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^^^ Fauci said something he didn't know about masks. That's not the bad thing. The bad part is that he knew he didn't know, but said it anyway. Why not simply tell the truth, that he didn't know for sure if he didn't. That's enough to send him to prison right there.
he didn't say masks were effective but we should save them for the healthcare community, now did he?
From the March 2020 interview on 60 minutes that right wing media keeps taking out of context:
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Fauci: …There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?
Fauci: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.
LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?
Fauci: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?
Fauci: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.
LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?
Fauci: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
And what is wrong with what I said? He's downplaying the effectiveness of masks here. He isn't saying they are effective.
He was right when he said this too. Masks will stop droplets from being propelled, but we don't have any idea how the virus spread, apart from it's an upper respiratory virus that is airborne. We don't know the extent of asymptomatic spread or pre-syptomatic spread, how long viral particles stay in the air, whether they are effectively caught in the masks, or whether viral particles just go around the mask due to a poor sealing on the face.
NONE of this was figured out between March 2020 and April 2020 when the guidelines switched and it still isn't even hashed out a year later. This isn't a right wing thing, show me the data. Show me the evidence and the research that masks actually did anything.
The only research I found were laboratory simulated dummies exerting aerosol particles into a mask versus aerosol particles without a mask, which is something I or anyone else disputes. In some studies, they used real people, an example here - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
What we dispute about masks is whether viral spread occurs because people enter a store, sneeze on everyone, and leaves -- and that a mask would somehow solve the issue, or whether the virus spreads through more complicated mechanisms that aren't well understood. And this isn't even taking into account the issue of people reusing masks, touching the mask which presumably has viral particles on it, then touching other people/surfaces, cheap masks that don't create proper seals with the face, ect.
Sure, in a laboratory setting, you can create a circumstance where droplets are captured in a mask, the real world isn't so neat and tidy.
You might ask why this is a bad thing, who cares if people wears masks? Well, Dr. Fauci explained it. It gives people a false sense of confidence. And well, it's also anti science from the party of everything scientific.
It's really not that complicated. Early in the Pandemic there were a lot of unknowns. We didn't have the evidence we have now that the virus was being spread by asymptomatic people or that masks were a very effective way to stop it from spreading. We did have a shortage of masks for medical workers, and we knew that medical workers should be first in line to have them.
You're shitting on Faucci for not knowing what nobody knew. In the interview he was clear, the whole point was the shortage of masks at that time. More people going out and buying masks would result in medical workers being less protected, which overall would be bad for the situation. I don't think it's reasonable to expect anyone to do a better job than the one Fauci did. I think your gripe is purely political and based on the fact that Fauci doing the right thing shined light on the fact that Trump was not fit to handle the situation.
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NONE of this was figured out between March 2020 and April 2020 when the guidelines switched and it still isn't even hashed out a year later. This isn't a right wing thing, show me the data. Show me the evidence and the research that masks actually did anything.
The only research I found were laboratory simulated dummies exerting aerosol particles into a mask versus aerosol particles without a mask, which is something I or anyone else disputes. In some studies, they used real people, an example here - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
The only research I found were laboratory simulated dummies exerting aerosol particles into a mask versus aerosol particles without a mask, which is something I or anyone else disputes. In some studies, they used real people, an example here - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
I googled it for you, some are articles explaining studies, with links to the studies, some are actual studies:
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/media/674/open
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
he didn't say masks were effective but we should save them for the healthcare community, now did he?
From the March 2020 interview on 60 minutes that right wing media keeps taking out of context:
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Fauci: …There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?
Fauci: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.
LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?
Fauci: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?
Fauci: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.
LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?
Fauci: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
And what is wrong with what I said? He's downplaying the effectiveness of masks here. He isn't saying they are effective.
He was right when he said this too. Masks will stop droplets from being propelled, but we don't have any idea how the virus spread, apart from it's an upper respiratory virus that is airborne. We don't know the extent of asymptomatic spread or pre-syptomatic spread, how long viral particles stay in the air, whether they are effectively caught in the masks, or whether viral particles just go around the mask due to a poor sealing on the face.
