Topic: Copycat Signatures: Chipmixer and Wasabi - page 3. (Read 1829 times)

Positive counter feedbacks aren't a correct use of the trust system, and I'll never understand why it's such a common practice.

We have the "Neutral" tag for these kind of comments

I just came across this issue recently after wondering why Gyrsur had -2 trust.

This is not an acceptable use of the trust system and I will be leaving him a counter-feedback until his negatives are removed.

- While trollish, his actions don't imply that he would be untrustworthy when it comes to conducting any sort of business on the forum.

- He's not wearing the signature anymore.

He's been here since 2012 and doesn't deserve to have his forum reputation tarnished in this manner.

  they seem to give these caps to all sortsa riffraff  

Look at their profile Lauda, they are only 11 years old. They signed up when they were 3. Have some respect.


Much better! Nicely done capwearer.

Sigh. It is advisable to seek some counseling as you seem to certain aspects of maturity. I wish you the best. 

It is, but lose the rolling eyes. You know that these policies are good for the forum. 

I believe that Gyrsur did not want to cause financial damage to Chipmixer or ruin their reputation. Most likely, it was an attempt to change the BB-code itself and the Chipmixer signature was chosen as a sample. When I studied the BB-code I also at first looked how the already prepared signatures are made.

When a child learns to draw, he first draws other people's drawings, the musician plays other people's music. Wait for Gyrsur's answer before accusing him of plagiarism.

In my opinion you created a panic on an empty place.   

Like I said: trolling.

Please make this your personal text

I have sent him the following, asking the second time for a reply:

What a totally inept reply from someone who you informed about the goings-on. He should have at the very least have been courteous enough to reply with an explanation.

This is all I have got.

What is signature? I do not understand: what do you tell about?

"You know you've made it when others are copying you"

Credit : unsure

It's better to ask theymos. In case of signatures, there no direct theft. After my theft are you forbidden to keep using it or what?

Or if we will think in such way, will it be proper decision to ban you from here, if the "owner" of this thought about "plagiarism is theft" (or at least his children, don't forget - 70 years after death copyright works) will appear here and ask us to do it? Or if the owner (what it's better fit here) of this thought - "Plagiarism is against rules because the person who plagiarize benefits from what copied and pasted without any effort. Plagiarism is against rules because it's kind of theft, not because of spamming." (i even see exactly the same idea but in other words here from another user) will ask us to ban you for plagiarism and theft.

Plagiarism is against rules because the person who plagiarize benefits from what copied and pasted without any effort. Plagiarism is against rules because it's kind of theft, not because of spamming. There are many spammers in the forum that are not banned. But high quality posters are banned even if they plagiarize only once.  

Stealing signature design is kind of plagiarism and kind of theft.  

This will be unpopular post, but let me clear:

1. There no real damage to anyone from that behavior

What i mean under this term?

- Is there any real damage to ChipMixer? I doubt.
It would appear, if for example under Chipmixer-style signature there was malicious services. Or if some another mixer (or maybe service) which would advertised here used this style. Or if signature were changed to false claims ((how it was in Vadi and kzv case at first, where "Chipmixer" was near terms "narcotraffic" and "terrorism") which would damage Chipmixer reputation. But noone of this there here. Even vice versa, if people see such colors, they be reminded about real service under this signature.

-Is there  any real damage to forum?
Of course not. It very different from text plagiarism. With plagiarism of posts, forum become more polluted with spam and repetitive quotes. There become harder to find anything useful and even to stay on forum (it's cringe to see one sentences many times).
But if this true against signatures? Of course not. For forum member or newbie there no difference to scroll down shitpost with original signature or copy.

Soooooooo......

This is unethical, to use product of another's labor, even if original will stay with owner. It's also unethical to use signature while one company is paying for creator and another is not. Yes, this is annoying (mostly for DarkStar and Chipmixer applicants) to see such things.

But as i said above: Wasabi not promoting themselves here, so there no financial interest nor to Wasabi nor to Gyrsur. There no victims (as i showed above). There no harm to forum. So, what's a problem?

I understand DarkStar's thoughts, and Loycev, and Lauda. If you from childhood is under control of copyright ideology (OBEY - saying Netflix, OBEY - saying Microsoft, OBEY - saying any patent troll) it's hard to think independently. But please, use hyperbolization, it's very useful in such cases. Today some people want to ban someone for using three words in the same disposition with same three colors on black background, and tomorrow we will ban someone for using word "Sky" (like it was with NoMan'sSky or Microsoft). So please, stop this shit and move forward.

The signature (which IIRC roslinpl made back in 2017) has been in use for over 2 years now. I think it is extremely clear that the intention of the signature was not to encourage people to copy it (?) and then attempt seek damages.

Personally I think this case is a lot more clear cut than Vadi2323 - you can't make the claim that stealing a signature design to promote a different service is parody.

In russian local there many such people which accepting the idea of his signature. Also, this is obvious parody, are we here semi anarchist society, or we just another branch of Apple or Samsung which loves to fight in court about 4 camera design, eh?

Also, while ChipMixer is not complaining, you can't do anything about that. There no crimes without a victim.  


Stop your idiotic nonsense. You can't "steal" design, thoughts, words and other abstract things. You can steal a car, because of car get stolen, the owner will left without a car. But if i take signature design, ChipMixer will not lose it own.

Or if we are going in such way, then i must tell one thing: "LAUDA IS THIEF, IT HAD STOLEN ALL MY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, I NEED THEM BACK". Firstly - return them to me, and only then start to hunt some other.

Or i will agree for 100 btc compensation.

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P.S: Yes, i'm full of that copyrighting shit. Go copyright your anus, dog (not only to Lauda, if you're a copy slave, then it's also for you)

P.P.S: Yes, maybe it's unethical to take someones signature design, but it will be more worse to create here patent and copyright trolls (like in real world)

Thank you.

What I did was to start the thread to question what was going on regarding the signature but it seems user Gyrsur is the only one that is displaying it.

The copycat signature is even showing the "c" on either side on the signature - I presume "c" was intended for Chipmixer in the Chipmixer signature but what is happening with the Wasabi one-off signature is strange, hence this thread.

The user Gyrsur has not signed in since yesterday so is probably unaware of what is going on so we look forward to him posting here after he read the PM (sent by Lauda) and this thread.

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