Copa CONMEBOL Sudamericana 2024 - page 3.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 27, 2024, 06:12:38 PM

Athletico was crushed by Racing 4-1 in the first leg and, whatever happened, the strategy adopted by the club didn't work. It seems that the club wanted to simplify things but underestimated the Argentine club. The goal from the outside of the area by Argentine midfielder Almendra was one of the highlights of the match.

I was expecting Athletico to make it to the semis, with only Corinthians and Cruzeiro from the brazilian clubs advancing to the next round, now I'm rooting for Cruzeiro!

They simplified it so much that they forgot to train the defense and the goalkeeper. I don't know what strategy they used, but they should never try it again. I understand that Racing is strong, but nothing justifies this amount of goals.

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Athletico was crushed by Racing 4-1 in the first leg and, whatever happened, the strategy adopted by the club didn't work. It seems that the club wanted to simplify things but underestimated the Argentine club. The goal from the outside of the area by Argentine midfielder Almendra was one of the highlights of the match.

I was expecting Athletico to make it to the semis, with only Corinthians and Cruzeiro from the brazilian clubs advancing to the next round, now I'm rooting for Cruzeiro!

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 26, 2024, 09:12:43 PM

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I mentioned above what I thought of the game. But something I noticed is that Memphis seems like an average player. I could be wrong, but he didn't do much on the field. He only came on after Fortaleza was in its "varzea team" mode. I'm looking forward to seeing him play in a big game.

Hehe, let's see in a few games about the potential of Memphis
In my opinion, most of foreign players think that they will play like a boss in campeonato brasileiro but the reality is: brasileirao is the most competitive league, sometimes even small clubs are able to stop a bigger team

Right now Corinthias is already classified together with Lanus

Only waiting for Cruzeiro and Racing to confirm their classification
The semi finals will be very interesting

I agree, and since Fortaleza is gone, I will follow Corinthians. I thought Fortaleza would have a similar campaign as last time. But now I have to root for any Brazilian team. And I still want to see the all-powerful Memphis in the games, because I have yet to see him play when the game is not won.

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Quote from: Pumared on September 26, 2024, 07:23:30 AM

I mentioned above what I thought of the game. But something I noticed is that Memphis seems like an average player. I could be wrong, but he didn't do much on the field. He only came on after Fortaleza was in its "varzea team" mode. I'm looking forward to seeing him play in a big game.

Hehe, let's see in a few games about the potential of Memphis
In my opinion, most of foreign players think that they will play like a boss in campeonato brasileiro but the reality is: brasileirao is the most competitive league, sometimes even small clubs are able to stop a bigger team

Right now Corinthias is already classified together with Lanus

Only waiting for Cruzeiro and Racing to confirm their classification
The semi finals will be very interesting

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 25, 2024, 07:36:54 PM

Hey @Pumared
Do you have anything to say about Fortaleza? Cheesy

Incredibly, they lost to Corinthians again 3x0
To me it's a good moment to bet on Corinthians, another earned bet to me hehehehe

I mentioned above what I thought of the game. But something I noticed is that Memphis seems like an average player. I could be wrong, but he didn't do much on the field. He only came on after Fortaleza was in its "varzea team" mode. I'm looking forward to seeing him play in a big game.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 25, 2024, 06:26:50 PM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 25, 2024, 05:43:03 PM

Now the question is, will Corinthians remain the favorite until they win the title?

Just because they thrashed Fortaleza, you already think they're the favorite? Tongue

In fact, this is something that even Corinthians' biggest enemy can't help but say... Corinthians is doing very well in the championship and has a good chance of winning.

I believe that Athletico will be able to beat Racing and be a problem for Corinthians in the next match, but it's still too early to bet on that result... let's see what happens until then.
But, if I had to bet on a winner for this championship today, my bet would certainly be in favor of Corinthians.

Have you also seen the value of the prizes that Corinthians has already secured? US$900,000 in the group stage, US$600,000 in the round of 16, US$700,000 in the quarterfinals and US$800,000 in the semifinals. CONMEBOL also estimates that the champion of the competition will receive US$6 million in prize money and the runner-up US$2 million.

That's a good amount of money! I didn't know the prizes were so generous in this tournament. Maybe it happened like in the Copa do Brasil, where in the past the prizes were irrelevant, but in order to capture more engagement in recent years the organizer decided to give out super prizes as well. Football that is really well managed is a money-making machine. It's a shame that most club managers can't raise money properly, they only think about spending it:

Website with prize amounts for the Copa do Brasil (in Portuguese):

https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/esportes/futebol/copa-do-brasil-2024-veja-os-valores-das-premiacoes-de-cada-fase/#:~:text=Neste%20ano%2C%20o%20vencedor%20da,R%24%204%2C5%20milhões.

