Topic: CORRECT AND NOT ATTACK (Read 478 times)

We are taught to be friendly to everyone, but sometimes the language of writing is very difficult to understand, even if you feel attacked, sometimes that is not the intention of the writer who is attacking. Maybe if you see and meet in person it will be a little different. In fact I think everyone who started felt that way including me when I first joined this forum. We all just have to understand everyone has different styles and good intentions. We just have to get used to it, because I'm sure the people who give advice are the ones who have good intentions.

To correct and tell newbies what to do when they’re doing the wrong thing should be perceived as teaching them about the do’s and don’ts of the forum even if they get merits through that. You can’t conclude that by correcting them means that they’re bullying them and should not be done in that way. This is a public forum and each person have their own way to correct, judge or direct someone. The day you stop perceiving every correction, critics as bullying, you’ll have a smooth ride in the forum’s journey.

It is just too funny seeing post like this. We don't have to tell people about how to behave. Everyone of us comes from a different background and different faculty. There are people that correct through the use of harsh words or foul words which is seen as normal to them. We can't change them or change the want that they have to behave in the way that we want. Everyone of us has our own opinion and we don't have to force opinion on people especially if it's our own opinion. We need to take things the way it is.

This is true, we can rate ideas base on rank, there are some higher rank members whom might not have the kind of knowledge and skill some new members who just come into this forum have, as there rank is just what’s rated as newbie and not what they have in there head.

Regardless of the rank, if I see anything educating which I can learn from anyone I always try as much as I can not to look on the rank but focus on what I can get from them.

@OP you're a Jr. Member ranks now, you can "use" newbie to earn merits.

Many high ranked users are willing to teach anyone in this forum, there are also low ranked users can teach high ranked users, knowledge can't be measured by ranks.

There are many bad people, let's say a scammer. Scammer has a bad intention because they want to steal someone else valuable thing, there's no religion or parents is supporting become a scammer. There's no reason to judge and help a scammer because scammer is always a scammer.

The purpose of merits system is to encourage quality and helpful post in the forum. So if someone earns merit by correcting a newbie, it means the merit is serving the purpose it was introduced for and there is absolutely nothing wrong in that. This mentality is the reason some newbies are not comfortable being here. Take a look at your profile for example and see the date you registered and the amount of merits you have earned. You can not grow when you feel attacked when you are being corrected. For anyone who's interested to learn will ignore all the criticism and learn from them instead of being discouraged or feel offended.

It doesn't matter whether you are invited by a friend or you discovered this forum yourself, it's your sole responsibility to get yourself acquainted with the rules. Even in school, some times students are being discipline by teachers as a form of correction of wrong doings. You can not expect newbies to be treated like an when from all indications they're not ready to comply with the forum ethics.

It depends on words and tone used to express education effort. Some people can use harsh words that make newbies feel uncomfortable and it's not good, not friendly. However newbies must admit what they did wrong, see positive things from contributions of other members and grow up thicker skin. Some posters can have great skills and use soft words that can be more favorite by newbies.

If their intention is good, newbies must see it and move on, improve themselves.

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This is true. Even though the intention is to correct someone because of what they did is wrong or a mistake but still they feel that they are attacked when the truth is that the person who give the correction is not attacking at all but to help. What I can say about them is that if they don't like being attacked which is not the intention of the person who is doing it then they shouldn't be in this forum and should find another forum. Reporting newbies is not wrong if the newbie have done something wrong like plagiarism and being a scammer.

Sometimes being corrected triggers them as if they had been attack or criticized base on statement or words posted. People need to realize that they would never receive those unwanted words if they know something base on the topic discuss so instead of feeling bad on situation much better for them to learn something from people criticizing them so that they can correct what those negative attitude they set or wrong expectation they look forward towards crypto and became more better people or a investor. For sure if they take this and correct theirselves then provably there's more bright future for them on crypto scene. Its so good that we deal multiple attitudes of people in this forum so that we can learn how to deal and react base on situation also to learn how to approach on certain situation that will happen in future.

How can you learn in a public forum from experienced people who have different temperaments and expect not to be criticized? It's near impossible, so the best thing is to take everything said to you on advisory level, take the ones that you think will benefit you and simply ignore the negative ones, instead of complaining, afterall you're not paying anyone in the forum to tutor you. I joined this forum without any knowledge of crypto, I had my own fair share of criticism, but i didn't let it bother me, i tried to learn from what I was criticized or attached on, today I've increased my crypto knowledge substantially, and I'm grateful to members in this forum, even those that criticized me helped made me become better.

Without any clear understanding of what this space is all about yet as I’m relatively new, I think this is the reason why new persons on the platform should be more reluctant on typing upon first appearance of the forum. Even that still, some platforms do require you to make comments within a week of joining and as your time continues to generate traffic for them and in turn make the platform interesting but, this shouldn’t be the reason that you rush into trouble.
In most cases, one who does almost nothing commits no offense.