NONE of this was figured out between March 2020 and April 2020 when the guidelines switched and it still isn't even hashed out a year later. This isn't a right wing thing, show me the data. Show me the evidence and the research that masks actually did anything.
The only research I found were laboratory simulated dummies exerting aerosol particles into a mask versus aerosol particles without a mask, which is something I or anyone else disputes. In some studies, they used real people, an example here - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
What we dispute about masks is whether viral spread occurs because people enter a store, sneeze on everyone, and leaves -- and that a mask would somehow solve the issue, or whether the virus spreads through more complicated mechanisms that aren't well understood. And this isn't even taking into account the issue of people reusing masks, touching the mask which presumably has viral particles on it, then touching other people/surfaces, cheap masks that don't create proper seals with the face, ect.
Sure, in a laboratory setting, you can create a circumstance where droplets are captured in a mask, the real world isn't so neat and tidy.
You might ask why this is a bad thing, who cares if people wears masks? Well, Dr. Fauci explained it. It gives people a false sense of confidence. And well, it's also anti science from the party of everything scientific.
he didn't say masks were effective but we should save them for the healthcare community, now did he?
From the March 2020 interview on 60 minutes that right wing media keeps taking out of context:
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Fauci: …There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?
Fauci: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.
LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?
Fauci: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?
Fauci: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.
LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?
Fauci: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
Although, I feel like some of his fuck ups are now in writing, like him doing a 180 flip on masks without any new scientific evidence to suggest that masks do anything for asymptomatic spread.
Such a stupid take that's been spread by Trump supporters ever since it became obvious that Faucci thinks Trump is a lunatic.
He said there's no reason to wear masks in like March, when there was a shortage on masks for healthcare workers and we didn't know how effective masks were yet.
I hate to break it to you but we still don't know how effective masks are, and Dr. Fauci could have recommended face coverings at the least, like neck gaiters, bandanas, whatever. You can even take an old t shirt and turn that into a mask. Why didn't Fauci recommend those? He said masks were not effective, he didn't say masks were effective but we should save them for the healthcare community, now did he?
Then, some months later, he recommended DOUBLE masking, because it's just "common sense." Was there conclusive evidence that double masking worked? Nope. Did a ground breaking study confirm that double masking was effective? Nope. Why wasn't double masking common sense back in April 2020.
Way back in April, the CDC decided that people wear masks not based on science, but based on case studies that saw masked up societies had lower covid spread. The general public does not use masks properly. They reuse them, they touch their face, their mask, and then other surfaces, they don't close the nose strap, and those shitty masks you get at the gas station don't even create a good seal with the face. That's why Fauci and others suggested to everybody that masks weren't needed to fight an upper respiratory virus, they never were used for it.
This moron has been wrong at every level and this isn't because of Trump.
Here is Fauci saying we can mask up during flu season.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/10/covid-masks-flu-season-fauci
The evidence that masking up during Flu season is overwhelmingly studied and there is a lot of evidence that debunks this bullshit.
Of course Fauci's noble lie makes no sense to anybody on the outside who really thinks about it. But it DOES completely make sense to Fauci and his string pullers.
String pullers: Fauci is a good talker. He has been able to fool most of the public. Even if they are asking questions, now, what he says is being used by the conquerors in Big Pharma, the medical, the government, the media, other governments of the world, etc., to conquer the unsuspecting public in loads of ways. And besides, if Fauci fails, they know how to make him into a scapegoat.
Fauci: How old is he? Over 80? How long will he live? His fun is over simply because of his age. If he really fails, he has had a good life. But there is still a good chance that he can talk himself out of it.
The Sacrifice of Fauci
String pullers: Fauci is a good talker. He has been able to fool most of the public. Even if they are asking questions, now, what he says is being used by the conquerors in Big Pharma, the medical, the government, the media, other governments of the world, etc., to conquer the unsuspecting public in loads of ways. And besides, if Fauci fails, they know how to make him into a scapegoat.
Fauci: How old is he? Over 80? How long will he live? His fun is over simply because of his age. If he really fails, he has had a good life. But there is still a good chance that he can talk himself out of it.
