Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 31. (Read 29937 times)

badecker..
they already know the sequence of the virus. and they can see it does not have any characteristics of man made alterations (krispa)

so no man made 'gene editing'.

the sequences the wuhan lab have for all the corona viruses they have collated over the years are not a match for the covid strain
so again no proof has been found that the strain came from the lab

so while although the lab was doing stuff.. there is no linkage to a strain in the lab vs the wild strain in the wetmarket

.. i know i know you want to say lack of proof is not proof of the opposite.(typical conspiracy mindset)
.. but lack of proof also means you have nothing to prove your assertions

^^^ Finally you are getting a little of it right. The thing that you are forgetting is that the people in the Wuhan lab, and associated labs in different places in the world, collaborated to speed up evolution of the various forms of the Covid bat virus.

Anybody who looks into it, knows that natural mutations occur very slowly. The labs simply added molecules/atoms to, or subtracted them from, virus spikes until they got what they wanted. It happens that the Coronavirus from the bats are rather easily manipulated like this. So, that's what they used to start their work. Now, they can manipulate all kinds of so-called viruses to turn them into "gain of function" critters.

Watch this video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/qlnmKcLYmvKM/ - to see what I mean. Covid as it is, created in the lab, manipulated into something dangerous for people, with the potential to be manipulated into something many, many times more dangerous whenever they want... essentially bio-warfare.

Need a new term. Start with viral-warfare... really, manipulated-exosome-warfare

covid mutation rate with a new strain of significance. new lineage every 2 weeks
influenza is less..
the reason influenza can be controlled is because influenza has less new strains of concern per season
but influenza is maped out over decades meaning they still have to monitor it and work out which prevelant strain to map

covid has more strains of significance because its new(novel) not common.. which means that strains of concern happen more often.

maybe a bit of research and math will help you.. try not to guess. try to spend a few minutes to research stuff

other factors include. the common flu has a incubation period(time until symptom) of 24-48hours because its common and so your body commonly knows its being invaded so your body reacts sooner. meaning you realise your sick sooner meaning you stay home sooner and not pass it around as much
this self isolation of having a sick day and staying in bed helps reduce the spread.

covid is not common it has not been around for decades so with a incubation period of upto 7 days before seeing a symptom you are breathing it onto people for many days before you realise you have it yourself. so it passes to more people. thus spreads more.

common sense. try it

Okay, but then what do we know about the mutation rate for SARS-COV-2 then? Perhaps a lesser mutation rate than influenza (in fact, undoubtedly a lower mutation rate compared to influenza). If your concern is that someone might harbor the virus and cause a mutation, then look at the virus mutation rate and whether the vaccines can combat the variants. It's speculated that the mutation rate is low, and we know the vaccines are extremely effective against variants. So yeah, there might be a "chance" someone can be unvaxed and start to spread the virus, but is that chance something to reasonably worry about? Probably not. And even if the virus mutates, what do we know about the severity of the infection it might cause? Can it mutate to a lesser deadly form?

I know what you are saying, but variants aren't all doom and gloom.

because with 30% of people not vaccinated.
the virus will continue to spread/exist. and as it passes on it mutates
those mutations then outperform the effectiveness of he vaccine.
meaning eventually start back at stage one of having to develop a new vaccine against the latest strain

so its not fear of this seasons virus i am concerned of. its the lack of slowing down the spread via idiots.. where the idiots are the concern of a future varient
..

as for tash
nice photoshop.. shame you can never link direct source.. but here goes
https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2017/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/300215


https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2018/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/product/902780

oh look the real site does not mention covid test kits

so let me guess tash went to the site right clicked the page. selected 'view page source' and edited the html  tags to put in his own titles and then screen shot his local browser copy of the edited page

not rocket science

When you import test kits years before the (chough) virus exists.
https://nationalfile.com/world-bank-records-covid-19-test-kits-exported-in-2018/


When you look for people all over the country before you know you need them

I think it was WHO that released the PCR standards, and they sure have a cozy relationship with China but regardless, the inflated case numbers are a cause for concern, kinda. It's not very useful to add a Covid case into a database without taking into context the deaths. Just using the blanket statement that so and so country has an some number of cases doesn't mean much.

The problem with the PCR theory (which is that Covid cases are over counted) is that the death rate is pretty consistent no matter what country's standard you use *given* that the country has decent testing standards.

Of course India's death rate wouldn't be accurate, for example. And by death rate, I mean confirmed case fatality rate.

