Corrupt leaders are made foolish people.

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Quote from: kentrolla on March 17, 2024, 05:05:59 AM

We have often seen how leaders who got into power because of backing from their tribe, sect or regional and ethnicities are the most corrupt ones because they knows that their people will vote for them regardless they do any good work or not. Look at African nations and even some Arab nations the reason why they are going through corruption and suffering is because people don't vote based on merit rather on personal relationship like sect, ethnicity or religion and then there comes countries like India and Pakistan where they win based on vote from majority community by instilling fear that minorities gonna rule them if not votes to power and next five years everyone suffers.

I would hold people accountable for being in an creating a corrupt leaders rather than the leaders themself.

Background One: Many people vote in constituencies for some money. Again when they see that there is no development in the area they say that there is no development in my area, and the leaders loot all the money. At such a time I am talking about all the leaders who came to power in exchange for money will they do the welfare of the people with their own money? Answer: Never.

Background Two: When a government comes to power it wants to stay in power again and again. So when the election comes they don't want to give a chance to the opposite party to participate in the election. But their opportunity to participate is disclosed. Then anyone from among the people of his party is chosen and stood for election. Then what will the general public do and who will vote?

So I think people will be responsible according to the context. But it can be said that the common people cannot escape the responsibility for producing corrupt leaders either through ignorance or purposefully.

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Your right bro, it has become quite a thign that trust is lacking in the nation, no one wants to look past the insecurites of sec or ethnic and vote bases on trust, besides they would say its better a devil we know than an angel we don't know, everyone is accountable for the suffering that they are passing through and people won't still listen, right now in the US there are still those that that vouching for biden even after his bad performance and its true that trump is far better than him but yet no one would listen they woudl still prefer to make the same mistake all over again over a fake promise .

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Quote from: Dunamisx on May 18, 2024, 02:01:54 PM

Corruption does not only applies to the leaders aloe, anyone in a leadership position or not and is engaging in any form of corrupt practices is a fool, its only a self centered person who will be involved in any form of corruption, but when we are so mindful about the welfare of others, we will realized that there is no need for being too greedy and to engage in corrupt practice, only if we can discipline ourself on that.

It's difficult at this time, there's a lot of corruption they're doing, it's even rampant from the top to the bottom it's hard to overcome all of that, because their thoughts are only about pursuing wealth, they don't reflect wise leaders and no broadly about advancing the welfare of the people starting it,s hard to do it all with not to do anything negative.

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Quote from: Negotiation on March 17, 2024, 06:20:05 AM

In fact here we have people who create opportunities for corruption, leaders cannot do corruption at will but a section of common people want to corrupt with their help to make themselves more independent. Because of which the leaders get the opportunity to commit corruption. So I think that common people create the opportunity to do corruption. That's why our leaders took the opportunity. However, there are currently many countries where voting is not required or there is no need to elect a leader.

Of course, you are right, some people don't want to useful to themselves, they want to be a tool to our leaders and when they are caught, they will say it's the hand work of the devil, when they volunteering themselves to be used to cause havoc for the people and also make it uncomfortable for people to live in, and the worst part is that they are not also living comfortable, because they will vow to keep the secret of our leaders, if not they will die, especially if they fail to do their duty or wants to back down, so let's not promote corruption by doing what we know it's wrong.

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Quote from: kentrolla on March 17, 2024, 05:05:59 AM

We have often seen how leaders who got into power because of backing from their tribe, sect or regional and ethnicities are the most corrupt ones because they knows that their people will vote for them regardless they do any good work or not. Look at African nations and even some Arab nations the reason why they are going through corruption and suffering is because people don't vote based on merit rather on personal relationship like sect, ethnicity or religion and then there comes countries like India and Pakistan where they win based on vote from majority community by instilling fear that minorities gonna rule them if not votes to power and next five years everyone suffers.

I would hold people accountable for being in an creating a corrupt leaders rather than the leaders themself.

