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March 05, 2020, 01:20:50 PM
#47
More numerical value comparison, I see.

You can compare absolute values but again, the flu in that year and covid-19 are operating at different stages of its "infectivity lifetime". The flu had already gone through its whole infection cycle for that year. Can the same be said for the covid-19 virus?
As for your other linked comparison table, I'm just going to point you back to my previous post since the argument's essence is practically unchanged.

Maybe a Harvard Doctor would know
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This all suggests that COVID-19 is a relatively benign disease for most young people, and a potentially devastating one for the old and chronically ill, albeit not nearly as risky as reported.
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html
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Spear the bees
March 05, 2020, 01:14:56 PM
#46
More numerical value comparison, I see.

You can compare absolute values but again, the flu in that year and covid-19 are operating at different stages of its "infectivity lifetime". The flu had already gone through its whole infection cycle for that year. Can the same be said for the covid-19 virus?
As for your other linked comparison table, I'm just going to point you back to my previous post since the argument's essence is practically unchanged.
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March 05, 2020, 01:06:26 PM
#45
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Lets look at some facts.

Average age of the first 31 people who passed away in South Korea is 70 years old.
Before getting the virus, they all had a combination of pre-existing health conditions (e.g. cancer, pneumonia, high blood pressure, kidney problems, brain damage, liver disease, …).
Two of them who passed away underwent an organ transplant shortly before they caught the virus. (yeh being in drugs to suppress immune-system will help)

The average time between being diagnosed with COVID-19 and passing away is 2.5 days in Korea.
Currently 35 listed as died from COVID-19 disease in Korea, age or other particulars unknown at this stage.
Smokers who damaged the lungs fair much worse then average population.


And of course
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53898245
a bad year, i somehow mist the endless news bombardment.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200304145401/https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
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March 05, 2020, 12:29:28 PM
#44
Come on guys - they haven't even got a reliable system for testing and diagnosis, so you can any stats be credible, Then there is the fact that people who have not been immunocompromised often don't show any symptoms, and don't get tested.

In addition most of the deaths related to CV are from secondary causes, because the hospitals have buggered up the body's natural defences.
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Spear the bees
March 05, 2020, 12:20:31 PM
#43
What are you talking about?

56000000 million people die every year. These year so far 9500000 died 3200 of them from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.03%

The worst day for SARS-CoV-2 virus was on the 10th of February. On that day 108 people died in China

BUT, on the same day
26283 people died of Cancer
24641 people died of Heart Disease
4300 people died of Diabetes
and on that day , Suicide, unfortunately, took more lives than the virus by  28 times.
Mosquitos kill 2740 people every day and snakes 137
This feels like it was ripped straight off someone's Facebook wall.

Even avoiding the easy target of assigning the fallacy of relative privation to your post, we can examine some problems with the false equivalency.

The most glaring issue is simply this: you are applying the numerical value of covid-19 deaths (i.e. 108) to that of the numerical value of alternative causes of death.
It is not exactly fair to compare the number of deaths from a viral outbreak in its infancy to the number of deaths from already-developed forms of death.
To elaborate in the context of your examples, note that cancer didn't exactly 'start' in late December... neither did heart disease, nor diabetes and the rest.

Furthermore, let us not forget the importance of statistical weighting and distribution... just because more people die from cows than sharks does not mean that cows are more deadly than sharks.
Consider the fact that the sample encompasses the entire population, but one would certainly say that the chances of dying of a shark attack are higher when living on the coast than deep in the mainland.

That being said, we could arrange similar comparisons with each of your provided examples, though I'm sure by now we should all have some idea of why the comparisons aren't great in evaluating the severity of the virus.
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March 04, 2020, 02:46:31 PM
#42
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 That will be the most important for surviving the epidemia.

What are you talking about?

56000000 million people die every year. These year so far 9500000 died 3200 of them from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.03%

The worst day for SARS-CoV-2 virus was on the 10th of February. On that day 108 people died in China

BUT, on the same day
26283 people died of Cancer
24641 people died of Heart Disease
4300 people died of Diabetes
and on that day , Suicide, unfortunately, took more lives than the virus by  28 times.
Mosquitos kill 2740 people every day and snakes 137
BUT corona spreads in the air which is not happening with other mentioned you had so none of your example is comparable. Grin

@OP,what should we do to save ourselves from getting affected?

Corona less likely to affect you if your immune system is better so try to make yourself healthier and warmer.

