when they play at world cup and maybe with a bit of luck we can win at USA 2026 Cool

Well, about the replacement generation of Brazil, well, if they are in that line, they should do something to motivate the children, well, in fact, Antony who plays for Man United is one of them who came out of the favelas and is a great example For many then in this order of ideas things should be like this, if Brazil starts looking for children they should encourage them, the thing about social networks, telephones is not only in Brazil, I think that happens in all countries in the world . , but Brazil, due to pure genetics, its players are very good, so with the passage of time I believe that apart from the protection that recruitment campaigns must carry out for them, Brazil will surely recover from the time it spent in the first phase of the USA 2026 qualifiers, It is a team that will always give its best and give its best, tremendous players who have wow, there is no doubt about that.

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