The Sacrifice of Fauci
Mainstream media, Congress, international organizations, and even the occupant the Oval office, with its comforting pastels and affirming stripes, seem to be aligned in preparation for the sacrifice of Tony Fauci.
It couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but what's it really about?
In the world of sociopaths within government and government's corporate and non-profit influencers, there is no loyalty. There is only service to a cause, and when the cause changes or the service is no longer useful, men and women, their lives and reputations, are less than pawns.
For most of last year, Fauci was very useful in painting former president Trump as a science denialist and dictatorial prick. This impacted the election as much as any other factor, including US voter fraud and manipulation, which has been endemic since the late 1700s. Fauci as sympathetic, oft-abused, and wholly innocent fear-monger-in-chief throughout 2020 was an effective tool, and he was utilized well by the opposition party. Naturally, Biden's advisors kept him on.
But as Mark Twain noted, truth eventually puts her shoes on and begins her race. Today, the many Fauci flip flops are common knowledge, and a source of shared laughter across the political aisles. We have reached a vaccination tolerance level in the county of around 50% of adults, and this was only possible through Fauci, taxpayer-funded "free" shots, incessant and maximum use of the Ad Council, the ADA, and mainstream media, and our social media controllers. Each of these forces have been utilized by the powers that be (government connected sociopaths) in ways that would make Goebbels proud, and that truly indicates how the American future may be shaped through propaganda.
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It couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but what's it really about?
In the world of sociopaths within government and government's corporate and non-profit influencers, there is no loyalty. There is only service to a cause, and when the cause changes or the service is no longer useful, men and women, their lives and reputations, are less than pawns.
For most of last year, Fauci was very useful in painting former president Trump as a science denialist and dictatorial prick. This impacted the election as much as any other factor, including US voter fraud and manipulation, which has been endemic since the late 1700s. Fauci as sympathetic, oft-abused, and wholly innocent fear-monger-in-chief throughout 2020 was an effective tool, and he was utilized well by the opposition party. Naturally, Biden's advisors kept him on.
But as Mark Twain noted, truth eventually puts her shoes on and begins her race. Today, the many Fauci flip flops are common knowledge, and a source of shared laughter across the political aisles. We have reached a vaccination tolerance level in the county of around 50% of adults, and this was only possible through Fauci, taxpayer-funded "free" shots, incessant and maximum use of the Ad Council, the ADA, and mainstream media, and our social media controllers. Each of these forces have been utilized by the powers that be (government connected sociopaths) in ways that would make Goebbels proud, and that truly indicates how the American future may be shaped through propaganda.
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Although, I feel like some of his fuck ups are now in writing, like him doing a 180 flip on masks without any new scientific evidence to suggest that masks do anything for asymptomatic spread.
Such a stupid take that's been spread by Trump supporters ever since it became obvious that Faucci thinks Trump is a lunatic.
He said there's no reason to wear masks in like March, when there was a shortage on masks for healthcare workers and we didn't know how effective masks were yet.
Yeah, because 'health care workers' were showing up in droves at Cosco to buy their useless dust masks which don't do shit for anything except drywall dust, and don't even do a good job at that.
And there was such a supply shortage that Trump's admin spent $1M of my tax dollars to send them to Israel (which probably means his Chabad-Lubavitch crime syndicate sponsors who sold them for vast mark-ups to scared-shitless goyim imbecils on the street.)
The whole point of Dr. Fausti's 'noble lie' makes no sense. Show just a tiny amount of critical thinking skills once in a while. Or at least make a feeble stab at doing so; that's how we all start.
Although, I feel like some of his fuck ups are now in writing, like him doing a 180 flip on masks without any new scientific evidence to suggest that masks do anything for asymptomatic spread.
Such a stupid take that's been spread by Trump supporters ever since it became obvious that Faucci thinks Trump is a lunatic.
He said there's no reason to wear masks in like March, when there was a shortage on masks for healthcare workers and we didn't know how effective masks were yet.
Dr. Fauci's email leak by Wapo and Buzzfeed - https://www.axios.com/anthony-fauci-emails-covid-trump-651d1686-2dc2-4233-b899-cc8135ec8403.html
They redacted a lot of info so I'm not sure how clean the emails are, but they seem legitimate.