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Hey @Pumared
Do you have anything to say about Fortaleza? Cheesy

Incredibly, they lost to Corinthians again 3x0
To me it's a good moment to bet on Corinthians, another earned bet to me hehehehe

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 25, 2024, 05:43:03 PM

Now the question is, will Corinthians remain the favorite until they win the title?

Just because they thrashed Fortaleza, you already think they're the favorite? Tongue

In fact, this is something that even Corinthians' biggest enemy can't help but say... Corinthians is doing very well in the championship and has a good chance of winning.

I believe that Athletico will be able to beat Racing and be a problem for Corinthians in the next match, but it's still too early to bet on that result... let's see what happens until then.
But, if I had to bet on a winner for this championship today, my bet would certainly be in favor of Corinthians.

Have you also seen the value of the prizes that Corinthians has already secured? US$900,000 in the group stage, US$600,000 in the round of 16, US$700,000 in the quarterfinals and US$800,000 in the semifinals. CONMEBOL also estimates that the champion of the competition will receive US$6 million in prize money and the runner-up US$2 million.

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It seems that Corinthians' recent signings are having an effect. In the game against Fortaleza, they managed to score 3 more goals, completely dominating the match, for a team that had already been playing poorly. Now the question is, will Corinthians remain the favorite until they win the title?

I found this bizarre, because if I had bet on this match, I'd definitely have bet on either Fortaleza winning or drawing with Corinthians.

As for the other brazilian clubs, I believe that Athletico-PR will advance to the semi-finals and Cruzeiro too. At least one of these teams, besides 'Timão', should advance to the next phase and maybe we will have a brazilian champion club this year.

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At the beginning of the game, Fortaleza seemed like they would achieve something. But they should have done something in the first half. They didn't, I admit they tried. In the second half, after the first goal, it was all downhill. It seemed like they had never played before. The defense looked scared. It was distressing to watch.

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 20, 2024, 08:36:41 AM

Fortaleza really were unrecognizable in this match
The team has dropped a lot in the last 3 or 5 games, I don't know how it happened, but Corinthians was very lucky to get the win away from home and probably secure qualification (or at least make it easier for the game in SP).
Why do you think Fortaleza have got so much worse?

I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that!

Fortaleza was indeed unrecognizable in that game against Corinthians, even for a team that had already been playing poorly since the defeat against Botafogo. But even so, what a disappointment in that match... so many mistakes on the field, all the players "lost" in all areas of the field and the result could not have been different: the 2-0 defeat cost them their invincibility at Arena Castelão and also their honor, in addition to putting their qualification for the next phase of the South American Cup at risk. In my opinion, 2-0 was not enough.

I believe that this defeat will "wake up" Fortaleza, but not to the point of believing in a turnaround in the second game. Although I support Fortaleza, my bet will be in favor of the "timão" in the next match.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 20, 2024, 06:06:04 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on September 20, 2024, 08:36:41 AM

Fortaleza really were unrecognizable in this match
The team has dropped a lot in the last 3 or 5 games, I don't know how it happened, but Corinthians was very lucky to get the win away from home and probably secure qualification (or at least make it easier for the game in SP).
Why do you think Fortaleza have got so much worse?

I think this is absurd too. Corinthians, which had already been playing poorly, practically dominated the match, not giving Fortaleza any breathing room to develop a strategy to overcome this situation and reach victory. Could Corinthians' recent signings have been the right decision for the team, although there are doubts about how much they cost the team?

It was a controlled game for Corinthians and after that Fortaleza was lost, it looked like a game in a suburb. Fortaleza's defense was nervous and couldn't play and keep possession of the ball. It will be a massacre at Corinthians' home ground.

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 20, 2024, 08:36:41 AM

Fortaleza really were unrecognizable in this match
The team has dropped a lot in the last 3 or 5 games, I don't know how it happened, but Corinthians was very lucky to get the win away from home and probably secure qualification (or at least make it easier for the game in SP).
Why do you think Fortaleza have got so much worse?

I think this is absurd too. Corinthians, which had already been playing poorly, practically dominated the match, not giving Fortaleza any breathing room to develop a strategy to overcome this situation and reach victory. Could Corinthians' recent signings have been the right decision for the team, although there are doubts about how much they cost the team?

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 20, 2024, 08:36:41 AM

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Please don't stop. I still need to complain about Fortaleza. What a horrible game they had. For those who reached the final last year, they are terrible. I even thought it was a scam. I want to see how they will deal with this situation for the next game at Corinthians' home.

Fortaleza really were unrecognizable in this match
The team has dropped a lot in the last 3 or 5 games, I don't know how it happened, but Corinthians was very lucky to get the win away from home and probably secure qualification (or at least make it easier for the game in SP).
Why do you think Fortaleza have got so much worse?

I've been noticing for a while that they've been playing badly at home. But they're doing well away from home, so at least that gives me a little hope for a comeback. But then I remember that it's at Corinthians' stadium and I accept that it's unlikely that they'll achieve anything.

I say unlikely because it's still Corinthians, who are fighting to avoid relegation.