Mate you need to understand African politics, its really based on merit but what am I going to get from this person, those people that really have the power to put those guys in positions don't acre about the masses that wiudl suffer from it, its just business to them and yeah I can't blame them cause if anyone was as rich as they are you would be more bothered about staying onto than think about a poor person that you don't even know, so yeah that's how life is, I just pity those that take bribe to do things cause at the end if they are not well established and the elected leader is corrupt everyone suffers including them.

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Quote from: kentrolla on March 17, 2024, 05:05:59 AM

We have often seen how leaders who got into power because of backing from their tribe, sect or regional and ethnicities are the most corrupt ones because they knows that their people will vote for them regardless they do any good work or not. Look at African nations and even some Arab nations the reason why they are going through corruption and suffering is because people don't vote based on merit rather on personal relationship like sect, ethnicity or religion and then there comes countries like India and Pakistan where they win based on vote from majority community by instilling fear that minorities gonna rule them if not votes to power and next five years everyone suffers.

I would hold people accountable for being in an creating a corrupt leaders rather than the leaders themself.

Don’t you think that not all can still be hold accountable for the bad leaders that have been put into power to represent them. When we have a minority group with the intention to vote out the bad leader and another majority group that are already bribed by those corrupt leaders, with a free and fair elections, the majority groups will be the winners of that election.

With anticipation for a change in the leaders that rule corrupt nations like that, without the majority not corrupt and have that corrupt mindset already instilled in them by the system, the election will never be in favour of the minority that have the will mindset for a change of leadership. Every nation and country have what most affects them, and it is on them to find out what is the problem and how to find solutions to them for the betterment of their country.

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Corruption does not only applies to the leaders aloe, anyone in a leadership position or not and is engaging in any form of corrupt practices is a fool, its only a self centered person who will be involved in any form of corruption, but when we are so mindful about the welfare of others, we will realized that there is no need for being too greedy and to engage in corrupt practice, only if we can discipline ourself on that.

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They wouldn't be there if it weren't for us the people anyway, if everyone is just a tad bit more smarter than the average, we would all be electing the right people and we will go on a violent outburst whenever there's a possibility that there's a rigging in the election. But that's not the case, the masses are pretty stupid when they get into crowds and they end up believing in the one that speaks loudest the most even if what they're saying doesn't make sense, there's a reason why Hitler came into power, his policies might be evil but he was a really good orator and knows how to manipulate the masses into believing his cause as the solution to the problem that Germany was facing at that time. France is a really great example of how the masses should work when it comes to getting what they want, they really care about how they do protests and they're famous for the French Revolution after all.

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You said the truth mate. That's why it very important to investigation about that leader whom you are going to vote. And it is far better to vote a honest person even he doesn't belong to your community. And I think that's far better than voting him who are corrupted enough and not going to doing anything for people even after get elected. But there are some problems too. Honest person can't stand before them cause corrupted leader always threatening good leader, not to election against him or result will be bad or he will be endanger. That's the normal people don't have any option rather than voting that corrupted leader

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Most of the world's leaders are corrupt. In monarchical countries, the rule of power continues from generation to generation. Among them, some of the rulers protect the rights of the people because they are ideals of morality. And those who remain corrupt oppress people as they wish and collude with powerful world leaders to maintain power. Also in democratic countries corrupt governments are killing people's rights. Leaders promised good deeds before the elections but brutally oppressed the people after the elections. Although some countries of the world follow the democratic process, in many countries of the world the government comes to power dishonestly and tries to maintain it. Many times, the military forces run the government in democratic states by force. To elect a leader, an ideal leader should be selected, leaving aside the party and tribe. People should remember that a true leader does not seek ideals but creates ideals. And if a leader is honest, his followers cannot be dishonest.

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These leaders, especially the ones in Africa know these things, so they weaponize it. They know with exposure, literacy, and personal growth people would move past mindsets like that, so they make sure these people don't have these things. Instead, they just keep promising them these things and never give them anything.

