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July 05, 2024, 07:40:00 AM
After Argentina's difficult qualification, I hope you realize that South American teams have improved a lot in recent years, and that Argentina isn't so much better than Brazil, because there are also days when it plays very badly
Yesterday was one of those days, Argentina played VERY badly, Messi played badly and Ecuador played a better game, missing more chances to score
But the Argentinian team's experience made the difference yesterday, managing to hold off the Ecuadorian team and qualify through penalty kicks

If Argentina play like that against Colombia or Brazil, they won't be champions, but yesterday's game can serve as a lesson to improve for the next match

Today I believe Venezuela will win  Cool

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July 05, 2024, 07:23:01 AM


The Argentina team qualified for the semi-finals. But I would say Argentina should perform better if they want to win the Copa title.

We saw good performances from Argentina's players in every match of the group stage. But Argentina's overall performance against Ecuador was a bit slow. Argentina did not play a full attacking strategy in this match. I think if Argentina played attacking strategy, the match would have been more competitive and Argentina's chances of winning would have increased. But Scaloni probably didn't want to take the risk. So Barcelona played somewhat defensively in this match.

In the entire match, Barcelona players made a total of 8 shots, while Ecuador's players made 9 shots. Both had two shots on target. It goes without saying that Argentina dominated the match. Argentina players have 51% ball possession in this match.
it's funny how the Messi effect at Barcelona has been on some fans and you're constantly mixing Barcelona and Argentina up in your writeup but that's what being a GOAT can cause. That being said, you have to understand that when you're out of group stage, what you need more is good results and not just a quality play. Argentina is a big team with great players and obviously the most favourite to win this season of the Copa America tournament but that's not just enough reason to assume that they must get everything all smooth and win their opponents too comfortably. Observe what will start happening even at the Euros from this stage of the tournament, it's going to be more draws that will lead to penalty shoot out because at this phase of the tournament, it's never an easy ride for any team. They where lucky to have gone into playing penalty and winning the shootout and that's all that really matters. Do all you've got to do and get into the semi finals and that's what the fans want. At the training and in group stage matches, you can be as calm as possible and show your fans that you're a great team but when it gets this far, what's expected is that you get all three point and proced to the next round. The rest is just story.
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July 05, 2024, 06:56:01 AM
Martinez the hero in a penalty shootout once again. Seems like he saves 50% of the penalties he faces, that second penalty stop was amazing, big left hand, wow. The dance after was pretty funny too.
My boy Alexis Mac Allister with a great penalty too. What was Messi thinking though?


The Argentina team won this match due to the only goalkeeper Mertínez, he saved a lot of balls. But the goal that the Ecuador team player gave with his head in the extra minute of the main game is definitely mysterious.  Martinez was unsuccessful there, however, as he made the save to catch the ball as it went. But the first ball was directly handed back to secure a 50 per cent win here, and he picked up another ball beautifully to give the Argentine side a massive boost from Martinez.
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July 05, 2024, 06:46:29 AM


The Argentina team qualified for the semi-finals. But I would say Argentina should perform better if they want to win the Copa title.

We saw good performances from Argentina's players in every match of the group stage. But Argentina's overall performance against Ecuador was a bit slow. Argentina did not play a full attacking strategy in this match. I think if Argentina played attacking strategy, the match would have been more competitive and Argentina's chances of winning would have increased. But Scaloni probably didn't want to take the risk. So Barcelona played somewhat defensively in this match.

In the entire match, Barcelona players made a total of 8 shots, while Ecuador's players made 9 shots. Both had two shots on target. It goes without saying that Argentina dominated the match. Argentina players have 51% ball possession in this match.

