The second round of the Libertadores group stage has already started.
Fluminense had a great victory against Colo-Colo and took first place in Group A of the Libertadores.
Later we will have Flamengo x Palestino game and also Sao Paulo x Cobresal.
And tomorrow we will have some interesting games, such as Palmeiras x Liverpool and River Plate x Nacional.
Is anyone else watching some games!?
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What will be missing? because as @rdluffy said, only Atlético MG had a good result... is there a lack of study of opponents? perhaps some deficiency in the scouting teams of the Brazilian teams, identifying the possible weaknesses of the opponents and training this before the matches.
Hmm...that's an interesting question.I believe there are some variables that may have affected the performance of some teams, for example the start of the championship.
As there are teams from different countries in South America, each one has a "different playing style", different stadiums and sometimes the altitude can be a problem for some teams that are not used to playing at high altitudes.
I imagine that during the championship the teams may get used to it and their performance may improve, especially the Brazilian teams.
There is also the season for the South American teams that starts well before the Brazilian championship, so while the Brazilian teams are playing pre-season and state championships, the other teams have already been playing in the main league for at least 2 months... for the pace of the game this makes all the difference
What will be missing? because as @rdluffy said, only Atlético MG had a good result... is there a lack of study of opponents? perhaps some deficiency in the scouting teams of the Brazilian teams, identifying the possible weaknesses of the opponents and training this before the matches.
Hmm...that's an interesting question.I believe there are some variables that may have affected the performance of some teams, for example the start of the championship.
As there are teams from different countries in South America, each one has a "different playing style", different stadiums and sometimes the altitude can be a problem for some teams that are not used to playing at high altitudes.
I imagine that during the championship the teams may get used to it and their performance may improve, especially the Brazilian teams.
Sometimes I confess that I am impressed by Sao Paulo's performance.
I had expectations that he could beat Telleres in this last Libertadores game, but that didn't happen. After the game, I carried out a "quick search" and saw that Telleres is performing well in the Argentine championship so far. I believe this is enough to show the quality and good performance that Telleres had playing against Sao Paulo.
Let's see how these teams will perform in the next games.
By the way, congratulations and thanks for creating this topic @criptoevangelista
I have no doubt that the Copa Libertadores is a very well-known and competitive championship. I hope this all generates a lot of discussion on the Gambling Discussion board
I had expectations that he could beat Telleres in this last Libertadores game, but that didn't happen. After the game, I carried out a "quick search" and saw that Telleres is performing well in the Argentine championship so far. I believe this is enough to show the quality and good performance that Telleres had playing against Sao Paulo.
Let's see how these teams will perform in the next games.
By the way, congratulations and thanks for creating this topic @criptoevangelista
I have no doubt that the Copa Libertadores is a very well-known and competitive championship. I hope this all generates a lot of discussion on the Gambling Discussion board
I also thought that São Paulo would beat this team, I still think that Brazilian teams don't know very well how their South American opponents play, so they have a lot of difficulty, even against a team that isn't doing very well (which isn't the Telleres case).
What will be missing? because as @rdluffy said, only Atlético MG had a good result... is there a lack of study of opponents? perhaps some deficiency in the scouting teams of the Brazilian teams, identifying the possible weaknesses of the opponents and training this before the matches.
Sometimes I confess that I am impressed by Sao Paulo's performance.
I had expectations that he could beat Telleres in this last Libertadores game, but that didn't happen. After the game, I carried out a "quick search" and saw that Telleres is performing well in the Argentine championship so far. I believe this is enough to show the quality and good performance that Telleres had playing against Sao Paulo.
Let's see how these teams will perform in the next games.
By the way, congratulations and thanks for creating this topic @criptoevangelista
I have no doubt that the Copa Libertadores is a very well-known and competitive championship. I hope this all generates a lot of discussion on the Gambling Discussion board
I had expectations that he could beat Telleres in this last Libertadores game, but that didn't happen. After the game, I carried out a "quick search" and saw that Telleres is performing well in the Argentine championship so far. I believe this is enough to show the quality and good performance that Telleres had playing against Sao Paulo.
Let's see how these teams will perform in the next games.
By the way, congratulations and thanks for creating this topic @criptoevangelista
I have no doubt that the Copa Libertadores is a very well-known and competitive championship. I hope this all generates a lot of discussion on the Gambling Discussion board
To be honest, I just want to see my country (Venezuela) to shine a bit in this incoming Copa Libertadores. Historically, we have never performed well in football, but lately our team has managed to score some good points, special in the the end of the 2023. (Mano, tengo fe).