The majority of the voters in these African countries are either illiterate, have very poor education, or have no education at all so they're easier to manipulate. This makes it easy to weaponize what they can use against their people. This is one reason why the region is in a pitiful state. The whole system is so rigged to the extent that the ones who understand and know what should be done are either too blinded by greed and selfishness that they'll only seek to enrich themselves through corruption or too blinded by tribe. They have the fallacy believe that if a politician is from their tribe or region, it will benefit them.

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Quote from: kentrolla on March 17, 2024, 05:05:59 AM

We have often seen how leaders who got into power because of backing from their tribe, sect or regional and ethnicities are the most corrupt ones because they knows that their people will vote for them regardless they do any good work or not. Look at African nations and even some Arab nations the reason why they are going through corruption and suffering is because people don't vote based on merit rather on personal relationship like sect, ethnicity or religion and then there comes countries like India and Pakistan where they win based on vote from majority community by instilling fear that minorities gonna rule them if not votes to power and next five years everyone suffers.

I would hold people accountable for being in an creating a corrupt leaders rather than the leaders themself.

it is very difficult before you see a good politician who is not corrupt because it is obvious that interest of politicians in a society most especially un civilized countries is to enrich their family not to do something that will profit the Citizens so we cannot blend them because they don't have the people that are leading in mind majority leaders in a country that is not civilized is performing such action everyday but their is no penalty for them because their government is corrupt

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Quote from: Dewiana on April 20, 2024, 02:20:35 PM

don't bribe or engage in money politics when inviting people to elect him, another thing is that there is public space to control it.

The thing is that these running candidates often target those in poverty and they offer them money and support so of course what stupid person will say no to help right? But the short term benefit will result to a longer destruction of the country and the system. Some have given up on the country and do not want to even partake anymore in the election

That is a very common and sadly a very effective for authoritarian governments to control the population, specially those who are not educated enough to see beyond their basic and immediate needs. Actually, of you take a look on the arguments people who are against the rule of socialism and communism says, they will often give you examples about how current authoritarian governments use the needs of people to access to food, education, shelter and even health to control their vote.
Here in Venezuela, the president and the rest of the people who is involved in high politics try to make an emphasis on how good they are because they have programs (which are very ineffective) to offer people food, money and shelter. Though, they do not mention the existence of organized groups who take note on whether someone has voted against them during a presidential or general election, so they can withdraw all those benefits from those who received them and dared to vote against.

That is simply not a democracy, it is the lowest class of politics one could ever found. In the contemporary history of humanity and it is going on right now as we speak.

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Quote from: kentrolla on March 17, 2024, 05:05:59 AM

We have often seen how leaders who got into power because of backing from their tribe, sect or regional and ethnicities are the most corrupt ones because they knows that their people will vote for them regardless they do any good work or not. Look at African nations and even some Arab nations the reason why they are going through corruption and suffering is because people don't vote based on merit rather on personal relationship like sect, ethnicity or religion and then there comes countries like India and Pakistan where they win based on vote from majority community by instilling fear that minorities gonna rule them if not votes to power and next five years everyone suffers.

I would hold people accountable for being in an creating a corrupt leaders rather than the leaders themself.

Tribalism and racism is the same and we all need to ensure that it does not have so much effects on us.
We need to be prepared and worked hand in hand with people around us even though they are not from our particular ethnic group or froma different colour. The world needs to be a better place not a place of violence and hatred which could bring about war.
If everyone works hand in hand to help their neighbors and community to be better, the problems of the world would be lesser.

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Quote from: Dewiana on April 20, 2024, 02:20:35 PM

don't bribe or engage in money politics when inviting people to elect him, another thing is that there is public space to control it.

The thing is that these running candidates often target those in poverty and they offer them money and support so of course what stupid person will say no to help right? But the short term benefit will result to a longer destruction of the country and the system. Some have given up on the country and do not want to even partake anymore in the election

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Quote from: Dewiana on April 20, 2024, 02:20:35 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 17, 2024, 05:24:10 AM

I agree, mate. When all the political candidates running for positions in the government are corrupt and useless, the country is doomed. We have no choice but only to choose the “least evil” among the candidates. But when there is a candidate that is credible and capable of leading the country and we still don’t choose that candidate, the problem is in the people.