Lets help  you a little on the way
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53898245

What helps is:
Anything which help infections against common cold or "the flu"
Wash hands frequently and/or use disinfection tissue often
Have a good immune system
Lots of Vitamine C
Not have preexisting health issues
A warm home
Gloves
And most important some common sense
and this


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March 04, 2020, 02:36:45 PM
#41
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 That will be the most important for surviving the epidemia.

What are you talking about?

56000000 million people die every year. These year so far 9500000 died 3200 of them from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.03%

The worst day for SARS-CoV-2 virus was on the 10th of February. On that day 108 people died in China

BUT, on the same day
26283 people died of Cancer
24641 people died of Heart Disease
4300 people died of Diabetes
and on that day , Suicide, unfortunately, took more lives than the virus by  28 times.
Mosquitos kill 2740 people every day and snakes 137
BUT corona spreads in the air which is not happening with other mentioned you had so none of your example is comparable. Grin

@OP,what should we do to save ourselves from getting affected?

Corona less likely to affect you if your immune system is better so try to make yourself healthier and warmer.
sr. member
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March 04, 2020, 12:57:01 PM
#40
.....
 That will be the most important for surviving the epidemia.

What are you talking about?

56000000 million people die every year. These year so far 9500000 died 3200 of them from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.03%

The worst day for SARS-CoV-2 virus was on the 10th of February. On that day 108 people died in China

BUT, on the same day
26283 people died of Cancer
24641 people died of Heart Disease
4300 people died of Diabetes
and on that day , Suicide, unfortunately, took more lives than the virus by  28 times.
Mosquitos kill 2740 people every day and snakes 137
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March 04, 2020, 12:53:56 PM
#39

If you had to, would you be ready to self-isolate yourself for two weeks?

If i had to, of course i can but need internet to entertain myself


Thank God I have a box of old porn mags from back when we used to use those!  I think I do anyway.  Haven't looked for some time.  IIRC, they pre-date the time when Hustler was showing full penetration.



Do you leave on 1990? We have internet now.
Seriously, try to have medicines and food that will last for a lot of days such as rice, pasta, etc and can be stored in your shelves for a lot of time. That will be the most important for surviving the epidemia.
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March 04, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
#38
Open discussion. Not about what can/should governments do, or who the bad guys are. Assume it's as bad as the Great Influenza of 1918, but we know more now, and we're going to do better this time.

A small percentage will die, many - some that you know and some that you don't know - will be quarantined.

What can you do to help?

1. Stop touching your face
2. Wash your hands with soap frequently
3. Avoid contact with people
4. Take copious amounts of Vitamin C
5. Improve your immune system by eating well, exercise 3+ times a week, sleep 8-10 hours every day
6. If you (or anyone in your family) get(s) sick, self-quarantine yourself and your family
7. Reduce stress, meditate, etc.
 
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March 04, 2020, 12:04:02 PM
#37
The best help that I can do is slamming down fake news that are spreading amidst the outbreak. It really helps when you are informed about what is REALLY HAPPENING. The spread of misinformation is very fatal thing that we just look past our very eyes. It never hurt to share information about the outbreak but please people verify your sources and try to think for yourself. As an example for a fatal result of misinformation I will provide a link to an article and there is a Youtube video that was made for it.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBpKuTrFrw
Article (One of many): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6485125/Woman-suffers-permanent-brain-damage-drinking-liter-soy-sauce.html

Chubbyemu is great.  I especially like this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7M01jV058

Beware 'fake news' sources that say it's fine to have this stuff injected into your blood.  You know; the ones telling people to get the seasonal flu shot.

Probably when they roll out Donald Rumsfeld's coronavirus vaccine to counter this 'emergency' it will be multi-dose just like the flu shots at the grocery store, and probably it will also contain organic mercury.

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March 04, 2020, 12:36:12 AM
#36
Yes COVID-19 disease is responsible for 0.03% deaths this year.
On average 56 Million deaths per year, 9.5 million so far this year and 3200 from the disease.
legendary
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March 03, 2020, 07:46:11 PM
#35
People generally develop an immunition from the virus for some months after they recover from one attack. But this covid-19 comes again on short interval of time. If you want to live, get a stock of food and go on a hideout.

Doubt that is necessary. It's March, this can't go on past May.

IIV
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March 01, 2020, 12:31:02 PM
#34
People generally develop an immunition from the virus for some months after they recover from one attack. But this covid-19 comes again on short interval of time. If you want to live, get a stock of food and go on a hideout.
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March 01, 2020, 12:07:32 PM
#33
Not Medical advice, financial advise, relationship advise or any advise for that matter but:
Rhinoviruses, which infect the cooler upper airway and sinuses, grow best between 33 and 35º C, so inhaling air at about 45º C or twenty minutes will significantly improve the symptoms of a common cold.
Conversely, treating the common cold with aspirin causes a significant increase in the rate of production of the virus.