If my country managed to win the cup, together with the right to participate in the next football world cup, it would be beyond amazing. All this country would be full of marketing looking forward to it.
However, I would not be surprised Argentina managed to over perform again as the champions of the world they are, and managed to secure this cup as well. Time will tell. The only sure thing is I am planning to bet some bucks on this edition.
If my country managed to win the cup, together with the right to participate in the next football world cup, it would be beyond amazing. All this country would be full of marketing looking forward to it.
However, I would not be surprised Argentina managed to over perform again as the champions of the world they are, and managed to secure this cup as well. Time will tell. The only sure thing is I am planning to bet some bucks on this edition.
It's nice, you're Venezuelan
The national team has a good chance of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup, you must be excited...
...and that could reflect on the Libertadores campaign too
The big problem here is that both Deportivo Táchira and Caracas are in very difficult groups with very traditional Libertadores opponents, such as River Plate, Nacional, Peñarol and Atlético MG, but both teams have chances
Of the Brazilian teams, only Atlético MG managed a good result in the first round.
Is it just the first round, due to nerves, or could Brazil's dominance come to an end this year? hehehe
Yes I am from Venezuela, however I do not follow regional matches as much as I do with international ones or those which are supposed to face national selections against each other.
I am trying to keep my expectations low, our country does not have an history of being able to qualify to World Cups. It is a very different situation from what we see from countries like Brazil or Argentina, whose qualifications are almost taken from granted.
I believe we are reached a point were, even though we would like to qualify to the world cup, it has been literal decades we have had underperforming when compared to other football clubs in Latin America.
Whatever happens, it does not mean one cannot take these occasions to try to pocket some money thanks to sport betting and the liquidity offered by latin American markets on Football. This market may be one of the biggest ones in that regard.
To be honest, I just want to see my country (Venezuela) to shine a bit in this incoming Copa Libertadores. Historically, we have never performed well in football, but lately our team has managed to score some good points, special in the the end of the 2023. (Mano, tengo fe).
If my country managed to win the cup, together with the right to participate in the next football world cup, it would be beyond amazing. All this country would be full of marketing looking forward to it.
However, I would not be surprised Argentina managed to over perform again as the champions of the world they are, and managed to secure this cup as well. Time will tell. The only sure thing is I am planning to bet some bucks on this edition.
If my country managed to win the cup, together with the right to participate in the next football world cup, it would be beyond amazing. All this country would be full of marketing looking forward to it.
However, I would not be surprised Argentina managed to over perform again as the champions of the world they are, and managed to secure this cup as well. Time will tell. The only sure thing is I am planning to bet some bucks on this edition.
It's nice, you're Venezuelan
The national team has a good chance of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup, you must be excited...
...and that could reflect on the Libertadores campaign too
The big problem here is that both Deportivo Táchira and Caracas are in very difficult groups with very traditional Libertadores opponents, such as River Plate, Nacional, Peñarol and Atlético MG, but both teams have chances
Of the Brazilian teams, only Atlético MG managed a good result in the first round.
Is it just the first round, due to nerves, or could Brazil's dominance come to an end this year? hehehe
It seems that the Brazilian teams were unlucky in this round, Flamengo drew in the game against Millionaires, in a game in which the Millionaires player received a red card in the 61st minute and thanks to that, Flamengo benefited from a penalty and scored a goal. , but even though Flamengo was playing with 11 players while their opponent was playing with only 10 players, Flamengo still couldn't win that game, they conceded 1 goal and the game ended in a draw, Flamengo played very badly, There's no quality, the way they played was horrible, when I see this kind of thing:
That shot on goal was horrible, really bad...
I find it impressive that a professional player makes this mistake, after all he trains every day, he is accompanied by professionals from the most diverse areas of the sport, this player's only concern is playing ball, everything else has someone doing for him. .. and the individual misses the shot, any small child playing football in the street would score that goal... Very bizarre.
I hope that in the next rounds the level of football improves, because as you said, it was very bad. But the intensity of Europe is something that won't happen in the Libertadores, the style is very different, South American teams don't have the tactical quality of European teams.
To be honest, I just want to see my country (Venezuela) to shine a bit in this incoming Copa Libertadores. Historically, we have never performed well in football, but lately our team has managed to score some good points, special in the the end of the 2023. (Mano, tengo fe).
If my country managed to win the cup, together with the right to participate in the next football world cup, it would be beyond amazing. All this country would be full of marketing looking forward to it.
However, I would not be surprised Argentina managed to over perform again as the champions of the world they are, and managed to secure this cup as well. Time will tell. The only sure thing is I am planning to bet some bucks on this edition.