Of course we shouldn’t blame it all on the people. There are still many things to hold a corrupt candidate accountable for. Like maybe that candidate is spreading a lot of lies and misinformation that could have reached the masses and could have influenced their political decisions greatly.

A good leader can only lead when he or she is chosen by the people.

The election of a corrupt leader is the effect of the electoral system during the election, when the system is not clean then be prepared when he becomes a leader he will do things that are detrimental to the country. because this happens from below, so to avoid this, choose a leader from among people who have good moral ethics, don't bribe or engage in money politics when inviting people to elect him, another thing is that there is public space to control it. Another thing is not giving capital to owners when they become leaders because that opens up space for chaos within the government

Currently, where I am living we are casting our votes but still we are having not right leaders because our vote is not going on right path, and they are stealing things which are completely destroying country and peoples are suffering due to these corrupt leaders and their policies but nothing positive happening which is surely going to have the worst things in future as well.
Current concept of democracy or choosing our leaders are also having nothing with system as now they are having all control, and they can do things which are right for them and their policies which are never been ideal for the common peoples if we need better leaders and better future we need to have good education and rule of law which is most important.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 17, 2024, 05:24:10 AM

I agree, mate. When all the political candidates running for positions in the government are corrupt and useless, the country is doomed. We have no choice but only to choose the “least evil” among the candidates. But when there is a candidate that is credible and capable of leading the country and we still don’t choose that candidate, the problem is in the people.

Of course we shouldn’t blame it all on the people. There are still many things to hold a corrupt candidate accountable for. Like maybe that candidate is spreading a lot of lies and misinformation that could have reached the masses and could have influenced their political decisions greatly.

A good leader can only lead when he or she is chosen by the people.

The election of a corrupt leader is the effect of the electoral system during the election, when the system is not clean then be prepared when he becomes a leader he will do things that are detrimental to the country. because this happens from below, so to avoid this, choose a leader from among people who have good moral ethics, don't bribe or engage in money politics when inviting people to elect him, another thing is that there is public space to control it. Another thing is not giving capital to owners when they become leaders because that opens up space for chaos within the government

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Quote from: kentrolla on March 17, 2024, 05:05:59 AM

We have often seen how leaders who got into power because of backing from their tribe, sect or regional and ethnicities are the most corrupt ones because they knows that their people will vote for them regardless they do any good work or not. Look at African nations and even some Arab nations the reason why they are going through corruption and suffering is because people don't vote based on merit rather on personal relationship like sect, ethnicity or religion and then there comes countries like India and Pakistan where they win based on vote from majority community by instilling fear that minorities gonna rule them if not votes to power and next five years everyone suffers.

I would hold people accountable for being in an creating a corrupt leaders rather than the leaders themself.

One of the most wicked part is the religious affiliations,.. What does this religions really teach that they will support their members only for them to assume office as devil incarnates...
Somehow, this leaders manipulates the environment and the people carry out the results from what you just pointed
So the people/majority can say no to bad governance by living above the immediate time of manipulation and vote on merit for the future to get at least good government.

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The right thing to do is vote for who is capable of handling that position very well someone who can bring in positive changes an intellectual.
Voting for someone because he or she is practicing same region with you or because his from your city or community or because he or she is same color with you should be set aside when choosing a leader because when we put all that into consideration when choosing a leader we will be blind to see if truly his intelligent enough to handle that position and bring positive changes.
All we need to consider in choosing a leader is if he or she can handle such position very well and bring positive changes.

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Leaders must take the right steps to activate the people. People can get honesty from them if they elect the right leaders. Some are widely criticized within the state. Common citizens of any country do not like a corrupt government. People want peace and service. But the corrupt are busy picking their own sugarcane, forgetting about peace and service.

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