To be honest, this result doesn't surprise me because looking at the performance history of the Argentine national team in the last 4 years, they have played well when playing in the 4 - 3 - 3 system, especially when Di Maria is playing, this system which is in this photo:



Is the ideal system that when the Argentine coach uses, he can make the team have more ball possession, greater control of the game and manage to score many goals, the problem arises in the fact that the Argentine coach has to spare Di Maria and When he replaces Di Maria, the team starts to play less well, also the Argentine coach has been constantly changing formation, I don't understand why he has been doing this, whatever happened in the game against Ecuador is normal. Argentina managed to get far thanks to good defense, Argentina's coach has focused a lot on defense and so far his strategy has given good results



uruguay - Brazil

in the last 5 games Brazil was better when they played against Uruguay



https://livescores.biz/h2h/brazil-cf-vs-uruguay-cf

but this current Brazilian national team has shown a lot of weakness in the last 3 years and last year Uruguay managed to beat Brazil after a sequence of 4 games losing to Brazil, which could also pave the way for a sequence of victories for Uruguay against Brazil. The game on the 7th will be a difficult game for Brazil
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July 05, 2024, 05:32:59 AM
I thought Argentina would have an easy time against Ecuador, but this shows that anything can happen in a knockout match. Goalkeeper Dibu Martínez once again showed that he is an expert at saving penalties. I just thought it was unnecessary for Messi to do what he did; he should have taken the penalty kick with a normal shot.
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July 05, 2024, 05:07:10 AM
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Argentina were leading the match by 1-0 but it was the last minutes goal by Kevin Rodriguez from Ecuador that level the match and we moved into the penalties.
From that moment onwards, I was confident that Argentina will win through penalties as their Goalkeeper is far more experienced and he was looking to stop every penalty.

Messi missed the first penalty and Ecaudor has the slightest of hopes but it was soon finished when Ecuador missed the first two penalties and it was impossible coming back in the match for them.
Emiliano Martinez once again showed his class as a special goalkeeper who saved penalty kicks. Previously he was also the hero of Argentina victory when he saved three penalties vs. Colombia in the 2021 Copa America. The same story continued at the 2022 world cup when saving penalties vs the Netherlands and France. Two penalties saved by Emiliano Martinez vs Ecuador allowed Argentina to advance to the semifinals. Scaloni must always be alert in formulating strategies when his team has difficulty beating their opponents in normal time. He needs to change tactics to strengthen the defensive area because if it continues to the penalty shootout round, it is likely that they will come out as winners.
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July 05, 2024, 04:57:59 AM
However, Messi could not score from the penalty in this match. Such mistakes cannot be expected from an experienced player like Messi in such an important match.
Nobody was also expecting messi to miss the penalty against ecuador, and his panenka is hitting the bar. I thought that would be an easy penalty from messi, but it seems he is following his besties, cristiano ronaldo. The hilarious part is after ronaldo missed a penalty, then messi does it now. Then, i tell you messi and ronaldo is secretly besties, but they never publish it.
They both have similar statistics, with 0 goals and 1 assist each. They even missed penalties within a week of each other. It seems like they're still connected in some way.  
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July 05, 2024, 04:55:28 AM
In any case, Argentina are playing very solidly this Copa America and I expect them to beat Ecuador in the quarter-finals. I'm not sure about Venezuela, they will progress, but I don't think it will be an easy match.

My predictions for the first two games:

Argentina v Ecuador 2:1
Venezuela vs. Canada 1:1

and Venezuela will win narrowly in injury time.

My first perdiction has already gone down the drain and Argentina had to go into the penalty shoot-out and narrowly prevailed, which was somewhat unexpected. You also have to say that a goal in the 91st minute is always a bit of luck.

The chances are slim that it will be another draw after regulation time today, but I'm sticking with my prediction for Venezuela v Canada.





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July 05, 2024, 04:37:45 AM
Argentina wanted to win this match by a narrow margin. Therefore, Argentina did not attack much in this match. Argentina's players were more focused on keeping their defense strong. After scoring, Argentina did very little attacking. But in the group stage matches we saw a different match strategy from Argentina.

Argentina was lucky I wouldn't say that. If Argentina had been lucky, Argentina would not have conceded a goal in extra time after 90 minutes. However, Messi could not score from the penalty in this match. Such mistakes cannot be expected from an experienced player like Messi in such an important match.
I don't know what is the basis for you saying that Argentina is targeting a narrow victory, if indeed they can achieve a big victory to guarantee their qualification for the semifinals, in my opinion, what happened on the field today is not what you said, indeed Argentina was the favorite team before the match started,however they were actually surprised by the tight resistance from Ecuador from the start of the match, previously  I predicted that Argentina would win easily in that match, but what I thought was the opposite of what was on the field, Argentina, which was leading 1-0 in the first half, still Even though they were still pressing Ecuador defense, Ecuador was still able to block every attack carried out by Argentine players.