Nothing in here that seems secretive or anything, pretty much the same message he gave to the public, he gave to people in private. Although, I feel like some of his fuck ups are now in writing, like him doing a 180 flip on masks without any new scientific evidence to suggest that masks do anything for asymptomatic spread.
They redacted a lot of info so I'm not sure how clean the emails are, but they seem legitimate.
Nothing in here that seems secretive or anything, pretty much the same message he gave to the public, he gave to people in private. Although, I feel like some of his fuck ups are now in writing, like him doing a 180 flip on masks without any new scientific evidence to suggest that masks do anything for asymptomatic spread.
If you really want to know the origin of SARS-Cov-2, follow the money.
The scamdemic created 9 new Billionaires and that gates to hell dude expecting a twenty fold return for every dollar infested on vaccination.
He has plenty experience with his windows viruses. Create the problem, have the reaction and sell the solution. Works like a charm.
The scamdemic created 9 new Billionaires and that gates to hell dude expecting a twenty fold return for every dollar infested on vaccination.
He has plenty experience with his windows viruses. Create the problem, have the reaction and sell the solution. Works like a charm.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-vaccine-passport-plans-be-scrapped-telegraph-2021-05-30/
UK vaccine passports are scrapped because it was a stupid idea to begin with. Once your vaccinated, you should stop being paranoid and live your life, and not have to prove your vaccinated to anyone. If you are vulnerable and choose not to get vaccinated, that is your fault. This is technically a "legal" requirement that they are scrapping, I guess a private business has the opportunity to ask you for your vaccination card.hypochondriacs.
UK vaccine passports are scrapped because it was a stupid idea to begin with. Once your vaccinated, you should stop being paranoid and live your life, and not have to prove your vaccinated to anyone. If you are vulnerable and choose not to get vaccinated, that is your fault. This is technically a "legal" requirement that they are scrapping, I guess a private business has the opportunity to ask you for your vaccination card.hypochondriacs.
I read an article this weekend from a big newspaper that said scientist from the Wuhan virus institute were admitted to the hospital in autumn 2019. This would mean there were corona cases before the official reports from China. And the outbreak might really happen in the laboratory and not the fish market. China is of course saying it's all fake news and not true. So far we still didn't have an international independent science team checking were the virus came from.
How big was the newspaper, tall as a house?Yes there were corona cases before official reports, in September, in Italy.
Well known for almost a year now.
I read an article this weekend from a big newspaper that said scientist from the Wuhan virus institute were admitted to the hospital in autumn 2019. This would mean there were corona cases before the official reports from China. And the outbreak might really happen in the laboratory and not the fish market. China is of course saying it's all fake news and not true. So far we still didn't have an international independent science team checking were the virus came from.
Coronavirus Outbreak is pretext for Global digital identification. The insignificant masses argue all day about the parts whilst ignoring the whole because they are too dumb to understand. 
This sentence would fail in a grade 5 essay writing. My young cousin can even create a much understandable and full sentence
"GLOBAL DIGITAL IDENTIFICATION" without context on how it would even be when digital identification exists before pandemic even started.
About the "Parts" while ignoring the "whole" of what?
One centralized global ID database does not currently exist controlled by one central entity ...you profane dummy
gyfts.. i guess you cant read..
i said twice in the post you quoted
influenza is less
and
the reason influenza can be controlled is because influenza has less new strains of concern per season
.. then you reply saying im wrong.. .. but then you say im wrong because you say influenza is less viralent than covid
seems you need to read better
asymptomatic spread is not the chief vector of spread.. because low viral count for asymptomatic, during pre-symptomatic period
but when you have done things like get people to isolate when first symptoms appear.. all thats left in the population are the asymptomatic people...
think about it with common sense
if the asymptomaic people are self isolating.. they cant spread it..
meaning symptomatic people dont become a vector of spread.. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALONE IN THEIR HOME
because they are avoiding people... so the only time it has chance to spread is through people that are not avoiding people. which is the asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic lot
i said twice in the post you quoted
influenza is less
and
the reason influenza can be controlled is because influenza has less new strains of concern per season
.. then you reply saying im wrong.. .. but then you say im wrong because you say influenza is less viralent than covid
seems you need to read better
asymptomatic spread is not the chief vector of spread.. because low viral count for asymptomatic, during pre-symptomatic period
but when you have done things like get people to isolate when first symptoms appear.. all thats left in the population are the asymptomatic people...
think about it with common sense
if the asymptomaic people are self isolating.. they cant spread it..
meaning symptomatic people dont become a vector of spread.. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALONE IN THEIR HOME
because they are avoiding people... so the only time it has chance to spread is through people that are not avoiding people. which is the asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic lot
Read what I said.
