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newbie
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June 19, 2015, 09:44:10 PM
Ello i am new and people suggest me buying account to earn with signature campaign. May i know how much can i buy with 0.1 mBTC.
member
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I'm Just Try
June 19, 2015, 09:26:33 PM
so does it basically come down to who can provide a signed message from an address posted further back in time? in the case of the recently posted address for instance.

it is a proof of ownership, if a seller can prove that he own the account, then the buyer is safe for the possible retrieval attempt

Consider this hypothetical: An account is dormant for a few months. It is hacked, the hacker posts an address, and then sells it a couple months later. The account is then recovered by the original owner, who can sign a message from a post made a year ago.

but what if the hacker, deleting posts containing addresses many years ago, and then he made a new post adress and as if it was indeed her account?
hero member
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June 19, 2015, 09:17:10 PM
so does it basically come down to who can provide a signed message from an address posted further back in time? in the case of the recently posted address for instance.

it is a proof of ownership, if a seller can prove that he own the account, then the buyer is safe for the possible retrieval attempt

Consider this hypothetical: An account is dormant for a few months. It is hacked, the hacker posts an address, and then sells it a couple months later. The account is then recovered by the original owner, who can sign a message from a post made a year ago.
full member
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June 19, 2015, 08:35:20 PM
so does it basically come down to who can provide a signed message from an address posted further back in time? in the case of the recently posted address for instance.

it is a proof of ownership, if a seller can prove that he own the account, then the buyer is safe for the possible retrieval attempt
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June 19, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
so does it basically come down to who can provide a signed message from an address posted further back in time? in the case of the recently posted address for instance.
hero member
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June 19, 2015, 06:56:55 PM
If it were me, I would only accept a signed message from an address that was posted at least 2+ months prior. Even then, it could be hacked, but at least at that length of time, the account would have been dormant so is unlikely to be recovered anyway.
copper member
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June 19, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
While it is always recommended to use escrow for trades, most escrow agents are not going to have sufficient expertise to be able to protect you from hacked accounts. I know of at least one instance recently when an escrow accepted a signed message from an address that was posted that day which is worthless. Not surprisingly, the account turned out to be hacked.  

Which escrow was that?
bitpop. At least according to what I was told. Was sold by puzzel.me

Edit: this is what was given to me for the communications for the trade. I haven't verified the authenticity of the PM's

Yes obviously. I even talked to kirjangka and he agreed.

ok, i think i will buy it. when is the next round of campaign staring?

Started today.

ok, just give me some time, i will get the bitcoins to have it send to me from my friend who has headed out and once he returns  i will buy it. Thank you.

Selling to someone else then. I need bitcoins soon.

ok if you can wait 2 to 3  hours, i will take it or else you can sell it to someone else. Thank you.





Selling to someone else then. I need bitcoins soon.

ok if you can wait 2 to 3  hours, i will take it or else you can sell it to someone else. Thank you.

I will wait for 2 hours.

i will drop you a message as soon as i have the funds with me. Thank you.


Now?

ok please get a free escrow, how much will i able to get in the first week, within 18th in signature campaign ? thank you.

Now?

please let me know that question, i will buy now. thank you.

Now?

please let me know that question, i will buy now. thank you.

i have the funds with me now. waiting for your updates. thank you.

Find an escrow or go first.

ok. how much will i be able to get in the upcoming payment of signature campaign on 18th? thank you.

Find an escrow or go first.

ok. how much will i be able to get in the upcoming payment of signature campaign on 18th? thank you.

?

Find an escrow or go first.

ok. how much will i be able to get in the upcoming payment of signature campaign on 18th? thank you.

0.1 fixed bonus and rest depends on posts you made. Every post gives 0.0025
Last week I made 0.5 by posting

ok, have you already recieved any earnings for this week 11 to 18? thank you. i also have an escrow.

Find an escrow or go first.

ok. how much will i be able to get in the upcoming payment of signature campaign on 18th? thank you.

0.1 fixed bonus and rest depends on posts you made. Every post gives 0.0025
Last week I made 0.5 by posting

ok, have you already recieved any earnings for this week 11 to 18? thank you. i also have an escrow.
No.. Next payment will go to you.

ok great, thank you.
i will contact the escrow.

Find an escrow or go first.

ok. how much will i be able to get in the upcoming payment of signature campaign on 18th? thank you.