In the second half of course you could see how Ecuador increased the intensity of their attacks and in the end a late goal from Rodriguez in injury time was able to force Argentina to continue the match until the penalty kick, both teams had fairly balanced game statistics both in terms of possession of the ball and also the opportunities created, so that Indeed what you say if Argentina is just looking for a narrow win is of course wrong in my opinion because that will only put them at risk of failing to qualify.
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July 05, 2024, 03:51:01 AM
I think Argentina played taking for granted that they would win the game and this become even more clear after they scored the goal.They thought they had already won the game at that point and only careless play followed until additional time where they managed to equalize.Then it become interesting and even more when penalties started with Messi losing the first one,Argentina was lucky yesterday and they managed to qualify further yet the game was not at all convincing.

Argentina wanted to win this match by a narrow margin. Therefore, Argentina did not attack much in this match. Argentina's players were more focused on keeping their defense strong. After scoring, Argentina did very little attacking. But in the group stage matches we saw a different match strategy from Argentina.

Argentina was lucky I wouldn't say that. If Argentina had been lucky, Argentina would not have conceded a goal in extra time after 90 minutes. However, Messi could not score from the penalty in this match. Such mistakes cannot be expected from an experienced player like Messi in such an important match.
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July 05, 2024, 03:20:24 AM
Martinez the hero in a penalty shootout once again. Seems like he saves 50% of the penalties he faces, that second penalty stop was amazing, big left hand, wow. The dance after was pretty funny too.
My boy Alexis Mac Allister with a great penalty too. What was Messi thinking though?

Two games tonight, I expect Colombia and Venezuela to go through but at this point who knows. The best game is the day after though, Uruguay vs Brazil.
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July 05, 2024, 01:27:31 AM
I think Argentina played taking for granted that they would win the game and this become even more clear after they scored the goal.They thought they had already won the game at that point and only careless play followed until additional time where they managed to equalize.Then it become interesting and even more when penalties started with Messi losing the first one,Argentina was lucky yesterday and they managed to qualify further yet the game was not at all convincing.
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July 05, 2024, 01:25:02 AM


Well done, argentina won the game against ecuador with 4-2 as the final score. Though, argentina won the game, but it almost feels like a loss for messi's squad. It surprised me when messi missing his penalty, i thought argentina was done for. And then, Martinez stepped up to the plate, and he gave big thing his club. Argentina beat Ecuador to reach the semi-final. They are getting closer to meeting Colombia or Uruguay in the final. But, the battle will be fierce for Argentina. Colombia and Uruguay are looking more solid. Kudos for argentina after beating ecuador in the penalty.

If not because of Argentina's goalkeeper Argentina would have been eliminated from the Copa America, let be honest Argentina's performance was not that good in this match, many people think Argentina is the only favorite to win this Copa America but for me, as long as Brazil and Uruguay are the in the tournament Argentina can not be the only favorite team to win the title, Argentina can not defeat Ecuador? So if Argentina meets against Colombia or Uruguay which is a very strong team and also wins all their matches in this tournament how are they going to do? They should do more than this next time.

Where are the Messi fans who are laughing at Ronaldo when he misses a penalty in euros against Slovenia? Messi also missed a penalty yesterday and we didn’t hear anything about it, if not for the Argentina goalkeeper who stands out for saving some Ecuador penalties Argentina would be out of this tournament, Messi fans should know that no one is above mistakes, Ronaldo misses a penalty and you guys are mocking him and now your goat has also missed a penalty for his team and you guys can’t say anything to defend yourself Grin.
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July 05, 2024, 01:22:52 AM


The Argentina team qualified for the semi-finals. But I would say Argentina should perform better if they want to win the Copa title.

We saw good performances from Argentina's players in every match of the group stage. But Argentina's overall performance against Ecuador was a bit slow. Argentina did not play a full attacking strategy in this match. I think if Argentina played attacking strategy, the match would have been more competitive and Argentina's chances of winning would have increased. But Scaloni probably didn't want to take the risk. So Barcelona played somewhat defensively in this match.