What should be done rather is asking questions when necessary especially, questions on what’s the most basic rule here and how not to fault them.
That’s in an event that, you don’t take your time, perhaps the first day of your arrival on the forum to research this out yourself. It’s what a smart person would do but,

This is the internet, we’ve got people from different background and culture who chooses to behave just how it’s okay with them and even as you might want to change that, they are out there to change you and the way you perceive these things. When your learning, be ready for a lot of insult and name callings as well, it’s part of the process. Even more so, you just hope to get the answers you need from the other few that cares to offer some solution and you move on. Everyone can’t have same energy and character and that includes you!

You think so of you know so? Not all newbies that has newbie name are actually newbie, not everyone in this forum care about rank or merit, they prefer to have trust than anything related to their account. There are some newbies in reputation that are attack people because they are afraid to lose their main account and such can't be justify with your definition, some newbie are created for trolling and not necessarily for ranking but your definition is cool.


You see this forum, be thick and strong then you will know that these you highlighted doesn't need to be here, do your thing and rank up, learn about anything shared here, about Bitcoin and also make sure that you abide by the rules common rules and regulations. I'm general, please don't plagiarize, don't cheat and don't manipulate, that's the easiest way what you wrote above will not work.

If you were not informed of the dos and don't then as you cane in the first thing to do is to ask questions to know them before doing any other things but as you came you were also interested to acquire merits and rank up and was not interested to ask any question to learn so the attacks also came from that angles so you don't have to blame anyone here but yourself. As you can if you asked questions then people would be interested to help you out from the question you asked.

And also for people to guide you here is also depends on you, the way you present yourself here mend a lot. People are not here to attack but to educate but when you didn't follow the rules then attack must come you have to wear the thick skin to over come the attacks.

Its not an attack, its called discovery, when someone was discovered being a scammer, plagiarist or having any suspicious act that can cause trouble on others, isn't it better to report such person, than when someone like you who is a newbie fall into their trap.


Everyone was once a newbie before turning to be whom they were today, and there's no any shortcut to that than through learning.


have you then discovered anything aside this, if yes please give a reference to that, we are on bitcointalk where everyone is free to talk his own on how he feels.

First of all a person who goes to school goes to acquire knowledge and how do you acquire this knowledge you listen attentively even if you know you still don't know all,it is true everyone has come here for something but first of all you came to learn as well.
Many newbies rush into posting knowing that the forum does not welcome all kind of posts, in a school when it is exam time you also examine your write up to make sure it gives you mark right? Many newbies don't follow the rules here they only come with the mentality that they want to gain merit and make money and don't reason what they post at all.
There is a thread that says read before you post but many don't read and another says make reading a habit people who have the knowledge of this forum are here before you so while you use a day to walk round the board with seriousness there is no way you won't leave the forum without a knowledge about the forum.

I didn't know anything about Bitcoin until I decided to go into areas I think will benefit my knowledge before I start posting, nobody is oppressing the newbies here but let them take precautions that's all.

I want to applaud you for your courage to make this post, high ranked members are most times very strict and tough but I wouldn't call it attack as that's the only way to keep most stubborn newbies in check. High ranked members will come for you only if you keep making the same mistake over and over again, expect criticism but not attacks am sure they went through the same thing as they were once newbies like you and I.

Sometimes, advice and guidance may appear to look like attacking or bullying, yes it's true that most of the high ranked members here may have a very funny way of correcting or guiding people because that was the same way they were taught. It's tolerable if one newbie comes and makes a spam or merit fishing post, you can assume that they're doing it out of ignorance and then you go ahead to correct them, but when there's 10 more, trust me you'll be pissed because it only means that majority of the people who join the forum are coming with very wrong perspective and viewpoint about the forum and this misconception should be corrected by every means necessary to avoid spamming the community. So don't blame people who get fed up and decide to tell them the truth. You know the truth sometimes can be bitter, no one is a baby here, so no one should be treated as such.

At the end of the story we know they are fake beginners, aka fake beginners, we really appreciate and respect those who are actually beginners who come here, with the aim of wanting to know and learn a lot about forums and Bitcoin, unfortunately they pretended they didn't know anything, in the end it was discovered they weren't true beginners, they had an Alt involved in a series of violations.

We do not judge, in fact they themselves never respect all the rules that have been made, in many cases they have high ranking accounts and attack behind their beginner accounts, you misunderstand about judging, real beginners are free to do anything, as long as they understand all the existing rules, we don't judge as long as you don't become a fake beginner.

You nailed it mentioning Mr Ddmr² here. There is a shared impression among several members here that politics is taking over the forum, and strategic alliances and personal wars weigh more than creating quality content in order to get merits. Happily, a few honorable exceptions still exist here. They know who they are, and it is up to each newbie to discover who they are, amidst all the noise. You already mentioned one, but let's not make any more spoilers (or why not?).

While this might sound unreal, it is very true. I have faced such a challenge while I was a lower ranked member. Some of the established members does nothing else than to bash the newbies. When they ask innocent questions, they take advantage of the question to earn merits to themselves and demarket the questionair who is the Op. These things happen, but if you are not sensitive enough, you will not understand. A post that ought to get merits, but due to the first responder was hash and negative towards the Op, no one will drop a single merit for Op. Unless in a rare case that people like DdMrDdMr will.


  Some established members do the above while some newbies are so adamant. And in some cases they turn to be teaching the established members how the forum works. Things like this are offensive, especially for people who have been long here and know how unreal some newbies are