0.1 fixed bonus and rest depends on posts you made. Every post gives 0.0025
Last week I made 0.5 by posting

ok, have you already recieved any earnings for this week 11 to 18? thank you. i also have an escrow.
No.. Next payment will go to you.

here it shows that you have received 0.145 btc for current week as payment https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NyudlxXMgy_McqEKlnlF5PWb4r08qyu2SeoRgnXmHVs/edit#gid=1538207540




Hi i am buying the forum member account  aahzmundus  for 0.6 BTC, kindly escrow for us, the whole trade will finish in 2 minutes, thank you.



3EJBjb1VakTi1vzzy1URMh8bvcsh77GuzM

Tell me once funds are sent. I will then give account to bitpop and he will send funds to address on my profile and then will give account to you.

i will require a signed message as well. thank you.

Will send a signed message from17eyvvAHQkPXz7UnAQDexVWrFMvm6Q765X which has also been posted earlier and its the same address where I accept payment.

Ok

ok thank you.

Aahzmundus
qwertyuiop

you can release the escrow, i will give a + feedback, would be great if you do the same. thank you.

Hi i am buying the forum member account  aahzmundus  for 0.6 BTC, kindly escrow for us, the whole trade will finish in 2 minutes, thank you.


Of course,
aahzmundus please send me the account credentials.
zendantom, please send 0.612BTC to 177hm1hkESvYVZHSker3SzyX9dD6NnbFDF

Upon transfer of the account, the held funds will be released to the seller provided address.


the trade is already over thank you.

Please help me Quickseller.
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June 19, 2015, 10:48:50 AM
While it is always recommended to use escrow for trades, most escrow agents are not going to have sufficient expertise to be able to protect you from hacked accounts. I know of at least one instance recently when an escrow accepted a signed message from an address that was posted that day which is worthless. Not surprisingly, the account turned out to be hacked.   

Which escrow was that?
copper member
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June 19, 2015, 10:37:52 AM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.

You're right. That's what this thread is for - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318

I guess there's still the risk of the person quoting it being an alt but it's better than nothing.
so it should be careful in buying bitcointalk account, so as not to get account the results of the hack

usually hacked account will be reported on meta section by the owner and get neg-trust ( from other members ), so the first thing you have to know is don't make a deal with newbie account and neg-trust ( except using escrow while transaction )... Smiley
So how do I know if the account is not the result of "hack"? due account hack results usually go round the old accounts that are inactive, and the owner does not know that his account has been taken of people

Thats why using escrow on dealing things is a must. You can ask your escrow to help you on check it whether it is hacked account or not because if you simply ask seller they would not even tell you. May be you can check it through meta. Its on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0
a better piece of advice would rather be that you should ask for a signed message from an address that was posted a long time ago.

While it is always recommended to use escrow for trades, most escrow agents are not going to have sufficient expertise to be able to protect you from hacked accounts. I know of at least one instance recently when an escrow accepted a signed message from an address that was posted that day which is worthless. Not surprisingly, the account turned out to be hacked.   
legendary
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June 19, 2015, 10:30:25 AM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.

You're right. That's what this thread is for - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318

I guess there's still the risk of the person quoting it being an alt but it's better than nothing.
so it should be careful in buying bitcointalk account, so as not to get account the results of the hack

usually hacked account will be reported on meta section by the owner and get neg-trust ( from other members ), so the first thing you have to know is don't make a deal with newbie account and neg-trust ( except using escrow while transaction )... Smiley
So how do I know if the account is not the result of "hack"? due account hack results usually go round the old accounts that are inactive, and the owner does not know that his account has been taken of people

Thats why using escrow on dealing things is a must. You can ask your escrow to help you on check it whether it is hacked account or not because if you simply ask seller they would not even tell you. May be you can check it through meta. Its on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0
member
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I'm Just Try
June 19, 2015, 07:25:05 AM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.

You're right. That's what this thread is for - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318

I guess there's still the risk of the person quoting it being an alt but it's better than nothing.
so it should be careful in buying bitcointalk account, so as not to get account the results of the hack

usually hacked account will be reported on meta section by the owner and get neg-trust ( from other members ), so the first thing you have to know is don't make a deal with newbie account and neg-trust ( except using escrow while transaction )... Smiley
So how do I know if the account is not the result of "hack"? due account hack results usually go round the old accounts that are inactive, and the owner does not know that his account has been taken of people
legendary
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June 19, 2015, 01:15:41 AM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.