I don't follow football in Venezuela much, do the teams from your country that are in this Libertadores have a chance of standing out in the championship?
Generally, the tournament is very competitive and brings out the best in South American football.
I created this topic so we can discuss this incredible championship... So, who's your favorite team?
I created this topic so we can discuss this incredible championship... So, who's your favorite team?
To be honest, I just want to see my country (Venezuela) to shine a bit in this incoming Copa Libertadores. Historically, we have never performed well in football, but lately our team has managed to score some good points, special in the the end of the 2023. (Mano, tengo fe).
If my country managed to win the cup, together with the right to participate in the next football world cup, it would be beyond amazing. All this country would be full of marketing looking forward to it.
However, I would not be surprised Argentina managed to over perform again as the champions of the world they are, and managed to secure this cup as well. Time will tell. The only sure thing is I am planning to bet some bucks on this edition.
Awesome result for Junior yesterday and well debut with 3 points in a group that is very balanced.
Right now , I'm watching Rosario - Penarol and even if Rosario had a great first half and played great football , Penarol is having a great run lately and I would be surprised if they won't score and then maybe play for a draw.
Right now , I'm watching Rosario - Penarol and even if Rosario had a great first half and played great football , Penarol is having a great run lately and I would be surprised if they won't score and then maybe play for a draw.
It seems that the Brazilian teams were unlucky in this round, Flamengo drew in the game against Millionaires, in a game in which the Millionaires player received a red card in the 61st minute and thanks to that, Flamengo benefited from a penalty and scored a goal. , but even though Flamengo was playing with 11 players while their opponent was playing with only 10 players, Flamengo still couldn't win that game, they conceded 1 goal and the game ended in a draw, Flamengo played very badly, There's no quality, the way they played was horrible, when I see this kind of thing:
the Flamengo player simply wasted a clear opportunity to score a goal because he is not a player with good foot technique, that is the problem currently in America, in the past we saw many good players leaving America for Europe, today we are seeing a great reduction in the quality of players from America, it can be seen that in many leagues there are few Brazilian players when compared to the past where Brazilian players were always highlighted. I wonder how far Flamengo will go with this low level? One thing I'm convinced is that Flamengo won't get far in this competition and when I say far I mean reaching the semi-finals and finals
fluminense draw
Palmeiras draw
Flamengo draw
We will see in the next rounds if these Brazilian teams will have better results, but it seems to me that this competition needs to improve a lot in the quality of the players, from what I could see of these games, they looked like games involving teams from Africa. they are competing with the level of teams from the 2nd division of England, perhaps even the level of teams or league from the second division of England is better. I could see situations in which the referee ignored, the games themselves were slow, they didn't have that level of intensity that you see in European football
the Flamengo player simply wasted a clear opportunity to score a goal because he is not a player with good foot technique, that is the problem currently in America, in the past we saw many good players leaving America for Europe, today we are seeing a great reduction in the quality of players from America, it can be seen that in many leagues there are few Brazilian players when compared to the past where Brazilian players were always highlighted. I wonder how far Flamengo will go with this low level? One thing I'm convinced is that Flamengo won't get far in this competition and when I say far I mean reaching the semi-finals and finals
fluminense draw
Palmeiras draw
Flamengo draw
We will see in the next rounds if these Brazilian teams will have better results, but it seems to me that this competition needs to improve a lot in the quality of the players, from what I could see of these games, they looked like games involving teams from Africa. they are competing with the level of teams from the 2nd division of England, perhaps even the level of teams or league from the second division of England is better. I could see situations in which the referee ignored, the games themselves were slow, they didn't have that level of intensity that you see in European football
You were quicker than me to create the Libertadores thread hahaha
People outside South America have no idea what the Libertadores feels like, and they don't pay much attention, they only look at the European leagues
Only the Libertadores provides memorable matches between Argentinians and Brazilians, or Brazilians and Uruguayans
Games at altitude in Bolivia, difficult games for any Brazilian at La Bombonera packed with Boca Juniors fans, the terror it was for the Brazilians to play against Riquelme etc
Not to mention the matches with countless fouls, expulsions hahaha
This year I'm still studying the favorites, does anyone here already have an opinion on the bets?
People outside South America have no idea what the Libertadores feels like, and they don't pay much attention, they only look at the European leagues
Only the Libertadores provides memorable matches between Argentinians and Brazilians, or Brazilians and Uruguayans
Games at altitude in Bolivia, difficult games for any Brazilian at La Bombonera packed with Boca Juniors fans, the terror it was for the Brazilians to play against Riquelme etc
Not to mention the matches with countless fouls, expulsions hahaha
This year I'm still studying the favorites, does anyone here already have an opinion on the bets?