I know you said influenza is less. You are wrong on why we can control Influenza better. The traditional flu shot is something like 40 or 50 percent effective, that's because they have to predict which strain is going to spread the most because there are numerous strains that precede flu season, and new strains that originate and spread during flu season because the mutation rate is high. It's not because there are "less" strains per season, there are plenty of strains that exist.
See here https://www.uabmedicine.org/-/flu-strains-explained-and-how-the-vaccine-works
I'm not disputing that symptomatic people should self isolate. All I am saying is that it's pointless for asymptomatic people to wear masks because they aren't chief vectors of transmission, and anyone that is symptomatic would understand they have symptoms and stay home. I am all for symptomatic people wearing masks. But that's not the pitch that was given to us. They said everybody wear masks, no matter what.
Coronavirus Outbreak is pretext for Global digital identification. The insignificant masses argue all day about the parts whilst ignoring the whole because they are too dumb to understand.
This sentence would fail in a grade 5 essay writing. My young cousin can even create a much understandable and full sentence
"GLOBAL DIGITAL IDENTIFICATION" without context on how it would even be when digital identification exists before pandemic even started.
About the "Parts" while ignoring the "whole" of what?
Coronavirus Outbreak is pretext for Global digital identification. The insignificant masses argue all day about the parts whilst ignoring the whole because they are too dumb to understand.
gyfts.. i guess you cant read..
i said twice in the post you quoted
influenza is less
and
the reason influenza can be controlled is because influenza has less new strains of concern per season
.. then you reply saying im wrong.. .. but then you say im wrong because you say influenza is less viralent than covid
seems you need to read better
asymptomatic spread is not the chief vector of spread.. because low viral count for asymptomatic, during pre-symptomatic period
but when you have done things like get people to isolate when first symptoms appear.. all thats left in the population are the asymptomatic people...
think about it with common sense
if the asymptomaic people are self isolating.. they cant spread it..
meaning symptomatic people dont become a vector of spread.. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALONE IN THEIR HOME
because they are avoiding people... so the only time it has chance to spread is through people that are not avoiding people. which is the asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic lot
.........
as for badecker
you still have no clue about viruses or how its analysed.. seems you have gone back to february 2020. in regards to your ignorance of identifying the virus methods.
what a waste of time you have spent on the last 15 months. not learned one single thing
maybe its time you put down your hymn sheet and stop singing he say tune.
they can identify the virus. they have isolated it and used it to then pass the rivers koch and bell tests. and for 15 months yo have been linked to it so stop circling your own lies and just learn and move forward for once
i said twice in the post you quoted
influenza is less
and
the reason influenza can be controlled is because influenza has less new strains of concern per season
.. then you reply saying im wrong.. .. but then you say im wrong because you say influenza is less viralent than covid
seems you need to read better
asymptomatic spread is not the chief vector of spread.. because low viral count for asymptomatic, during pre-symptomatic period
but when you have done things like get people to isolate when first symptoms appear.. all thats left in the population are the asymptomatic people...
think about it with common sense
if the asymptomaic people are self isolating.. they cant spread it..
meaning symptomatic people dont become a vector of spread.. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALONE IN THEIR HOME
because they are avoiding people... so the only time it has chance to spread is through people that are not avoiding people. which is the asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic lot
.........
as for badecker
you still have no clue about viruses or how its analysed.. seems you have gone back to february 2020. in regards to your ignorance of identifying the virus methods.
what a waste of time you have spent on the last 15 months. not learned one single thing
maybe its time you put down your hymn sheet and stop singing he say tune.
