Topic: CoronaHoax 2020: Coronavorus isn't real - page 3. (Read 941 times)

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Denialism: Definition

“In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.”

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I have seen nothing to indicate the Coronavirus is anything other then what it appears to be the beginning of a global pandemic. This is not some new never seen before thing. Such pandemics have happened before though the last one was H1N1 influenza in 1918 so it is outside of living memory.

Most young people who get it under 40 years old will recover as the mortality rate is 0.2% or one chance in 500 of death. The odds get much worse in the elderly.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981


The data in the graph is from a published Chinese report that analyzed some 44,000 cases. But if you don't trust the Chinese or the Italians who have reported similar numbers we also have some US data that indicate that the reported mortality rates out of China are accurate.

Ten deaths have been traced so far to Life Care Center of Kirkland. A further 15 of the the remaining 69 residents are reported to have been transferred to hospitals in the last 48 hours.

We don't know the average age of the population there but presumably its high as the facility is a nursing home. That gives us a mortality rate of approximately 10/79 = 12.6% with a further 19% hospitalization rate presumably for severe or critical illness. This looks to be on par or perhaps even worse worse then the Chinese data but these folks are probably especially vulnerable due to chronic health conditions that necessitate them living in a nursing home.

Also of note of the initial first responders who responded to 911 calls from the facility before the outbreak was diagnosed a total of 31 firefighters and 3 police officers would ultimately be quarantined or isolated. As of this writing, 18 are showing symptoms. That gives us an idea of how contagious this is and why containment will at best slow this down slightly.

Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/06/us/coronavirus-washington-state.html
https://www.foxnews.com/health/washington-care-center-hospitalizes-residents
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/family-members-of-residents-at-life-care-center-of-kirkland-nursing-home-decry-response-to-coronavirus/
http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9a9b-fea8db1a8f51

Edit: Zerohedge is reporting that there was 69 residents at the facility after not before 15 were transferred to the hospital. In this case mortality so far is 10/94 = 10.6% in this elderly and vulnerable population.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-awful-situation-washington-moves-take-over-nursing-home-epicenter-outbreak

One nice thing about CV. People are increasing business as they buy a bunch of unnecessary stuff, preparing for the CV scam. What will happen after the scam is over, and people realize they never needed all this stuff? Business might stop, because people have no money left to buy the things they need for life. REAL panic, then.


Coronavirus a Global Scam - This Is All You Need To See




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I'd say it is more likely that 'they' are using it to excuse a financial meltdown.  Financial meltdowns (or 'resets') are both necessary and a fundamental part of 'leadership' for people/families who work at high levels within (and with) social systems.

Governance/banking is ultimately a 'con(fidence) game.'  It is important to maintain confidence meaning that you need a cover story when you do a crisis cycle.  Traditionally they use war.

It's almost impossible for most people to break away from the 'making money' aspect of these things.  Money is just a tool used to achieve an ends (sustaining dominance and the ability to control.)  It's actually a pretty funny joke to the leadership class, or really anyone who has an understanding of what 'money' actually is.

It is easier to eat than a lot of hoaxes we had thru the years, I can say I believe this one but talk erbola or that zyka thing and you can make me laugh, just like those fake vids on the news of whatever the hell supposedly happend in england few years back.

Seems that China started the CV through injecting it into some people in what the people thought was standard immunization. Then it became active, and spread. Now the government has the right to use marshal law to quarantine people. and the people have been tricked into being quarantined by the tricky CV disease that government set up in the first place.

It's all about a handful of people in the China government controlling all the rest. Soon this same control thing will be used in governments around the world.

In the USA, Trump had done a lot of good. But his good is causing him to have a lot of control. When the US Gov starts using the CV, and then implements marshal law, Trump, having the control he does already, will be able to take over much more easily.

You  are right but i feel it's the loss of their own country  they're being financially disrupted and trade agreements with different countries are closing. Because it is often calculated by paying money it's never possible to run a whole country with assistance.

We know that there are always some side story of the news there are something that is left behind.
We know that there are some information's that isn't being told to the public but no matter what it is maybe it is to prevent something else.
Maybe this virus was created to make some money for some company we couldn't know.

One thing is certain, you'd want to be a face mask producer or seller these days.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51363132
Although this is a tragedy it's intriguing how the opportunity is sometimes wating to manifest itself. If you had a case of face masks stashed somewhere in the basement, you could now sell them for 3 times the price and they'd all get sold in a matter of minutes.