The influenza viruses, which infect the whole body, grow best at temperatures only slightly below body temperature and at 40º C  will die off after 12-24 hours.
The deep-seated fever-phobia stemming from pre-scientific medicine when fever was perceived as an illness in itself.
Fever is not simply an unpleasant symptom of flu, it is a vital part of the body’s defense mechanism which we should encourage.
Fever may be used as a non-specific treatment of flu.



The primarily spread of viruses is from people sneezing/coughing into their hands and then touching door knobs/handles, lift buttons, public transport holding rails.......  
Mask are for the most part useless as it would also require to wear protective glasses preventing the viruses getting in contact with eye moister.
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February 29, 2020, 09:49:18 AM
#32
The best help that I can do is slamming down fake news that are spreading amidst the outbreak. It really helps when you are informed about what is REALLY HAPPENING. The spread of misinformation is very fatal thing that we just look past our very eyes. It never hurt to share information about the outbreak but please people verify your sources and try to think for yourself. As an example for a fatal result of misinformation I will provide a link to an article and there is a Youtube video that was made for it.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBpKuTrFrw
Article (One of many): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6485125/Woman-suffers-permanent-brain-damage-drinking-liter-soy-sauce.html
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February 29, 2020, 06:36:22 AM
#31
Various forms of  This virus have been around since the 1960s, and this one seems to be less virulent than others. It looks as if more people are dying from the treatment than from the disease itself. It is not particularly deadly to a reasonably healthy person, and he/she may not even see any symptoms. Smokers seem to be more at risk. So are the elderly, but that is probably because they have been forced to take destructive medicines by Big Pharma.


there have been many people who have recovered from corona virus but there hardly some coverage of this news everyday notification from news apps that many people dead this many infected more stock market crash all panic creating news are more , watching this people who don't have corona virus will also be sick  Grin
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February 27, 2020, 03:48:51 AM
#30
Various forms of  This virus have been around since the 1960s, and this one seems to be less virulent than others. It looks as if more people are dying from the treatment than from the disease itself. It is not particularly deadly to a reasonably healthy person, and he/she may not even see any symptoms. Smokers seem to be more at risk. So are the elderly, but that is probably because they have been forced to take destructive medicines by Big Pharma.

The manufactured panic seems to causing a shut down in trade, and a loss of agricultural products, so this is probably the Black Swam even that will be used to reset the now valueless fiat currencies, and to move assets into the hands of the Supra National elite. Unless you have already compromised your health, the best thing you can do is to focus on strengthening your immune system naturally, and avoid adding more infections to overload your body's natural protection. This includes avoiding vaccinations, and other toxic pharmaceuticals. You should also stop smoking, vaping, and the use of recreational drugs. Should you wish to avoid infection, then I believe gloves are more useful than face masks. This is because airborn infection is by droplets, and not by atomisation.
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February 26, 2020, 01:53:32 PM
#29
I think the Coronavirus should help prevent it  Most people in our country should be educated before they can be illiterate ...

Interesting observation.

This is what we get from the tons and tons of campaign spammers that come here and spew shit all the time. Really wish someone would step up the enforcement of that(nudge nudge hellfish) but yeah.

How do you help - if you've went to a country that is currently quarantined due to coronavirus outbreaks, fucking tell the proper authorities.
There are some clusters of people who are infected that their government doesn’t know how they got the virus. Based on this, some people are not disclosing recent travel to dangerous places.

I'm confused on what you're actually saying here. Obviously, there are people out there that have traveled from one country to another that weren't documented for in some way and because of that the government of that country doesn't know if they're sick with the coronavirus.

But if you know that you've went to one of these countries, then inform the proper authorities so they can take action and ensure that you and the people around you are safe. Cause at this point you've probably infected many others.
The government doesn’t know because the people that went to dangerous places didn’t disclose their travel when they reentered the country, probably because they didn’t want to get quarantined for two weeks.

Not everyone who has the virus will show symptoms, so some people may transmit the virus to others without actually being sick.
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February 25, 2020, 06:53:21 AM
#28
We don't waste medical and rescores and that's a lot of help for patients other then this follow what government and who is instructing and help not speared virus , if we find someone with symptoms and he does not know about it taking him to check up other then this we should be safe first so we don't get infected and spread virus
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