I was always a fan of Junior team from Columbia and I think this year they do have a great chance to reach semi-finals but that also depends if Bacca will be able to score a lot not just in Primera Columbia but also in Libertadores.
Last night was full of surprises right ? with late goals in both Cobresal and Flamengo games + Gremio who wasn't able to score even if they played decent.
Last night was full of surprises right ? with late goals in both Cobresal and Flamengo games + Gremio who wasn't able to score even if they played decent.
Yes, several surprises, I didn't bet on these matches, but if I had, I would certainly have lost money...
I think that when teams debut they are not yet adapted to playing against other teams from different countries, despite being in the same region, it completely changes the way they play... Libertadores matches are much more tense than in local championships.
Be surprised to see Paraguayan striker Roque Santa Cruz still active, he is at Libertad in this Libertadores... he is currently 42 years old. He is a legend in Paraguay and the Paraguayan national team's top scorer
he gave a recent interview to a Brazilian website
https://ge.globo.com/sp/futebol/libertadores/noticia/2024/04/03/vovo-libertadores-aos-42-anos-artilheiro-paraguaio-nao-pensa-em-adeus-e-diz-que-hoje-se-diverte.ghtml (in portuguese)
I was always a fan of Junior team from Columbia and I think this year they do have a great chance to reach semi-finals but that also depends if Bacca will be able to score a lot not just in Primera Columbia but also in Libertadores.
Last night was full of surprises right ? with late goals in both Cobresal and Flamengo games + Gremio who wasn't able to score even if they played decent.
Last night was full of surprises right ? with late goals in both Cobresal and Flamengo games + Gremio who wasn't able to score even if they played decent.
The tournament is very competitive? for real? if it was very competitive we should see champions from different leagues almost every year. Just FYI, Brazil has dominated this championship for the past 5 years, and the last team other than Brazilian teams to win was River Plate from Argentina.
Yes, it is very competitive, despite Brazilian teams winning in recent years, the vast majority of games are very competitive and exciting, it is very difficult, for example, to play at the altitude of Bolivia (4000m), or to play in la bombonera.
The rivalry is very strong in In South America, this championship is the one that has the greatest weight for a fan of these teams, it is worth more than the national title.
I go to Fluminense & Palmeiras 
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.I'm following Flamengo, who yesterday in their debut, even with one more player, conceded the draw to Millonarios in Bogotá-COL, the teams feel the effects of altitude very much. Bogotá is 2,625 m above sea level.... imagine playing sports at such an altitude
Generally, the tournament is very competitive and brings out the best in South American football.
The tournament is very competitive? for real? if it was very competitive we should see champions from different leagues almost every year. Just FYI, Brazil has dominated this championship for the past 5 years, and the last team other than Brazilian teams to win was River Plate from Argentina.
So, who's your favorite team?
I go to Fluminense & Palmeiras
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The 2024 Copa CONMEBOL Libertadores is the 65th edition of the CONMEBOL Libertadores (also referred to as the Copa Libertadores), South America's premier club football tournament organized by CONMEBOL. The competition began on 6 February and the final is scheduled to be played on 30 November 2024 in Buenos Aires, Argentina.[1][2]
The winners of the 2024 Copa Libertadores will earn the right to play against the winners of the 2024 Copa Sudamericana in the 2025 Recopa Sudamericana. They will also automatically qualify for the 2024 FIFA Intercontinental Cup, the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup and the 2025 Copa Libertadores group stage.
Fluminense are the defending champions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Copa_Libertadores
GROUP A
* Alianza Lima
* Cerro Porteño
* Colo-Colo
* Fluminense
GROUP B
* Barcelona de Guayaquil
* Cobresal
* São Paulo
* Talleres
GROUP C
*Estudiantes
*Grêmio
*Huachipato
*The Strongest
GROUP D
*Botafogo
*Junior Barranquilla
*LDU
*Universitario
GROUP E
*Flamengo
*Millonarios
*Bolívar
*Palestino
GROUP F
*Independiente del Valle
*Liverpool-URU
*Palmeiras
*San Lorenzo
GROUP G
*Atlético-MG
*Caracas
*Peñarol
*Rosario Central
GROUP H
*Deportivo Táchira
*Libertad
*Nacional-URU
*River Plate
The first games of Libertadores 2024 begin today (april 02), the biggest tournament in South America, guarantees a place in the FIFA Club World Cup!
Generally, the tournament is very competitive and brings out the best in South American football.
I created this topic so we can discuss this incredible championship... So, who's your favorite team?
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