 Coronavirus Outbreaks is getting worsen specially in my country for me the reason why the virus are easily spread in one to another person are only people also, they can not understand in precautionary measurements on how to obeyed that safety protocols. The will always lean to our Government that the Government did not do anything to leassen the list of affected of covid-19. For me not just the Government will do the thing to leassen the positive but also the citezin they must know how to obeyed the rules and have a respect to their selves .and learn how to adjust and stayed at home in pandemic time.

^^^ Right! Covid would easily pass and be gone in less than two years if the medical didn't step in.

What the medical was trying to do all along, with masks and lockdowns, was to keep the people under the fear of Covid, just long enough that they could develop the vaccine-like serums. Then, as Covid really dissipated, they could provide the jabs just as Covid was going away, to make it look like they, the medical, had done it.

This time, however, they were ready. Their so-called vaccines had all kinds of other things in them to attempt to make the bodies of people to be able to make all kinds of variants, and shed them, so many more people would get sick for real. If you can't get control of a virus, produce some, so that you have constant medical emergency, so you can take over the world with an ongoing medical emergency.

It did.  By early 2020, due to a variety of policies that fostered it, about 20-25% of many populations already had it.  That from antibody testing.  It passed through like any other coronavirus.

The ailment is so mild that most people never knew they had it.  That was not bug; it was feature!  For over a year now they have been able to generate as many 'cases' as they need for psychological reasons just by 'testing' because running rt-PCR cycles threashold up into the 40's will make everyone who had the virus a year ago come up 'positive for covid'.  Also with those kinds of cycle counts, a lot of people can come up hot who just breathed in a bit of nucleotide from the environment.  And probably a lot of people who were just flat out negative as well.

This whole thing was planned for a long time taking advantage of other mock-pandemics generated with bad testing, bad models, and bad assumptions.  They almost certainly had the 'spike protein' in their sights from long before for other reasons, and that is probably why inserts for it were engineered in to 'SARS-cov-2'...in Wuhan with U.S. money.  Upwards of $40M of it, most from the DOD.

The 'adversarial' relationship between the U.S. and China is as phony as the same between the Democrats and the Republicans.  No different than the 'rivalry' between 'Hulk Hogan' and 'Andre the Giant' in WWE.  Wake up people...or don't.  It's probably to late for most of you mouth-breathers already to be honest about it.

Pretty good analysis of leaked NHS marketing material by a woman who seems to be something of a domain specialist.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZG1bChuWY5JP/

Origin of SARS-COV-2: https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228

Undisclosed US report states that 3 researchers from the Wuhan virology lab got sick with COVID-19 symptoms. Took many months for this to leak out, but anyways, is the story just addsMight there be any doubt left that this came from a bat in a wet market?

Perhaps that might be true...maybe it spread from the lab, to a researcher, then spread amongst the wet market.

What I don't get is this -- if it is true that this 3 researchers did get Covid (not just some flu with Covid symptoms), wouldn't the disease begin to spread like wild fire? The timeline seems a bit off. The researchers got infected in November 2019, before the first confirmed cases. Either this means they didn't have Covid, or they did have Covid and it began to spread a whole lot quicker than anyone thought.

If you get vaccinated, why does it matter if some other idiot doesn't want to get vaccinated and doesn't wear a mask? The vaccine is over 95 percent effective, and the chance you die of COVID after the vaccine is less than 0.01 percent. If you get COVID after the vaccination, your body has a much better chance at fighting the disease.

So yes, people in America are probably dumber than those in Israel, but if YOU get vaccinated, that has no bearing on another person and the choices they make with their health. They mask off? Who cares? You got vaccinated, you are protected.

This is why it doesn't make any sense to tell those vaxed to keep masks on, it's not like they ever worked anyways.

Also, the vaccine is something like 90 percent effect after the first dose, so even if 45 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, you still have protection from the first dose. Plus, you aren't factoring in herd immunity with those vaxed + those have natural immunity after catching COVID and fighting it off naturally.

So yeah, CDC way late on this.