In the entire match, Barcelona players made a total of 8 shots, while Ecuador's players made 9 shots. Both had two shots on target. It goes without saying that Argentina dominated the match. Argentina players have 51% ball possession in this match.

I had the same thought. Argentina played quite impressively during the group phase. Even, they still had a good performance though they had to play without Messi in the match against Peru. However, in the match against Ecuador, Argentina really faced very fierce resistance from their opponent. They still looked good throughout the first half but, after the second half, Ecuador seemed to be putting quite tight pressure on Argentina, and I think Argentina was very lucky because Ecuador failed to take advantage of a penalty in the 62nd minute.
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July 05, 2024, 01:09:18 AM
We got a great surprise in today's match, where Argentina and Ecuador played an interesting game. Although in this game I would say Ecuador team played much better than Argentina and they performed well but unfortunately lost because of their luck. The two teams were almost evenly matched in attack and possession, and Ecuador had more shots on target than Argentina. We saw Argentina score a goal before half-time in the game, but Ecuador equalized late in the half-time. The game went on for a long time but neither team could score which led to the match going to penalties where Argentina won by one goal. Although the penalty shootout depends largely on the luck of each team and Argentina were lucky enough to enter the semi-finals on penalties, but Ecuador had a bad luck which saw them exit from the Copa America.
Until halftime, Argentina's style of play was good, with attack and possession Argentina leading the way. But Argentina's style of play was not good after half time. Ecuador had more attack and possession after halftime. Ecuador might have won 2-1 had Ecuador not missed the penalty. Ecuador had bad luck, they played really well. With the match tied at 1-1, the game was awarded to a penalty shootout. Penalty shootou Messi missed the first goal. Emiliano Martínez's brilliant save gave Argentina the win and qualification to the semi-finals. Congratulations to the Argentina team.

If you compare the two teams relatively, you will see that Argentina team did not perform well. Because the players of the Argentina team are experienced and have won the World Cup, but usually the main stage draw with the Ecuador team. Because in comparison, the Ecuador team players were working hard. If there was more time, Argentina would have lost. Lionel Messi could not attack strongly in this game, this match was a threat for the Argentine team.  But it is normal that Argentina won because of the penalty.
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July 05, 2024, 01:02:35 AM


Well done, argentina won the game against ecuador with 4-2 as the final score. Though, argentina won the game, but it almost feels like a loss for messi's squad. It surprised me when messi missing his penalty, i thought argentina was done for. And then, Martinez stepped up to the plate, and he gave big thing his club. Argentina beat Ecuador to reach the semi-final. They are getting closer to meeting Colombia or Uruguay in the final. But, the battle will be fierce for Argentina. Colombia and Uruguay are looking more solid. Kudos for argentina after beating ecuador in the penalty.
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July 05, 2024, 12:54:42 AM
Until halftime, Argentina's style of play was good, with attack and possession Argentina leading the way. But Argentina's style of play was not good after half time. Ecuador had more attack and possession after halftime. Ecuador might have won 2-1 had Ecuador not missed the penalty. Ecuador had bad luck, they played really well. With the match tied at 1-1, the game was awarded to a penalty shootout. Penalty shootou Messi missed the first goal. Emiliano Martínez's brilliant save gave Argentina the win and qualification to the semi-finals. Congratulations to the Argentina team.

Argentina were leading the match by 1-0 but it was the last minutes goal by Kevin Rodriguez from Ecuador that level the match and we moved into the penalties.
From that moment onwards, I was confident that Argentina will win through penalties as their Goalkeeper is far more experienced and he was looking to stop every penalty.