they can identify the virus. they have isolated it and used it to then pass the rivers koch and bell tests. and for 15 months yo have been linked to it so stop circling your own lies and just learn and move forward for once
Okay, but then what do we know about the mutation rate for SARS-COV-2 then? Perhaps a lesser mutation rate than influenza (in fact, undoubtedly a lower mutation rate compared to influenza). If your concern is that someone might harbor the virus and cause a mutation, then look at the virus mutation rate and whether the vaccines can combat the variants. It's speculated that the mutation rate is low, and we know the vaccines are extremely effective against variants. So yeah, there might be a "chance" someone can be unvaxed and start to spread the virus, but is that chance something to reasonably worry about? Probably not. And even if the virus mutates, what do we know about the severity of the infection it might cause? Can it mutate to a lesser deadly form?
I know what you are saying, but variants aren't all doom and gloom.
I know what you are saying, but variants aren't all doom and gloom.
covid mutation rate with a new strain of significance. new lineage every 2 weeks
influenza is less..
the reason influenza can be controlled is because influenza has less new strains of concern per season
but influenza is maped out over decades meaning they still have to monitor it and work out which prevelant strain to map
covid has more strains of significance because its new(novel) not common.. which means that strains of concern happen more often.
maybe a bit of research and math will help you.. try not to guess. try to spend a few minutes to research stuff
other factors include. the common flu has a incubation period(time until symptom) of 24-48hours because its common and so your body commonly knows its being invaded so your body reacts sooner. meaning you realise your sick sooner meaning you stay home sooner and not pass it around as much
this self isolation of having a sick day and staying in bed helps reduce the spread.
covid is not common it has not been around for decades so with a incubation period of upto 7 days before seeing a symptom you are breathing it onto people for many days before you realise you have it yourself. so it passes to more people. thus spreads more.
common sense. try it
I have researched and you are wrong on just about every level. Not unusual.
We control influenza because it isn’t as virulent as Covid, and it isn’t as deadly when taking the entire population into consideration. If you striate the demographics, the flu ends up being a bit more deadly to children than COVID but that’s an exception..
Dr. Fauci had said over and over again that asymptomatic COVID spread isn’t the chief vectors of spread, so it doesn’t matter what the incubation period of COVID is. Another reason why masking asymptomatic people is useless.
badecker..
they already know the sequence of the virus. and they can see it does not have any characteristics of man made alterations (krispa)
so no man made 'gene editing'.
the sequences the wuhan lab have for all the corona viruses they have collated over the years are not a match for the covid strain
so again no proof has been found that the strain came from the lab
so while although the lab was doing stuff.. there is no linkage to a strain in the lab vs the wild strain in the wetmarket
.. i know i know you want to say lack of proof is not proof of the opposite.(typical conspiracy mindset)
.. but lack of proof also means you have nothing to prove your assertions
they already know the sequence of the virus. and they can see it does not have any characteristics of man made alterations (krispa)
so no man made 'gene editing'.
the sequences the wuhan lab have for all the corona viruses they have collated over the years are not a match for the covid strain
so again no proof has been found that the strain came from the lab
so while although the lab was doing stuff.. there is no linkage to a strain in the lab vs the wild strain in the wetmarket
.. i know i know you want to say lack of proof is not proof of the opposite.(typical conspiracy mindset)
.. but lack of proof also means you have nothing to prove your assertions
Don't you even remember how they found the sequence of the virus? They took a bunch of pieces of proteins and other stuff, and put them together and, wullah, we have the virus. So the sequence is made up of the parts that they stuck together, no matter what that stuff is. They don't know it's the Covid virus, because they don't have any isolation of the virus to compare it to.
That's the point. They might have a working out-of-the-body exosome. But they never isolated the virus. Whatever they have, it isn't, necessarily, the same thing that is making people sick. In fact, because of the great number of so-called viruses out there, what they have could be just about anything, and maybe something they entirely invented.
It's like circumstantial evidence in court. Circumstantial evidence says "guilty." But there are a lot of past trials where modern forensics has proven past circumstantial evidence wrong.
Let's get to Koch's and Rivers' and do it right, so we really KNOW what we have.
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