If vaccinated, don't breathe in any of the air you just exhaled. You might get it from yourself. Outside, face away from the wind when breathing. That way only the jokers downstream from you will get it.

but thats because people in isreal are smarter that america..

like i said if they had a de-mask relaxation back in february when the over 65yo+ crowed were vaccinated..
in america the UNDER 65yo unvaxxed population would stupidly think the +65 relaxation applies to them.

meaning relaxing the mask rule for those vaccinated would have causes more harm .. due to idiots under 65

.. it was never about the risk to the vaccinated.. it was about the idiots that were unvaccinated would not self mask if they heard older people were free of masks.

as proven by many previous trends of things where idiot americans feel like they are being victimised by a certain thing

so to make it clear as i think even you are not understanding WHY THE CDC did what they did
it had nothing to do with saying over 65yo were still at risk. it was about ensuring the under 65yo didnt be idiots and take off their masks while unvaccinated for the multitude of stupid reasons they would try to find to reject health advice

yes. even you cant see that the CDC is doing it for the idiots benefit.
yes. even you cant see that the CDC is doing it not becasue there is a remaining high risk to the vaxxed crowd

so without having to make another post about this.
ill emphasise it one last time

teling people to remain masked even when some are vaccinatedjan-april.. is due to the idiots who are not vaxxed who would also take off the masks even if cdc made it specific to only a certain group of the population

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its like making a dont mingle in groups of over 6 people..
and suddenly idiots start asking 'does that include church congregations of 6+'
common sense.. yes ANY group of 6+ people
and suddenly idiots start asking 'but what if its not just congregations. but a funeral'
idiots cant just take the advice and will always try to find holes they can abuse.

like thinking protests is their loophole to be allowed to mingle even when being told they shouldnt


its actually 5%+ month after second dose
maybe 20%+ month after first dose

by the way.. only 45% of people have have the complete 2 doses
so its still not even at a good majory of population protected

No one was saying the masks should come off early, the masks have been going on for over a year now. Americans are quite stupid, sometimes. But so are a lot of people.

Once you get jabbed, you take off the mask because the chance of you getting the virus is almost zero. If you are vaccinated and the person next to you is not, you do not need to wear a mask because chances are you will not get infected -- we have the data from Israel, everyone does. The reinfection rate after a vaccine is some absurdly low percentage. The CDC guidelines also stated, before, that you need to wear a mask outside regardless if you're vaccinated when you're in larger groups. The chance of getting COVID outside is quite literally less than 1 percent when you are within the vicinity of a person that is COVID positive, and if you are vaccinated, the chance is even lower.

^^^ But now we are finding out what the vaccines are REALLY for - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dxb2rRSq08 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSf89dHBVkI

Sorry, franky1! No explanation attached. So it will be difficult for you to understand.

the logical point is. without all adults being vaccinated and a few weeks are passed its not really good to start saying only some should take off their masks too early. because.. generally americans are not that bright and so if there was a de-masking order when only the 65yo+ were vaccinated.. the under 65yo who have not been vaccinated would de-mask and pretend they had the vaccine. and thus end up causing the under 65 to spread the virus..

so yea. now the population of all adults is generally safe. guess what. they can take their masks off

if americans had a higher IQ and a respect for personal and social health of those around them. maybe the masks could have come off earlier for those vaccinated..

but the last year has shown there are too many idiots that would abuse the relaxations. such as pretend they are older and already vaxxed.
so yea dont blame the CDC. blame idiots that dont give a crap about their own health and other health as to the reason the social distancing orders were put in place.

yes i said it. if people actually had common sense to look after themselves and others around them out of free choice and intelligence.. there would not need to have been laws created to enforce something people should do out of common sense..

EG its the same as wearing pants in public. if idiots kept their pants on. thre would be no need for public nudity laws..

i can already tell badecker has a bad hygiene issue even before covid. and has not even bothered to grasp the basic minimum of common sense of washing hands regularly during the pandemic.

the only time he has mentioned buying cleaning solutions in the last year. is to add it to his drinking water and drink it

Seems to me that Jet Cash has been doing quite well with his nutrition. We should get him to tell us what he does. On top of that, if we add some vitamin D, and vitamin C + zinc to our good diets, we should be able to easily beat ALL the varieties of Covid the super-spreaders are shedding... even if they have magnets attached to the spots on their arms where they got the injection at ( ).

In a few years we'll be able to go outside free of you got-vaxxed zombies/mummies and pick out the vacant properties we want to develop.  The wild-card will be the shedding and whether you are going to be making us sick with your diseased GMO bodies cranking out God knows what.  I'm more than happy to stay isolated for a few years if that's what it takes not to pick up your filthy shed.  Just hope that practicable isolation will be effective, or that some other method will be found.