What you describe is an exaggerated and extreme reaction of an authoritarian government risking their citizens' wellbeing to avoid more geopolitical reputation tarnishment. The fact China is doing this is, as usual, absurd and borders human rights abuse, and it deserves to be reported and criticized.

HOWEVER, I am arguing that the report on the virus itself is overblown. The novel coronavirus is dangerous but not nearly as much as painted. Wars, famines and pests that are happening throughout the globe that will have much worst effects (such as the East African locust swarm, the ongoing hell within Lybian/Syrian/Yemeni civil wars, the Uighurs' plight) are severely underreported in international headlines in favour of a virus that has sufficient international attention and care.

Overblown. I think it's under reported and under played. Well, now, the middle of February it's in the news but relatively nothing was in the news when Wuhan was quarantined.

Think about it a city where they put gravel 8 feet high across the road to prevent cars from using the highway; and where people are quarantined in their home. And, god forbid, if they're found to be infected are taken, not to a hospital, but a quarantine center where they will not receive medical care and will die or survive on their own.

This is not a common flu.  Have you ever seen cities quarantined before? I certainly haven't.

It is overblown. Coronavirus is a serious respiratory illness but one that isn't as dangerous as illnesses we already have. I think the fact it's a novelty virus really boost its popularity.

Nations and international organizations are declaring emergency status only so they can perform certain types of preparatory measures. These measures are only doable when such status is declared. They don't actually think it is an emergency. Hence why closing borders is a massive exaggeration.

However, claiming that this virus which has killed a few hundreds doesn't exist... that actually feels like a lowlife thing to do. Completely disregarding lost lives.

If it is true that the first case of 'novel coronavirus 2019' was on the first day that a new mandatory forced vaccination went into effect as per my other post, Dec 1 2019, then that is to suspicious for me personally to just write off.

The mandatory vaccination law simply says that everyone has to go in for their vaccines which will be whatever the state wants to put in them.  Local officials are responsible for compliance and parents are responsible for making sure that their kids get the shots.  No questions asked.  

Wuhan just so happens to be an early (if not THE early) 5G deployment.  The technology is very very good at tracking what people are up to with fine granularity and at an individual level.  Indeed, even more 5G towers were hastily put up to 'help with the outbreak'.  Whatever that means.

What if the initial cases, at least, were simply reactions to whatever was in some new vaccine concoction?  What would we expect to see?

 - I would suggest that the entire world would go into overdrive to cover up the vaccine angle.  Vaccination is a hugely important and highly critical project among the 'leadership' these days and I would expect desperate measures to protect it.  One thing would be to invent some salacious story (like bat eating) and distribute it broadly on social media.  Check.  (That story seemed fishy to me from day one both because it doesn't make much sense scientifically and because of the way it was promoted in social media.)

 - Another would be to go into overdrive on censoring anything and anyone who called anything but the certified acceptable official story-line.  Check.

One interesting data-point is the 'coronavirus simulation 201' which was done by Johns Hopkins, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and others a few months before the outbreak.  Some people find it a little bit suspicious.  What if some entity outside of China 'assisted' with the Chinese vaccination program and had some idea of what might pop up?  I mean some of these NGO's which run around the world do a lot of 'assisting' with a lot of country's vaccination programs.  No government or media is every going to say anything negative about the WHO or Gates no matter what they do.  Ever.  They'll do anything necessary to run cover for these people...for some reason...

IMHO media actually seem to be downplaying it. I've never seen the horror footages from China shown on TV news, for example the couple being loaded into a white metal cube with the woman screaming as the truck drives away. Or the woman in a car that got blocked by the police, yanked out and then injected with an unknown substance before being dragged away.

Coronavirus has become the center of attention of the world where the industry has spread the news that actually happened there, so whatever people say about the hoax news they will use for this opportunity, clearly this coronavirus has become international public news.

It was not as big an issue as it has been made, I hope China will overcome it.

Yeah, the authorities are going to let the media report lies about how bad this is at the expense of all other industries losing billions of dollars. It's all a big conspiracy and all governments are involved, so that the media could sell more newspapers.

Actually, all viruses have lots of stuff in common.

Consider that unencrypted data from a completely different OS, can be read by almost any other modern OS these days.

No matter where you read it, it's a complete nonsense. Influenza, HIV or Coronavirus have nothing in common. It's almost like trying to start MacOS executable on MS-DOS, but even more stupid.

People who are writing these things are just combining random drugs in their "articles" to get more traffic.