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Quote from: Pumared on September 19, 2024, 10:20:51 AM

Please don't stop. I still need to complain about Fortaleza. What a horrible game they had. For those who reached the final last year, they are terrible. I even thought it was a scam. I want to see how they will deal with this situation for the next game at Corinthians' home.

Fortaleza really were unrecognizable in this match
The team has dropped a lot in the last 3 or 5 games, I don't know how it happened, but Corinthians was very lucky to get the win away from home and probably secure qualification (or at least make it easier for the game in SP).
Why do you think Fortaleza have got so much worse?

Quote from: alegotardo on September 19, 2024, 07:37:33 PM

I'm currently betting on a very favorable result for Athlético Paranaense.
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I'm confident!

If you managed to bet on Athletico yesterday, congratulations, the team got a good win playing at home, quite important
It would have been better if they'd scored two goals to put their minds at ease for the game in Argentina, but the team has already done the basics, which is to win at home.
Now they have to hold on to the result in Argentina (not easy)
I believe that Athletico will qualify, especially since, as you said, the team is used to playing in the Sudamericana

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I'm currently betting on a very favorable result for Athlético Paranaense.

They've already won this tournament in 2018 and 2021, so they already know what "the path" is to winning the third championship.

Unfortunately, they're not in their best moment, because despite reaching the quarterfinals, they've only won one of the last five matches they've played and the Uruguayan coach is already starting to feel the pressure from the board and the fans for better results.

They started well... winning with four victories in the group stage, but the defeats to Sportivo Ameliano and Danubio took them out of the lead. They got past Cerro Porteño, after drawing away from home and winning at home. They got two victories in the round of 16. Now... they need to show strength again to advance to the semifinals.

I'm confident!

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 18, 2024, 09:07:02 AM

Doesn't anyone watch the Copa Sudamericana anymore?
If no one answers, I'll stop posting in this thread Wink

The Cup is currently in the quarter-finals and there are still 4 Brazilian teams left: Corinthians, Fortaleza, Cruzeiro and Athletico-PR

Yesterday Corinthians finally got some joy and managed to beat Fortaleza 2x0 and finally Yuri Alberto scored a goal that helped the team secure the victory
And I deserved to win another bet, after all the team had already made me lose a lot of money believing in them hehehehe Cheesy

Today's game is Lanus (Argentina) vs Independiente Medellín (Colombia)
Tomorrow there's Cruzeiro vs Libertad (Paraguay) and Racing (Argentina) vs Athletico-PR

Please don't stop. I still need to complain about Fortaleza. What a horrible game they had. For those who reached the final last year, they are terrible. I even thought it was a scam. I want to see how they will deal with this situation for the next game at Corinthians' home.

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Doesn't anyone watch the Copa Sudamericana anymore?
If no one answers, I'll stop posting in this thread Wink

The Cup is currently in the quarter-finals and there are still 4 Brazilian teams left: Corinthians, Fortaleza, Cruzeiro and Athletico-PR

Yesterday Corinthians finally got some joy and managed to beat Fortaleza 2x0 and finally Yuri Alberto scored a goal that helped the team secure the victory
And I deserved to win another bet, after all the team had already made me lose a lot of money believing in them hehehehe Cheesy

Today's game is Lanus (Argentina) vs Independiente Medellín (Colombia)
Tomorrow there's Cruzeiro vs Libertad (Paraguay) and Racing (Argentina) vs Athletico-PR

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After the first game and a good victory, Corinthians now will play the second game against Bragantino
Take a look at the odds:

I think Corinthians have great chances to win again without too much pressure, playing at home with total support of the fans
But incredibly (or not haha), in the last 5 games between the two teams, Corinthians have won 1, drawn 1 and lost 3
The statistics are not in Corinthians' favor

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Quote from: alegotardo on August 13, 2024, 07:05:07 PM

Well...
I looked for the history of these clashes here and discovered that Corinthinas hasn't beaten Bragantino since 2022, but Corinthians has an advantage in terms of overall history... they have already faced each other in 61 games, of which Corinthians has 25 wins and 21 draws and Bragantino only won 15 times.

Now, Corinthians will try to win this competition and win all the titles possible for a Brazilian club, since the South American trophy is the only one missing for them to be champions of everything, and complete their collection (just like the Internacional Tongue

).

But, to achieve this, Corinthians still needs to win a sequence of seven games and Bragantino is the first of these challenges.
In any case, I'm rooting and betting on Corinthians to win.

Congratulations @alegotardo, you've also won the bet Cool

The odds were very good, 3.50 and finally Corinthians won an important match and I managed to recover some of the loss they've already given me in this season hahahah

With Talles Magno recently signed and now the arrival of Venezuelan player José Martinez, it seems that the club's management is trying to improve and it may be that now the team will get a good improvement, finally
Corinthians' next game will be on the August 20th, and they will be playing at home, with a good chance of qualifying

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