You're right. That's what this thread is for - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318

I guess there's still the risk of the person quoting it being an alt but it's better than nothing.
so it should be careful in buying bitcointalk account, so as not to get account the results of the hack

usually hacked account will be reported on meta section by the owner and get neg-trust ( from other members ), so the first thing you have to know is don't make a deal with newbie account and neg-trust ( except using escrow while transaction )... Smiley
member
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I'm Just Try
June 18, 2015, 05:50:07 PM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.

You're right. That's what this thread is for - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318

I guess there's still the risk of the person quoting it being an alt but it's better than nothing.
so it should be careful in buying bitcointalk account, so as not to get account the results of the hack
hero member
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June 18, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
well to any deal on internet must search and confirm what you paying for i made several deals over the last years and till now i got scammed only from ptc sites .... i were making daily around 8% my investment soo i would roin in 13 days on them akakkak but went down and didnt paid soo i get out of them already
legendary
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June 18, 2015, 10:02:31 AM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.

You're right. That's what this thread is for - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318

I guess there's still the risk of the person quoting it being an alt but it's better than nothing.
member
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June 18, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile

A message posted in their profile is useless as there's no logs of them and anyone can change it on a whim. They need to be on an unedited post on the forum from a long time ago so people can prove they account belongs to them without a doubt.
legendary
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June 18, 2015, 02:59:18 AM
well accounts market already happens but is hard to trust in them.... we should trust on hero account saying that wanna sell account... but can be the second owner that wanna scam soo send pm to 3 people and scam both...... will get banned and with pocket full..... better stay away and invest a bit time to reach high ranks here lol

this is true especially after the forum went ddos, now there is a high chance, that some hero has been hacked, and are used to gain trust or to be sold for few pennies

it is better to use escrow with anyone
DDOS doesn't leak any personal info/password. Ddos is an attempt by the hackers to try to disrupt the service to other users by flooding useless packets. The recent hack was by social engineering. Even though passwords were encrypted, it doesn't harm to ask for a signed message if the person was inactive for a long time or posting style changes.

i know it, l i said ddos, i the sense that it went down , i should have said "ddos'd"

it's is certain that many account were hacked, i see already suspicious activity, there are for example few old acccount, that were practically never used for a long time, that has returned suddently, active

and signing message will not cut it, because some of those were not carrying any address in their profile
hero member
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June 18, 2015, 02:03:08 AM
well accounts market already happens but is hard to trust in them.... we should trust on hero account saying that wanna sell account... but can be the second owner that wanna scam soo send pm to 3 people and scam both...... will get banned and with pocket full..... better stay away and invest a bit time to reach high ranks here lol

this is true especially after the forum went ddos, now there is a high chance, that some hero has been hacked, and are used to gain trust or to be sold for few pennies

it is better to use escrow with anyone
DDOS doesn't leak any personal info/password. Ddos is an attempt by the hackers to try to disrupt the service to other users by flooding useless packets. The recent hack was by social engineering. Even though passwords were encrypted, it doesn't harm to ask for a signed message if the person was inactive for a long time or posting style changes.
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June 18, 2015, 01:58:16 AM
well accounts market already happens but is hard to trust in them.... we should trust on hero account saying that wanna sell account... but can be the second owner that wanna scam soo send pm to 3 people and scam both...... will get banned and with pocket full..... better stay away and invest a bit time to reach high ranks here lol

this is true especially after the forum went ddos, now there is a high chance, that some hero has been hacked, and are used to gain trust or to be sold for few pennies

it is better to use escrow with anyone

agreed. and remember to always ask for a prove of ownership by signed message from an address on an old unedited post (preferably quoted). if they can't do this then that account is probably hacked or have been sold by the original owner before.
legendary
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June 18, 2015, 01:51:19 AM
well accounts market already happens but is hard to trust in them.... we should trust on hero account saying that wanna sell account... but can be the second owner that wanna scam soo send pm to 3 people and scam both...... will get banned and with pocket full..... better stay away and invest a bit time to reach high ranks here lol

this is true especially after the forum went ddos, now there is a high chance, that some hero has been hacked, and are used to gain trust or to be sold for few pennies

it is better to use escrow with anyone
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