Messi missed the first penalty and Ecaudor has the slightest of hopes but it was soon finished when Ecuador missed the first two penalties and it was impossible coming back in the match for them.
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July 05, 2024, 12:49:11 AM
We got a great surprise in today's match, where Argentina and Ecuador played an interesting game. Although in this game I would say Ecuador team played much better than Argentina and they performed well but unfortunately lost because of their luck. The two teams were almost evenly matched in attack and possession, and Ecuador had more shots on target than Argentina. We saw Argentina score a goal before half-time in the game, but Ecuador equalized late in the half-time. The game went on for a long time but neither team could score which led to the match going to penalties where Argentina won by one goal. Although the penalty shootout depends largely on the luck of each team and Argentina were lucky enough to enter the semi-finals on penalties, but Ecuador had a bad luck which saw them exit from the Copa America.
Until halftime, Argentina's style of play was good, with attack and possession Argentina leading the way. But Argentina's style of play was not good after half time. Ecuador had more attack and possession after halftime. Ecuador might have won 2-1 had Ecuador not missed the penalty. Ecuador had bad luck, they played really well. With the match tied at 1-1, the game was awarded to a penalty shootout. Penalty shootou Messi missed the first goal. Emiliano Martínez's brilliant save gave Argentina the win and qualification to the semi-finals. Congratulations to the Argentina team.
I was totally shocked to see Ecuador perform against Argentina, this match started around 2am in my country time which everyone knows that it was midnight in our side that was the only reason I couldn't watch the match till end but a surprise to me to see they even ended in extra time and the penalty was taken, I wasn't expecting it to end like this, my thoughts was that Argentina will win the match freely without any stress but unfortunately it turned another way round but thank to EMLIANO Martinez that did a very great job by saving them again like the way he did previously in 2021 COPA America, 2022 WORLD Cup, and again 2024 COPA America, he is indeed a THE MOST CLUTCH GOALKEEPER IN THE WORLD.
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July 05, 2024, 12:45:08 AM


The Argentina team qualified for the semi-finals. But I would say Argentina should perform better if they want to win the Copa title.

There are some that HARUD might have maximized their current performance and match schemes because they see from what happens in terms of performance, Argentina seems to be still less optimal in terms of teamships and teamwork and even for some of their players still like prioritizing individual skills themselves and hope More to Leo in his game.
Although it is also not a mistake because Leo is also still hopeful for Argentina, but on the other hand it becomes dependence in the end.

In this match in terms of players, Argentina Jaub actually dominates because their squad is much more complex than Ecuador but in terms of the game, especially in 90 minutes of the match, it seems that there is nothing that makes Argentina really superior and their favorite odds only become a little condition Silly because their big names are not too suitable for the game.

Obviously they have to make changes because even though they are still a favorite, their performance is still quite boring for a big team.
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July 05, 2024, 12:32:51 AM
We got a great surprise in today's match, where Argentina and Ecuador played an interesting game. Although in this game I would say Ecuador team played much better than Argentina and they performed well but unfortunately lost because of their luck. The two teams were almost evenly matched in attack and possession, and Ecuador had more shots on target than Argentina. We saw Argentina score a goal before half-time in the game, but Ecuador equalized late in the half-time. The game went on for a long time but neither team could score which led to the match going to penalties where Argentina won by one goal. Although the penalty shootout depends largely on the luck of each team and Argentina were lucky enough to enter the semi-finals on penalties, but Ecuador had a bad luck which saw them exit from the Copa America.
Until halftime, Argentina's style of play was good, with attack and possession Argentina leading the way. But Argentina's style of play was not good after half time. Ecuador had more attack and possession after halftime. Ecuador might have won 2-1 had Ecuador not missed the penalty. Ecuador had bad luck, they played really well. With the match tied at 1-1, the game was awarded to a penalty shootout. Penalty shootou Messi missed the first goal. Emiliano Martínez's brilliant save gave Argentina the win and qualification to the semi-finals. Congratulations to the Argentina team.
Argentina led the game in the first half but after the first half the Ecuadorian players became desperate for goals. They continued to attack the Argentine team's defense one by one, which allowed Rodriguez of the Ecuadorian football team to lead his team.The match ended in penalties as the full game was a 1-1 draw. Argentina will need to double their performance if they are to win the semi-finals. In today's match, Argentina performed very modestly, maybe the fans are not satisfied with their performance. However, Argentina won on penalties which was fortunate. All the players and coaches of Argentina team should pay attention so that their team players can fully prepare themselves and play well for the next match as their opponents in the semi finals will be strong.
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