I'll bet 4 against 1 BTC that neither the USA nor Israel executes an overt Air Strike against Iran during 2011 or 2012.
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Who would invade? The US is broke and pulling out of Iraq and anywhere else they can will save them precious dollars, and pretty much most "west" countries are up to their eyeballs in debt too. The only real reason for the wars like desert storm (1990-91) was oil, and that is still really the only reason - to take control of the commodity.
Who would invade? The US is broke and pulling out of Iraq and anywhere else they can will save them precious dollars, and pretty much most "west" countries are up to their eyeballs in debt too. The only real reason for the wars like desert storm (1990-91) was oil, and that is still really the only reason - to take control of the commodity.
Hearing lots of rumblings from military personnel that an attack is now imminent within the next few weeks....snip...
...snip...
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
Still banging the same drum ?
There won't be a war with Iran this side of the 2012 election. Yes the Israel lobby is screaming for war but Obama won't throw away his slim chance at re-election for the sake of Netanyahu.
While I agree it's unlikely for something major to happen before the election, invasion to Iran would hardly be "for the sake of Netanyahu".
To quote John Perkins from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oARBdBtGenM&feature=player_detailpage#t=835s
Quote from: John Perkins
Because after all... what we want to do is control the middle east and control the oil in the middle east. And incidentally (I'm going to get back to Iraq in just a moment):
For those of you who think that Israel is about creating a homeland for the jewish people,... you're as deceived as most of them are. It's partly about that perhaps, but what it's really about is creating a surrogate fortress in the middle of the middle east. The Israelis are being used as pawns, they're being used like old armies used to use sheep that ran before the armies. They are surrogates. And their leadership knows that.
For those of you who think that Israel is about creating a homeland for the jewish people,... you're as deceived as most of them are. It's partly about that perhaps, but what it's really about is creating a surrogate fortress in the middle of the middle east. The Israelis are being used as pawns, they're being used like old armies used to use sheep that ran before the armies. They are surrogates. And their leadership knows that.
Just look at a map, it makes total sense.
The problem is that the US used to be opposed to Israel and be pro-Arab. For example, the US backed Egypt in the Suez Crisis. Things changed when Isreal wtfpwned the Arabs in 1967. If you seriously believe that getting US military aid is a burden on Isreal or that Isreal is a puppet state, you are mistaken.
Hearing lots of rumblings from military personnel that an attack is now imminent within the next few weeks....snip...
...snip...
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
Still banging the same drum ?
There won't be a war with Iran this side of the 2012 election. Yes the Israel lobby is screaming for war but Obama won't throw away his slim chance at re-election for the sake of Netanyahu.
While I agree it's unlikely for something major to happen before the election, invasion to Iran would hardly be "for the sake of Netanyahu".
To quote John Perkins from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oARBdBtGenM&feature=player_detailpage#t=835s
Quote from: John Perkins
Because after all... what we want to do is control the middle east and control the oil in the middle east. And incidentally (I'm going to get back to Iraq in just a moment):
For those of you who think that Israel is about creating a homeland for the jewish people,... you're as deceived as most of them are. It's partly about that perhaps, but what it's really about is creating a surrogate fortress in the middle of the middle east. The Israelis are being used as pawns, they're being used like old armies used to use sheep that ran before the armies. They are surrogates. And their leadership knows that.
For those of you who think that Israel is about creating a homeland for the jewish people,... you're as deceived as most of them are. It's partly about that perhaps, but what it's really about is creating a surrogate fortress in the middle of the middle east. The Israelis are being used as pawns, they're being used like old armies used to use sheep that ran before the armies. They are surrogates. And their leadership knows that.
Just look at a map, it makes total sense.
Hearing lots of rumblings from military personnel that an attack is now imminent within the next few weeks....snip...
...snip...
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
Still banging the same drum ?
There won't be a war with Iran this side of the 2012 election. Yes the Israel lobby is screaming for war but Obama won't throw away his slim chance at re-election for the sake of Netanyahu.
Was Israel Behind a Deadly Explosion at an Iranian Missile Base?
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2099376,00.html
Explosion rocks Iran city of Isfahan, home to key nuclear facility
http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/2711
Iran Arrests 12 CIA Agents 'Planning Attacks'
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16116722
Russia Warns US, Israel against Attack on Iran
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007274505
Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2099376,00.html
Explosion rocks Iran city of Isfahan, home to key nuclear facility
http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/2711
Iran Arrests 12 CIA Agents 'Planning Attacks'
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16116722
Russia Warns US, Israel against Attack on Iran
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007274505
Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552
TICK...TICK...TICK.........
When I was in Iraq in 2005 the same rumblings were going on. An attack was imminent at that point too.
you were in Iraq? I'm curious as to how you feel about the war(s)?
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Correct - you make yourself a conspiracy nut - nothing to do with me. The plan to kill the Saudi ambassador is most likely a rogue element in the Iranian establishment and already the US and Iran are having direct talks to avert conflict: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/13/501364/main20120177.shtml
Never assume a conspiracy when a cock-up is the most probable explanation. Looking at the sad sack that has been arrested, I can't see any way this was a proper Iranian operation.
Correct - you make yourself a conspiracy nut - nothing to do with me. The plan to kill the Saudi ambassador is most likely a rogue element in the Iranian establishment and already the US and Iran are having direct talks to avert conflict: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/13/501364/main20120177.shtml
Never assume a conspiracy when a cock-up is the most probable explanation. Looking at the sad sack that has been arrested, I can't see any way this was a proper Iranian operation.
I bet you feel smarter already. You sure do make a lot of assumptions yourself for some one telling others not to make them. By the way, please refrain from telling me what I think, I can do that myself, thanks.
This whole assassination plot was clearly designed and allowed to move forward to give pretense for an invasion. The alleged perpetrator has a history as an informant for the DEA. It wouldn't be the first time in history an attack was either crafted or allowed to happen in order to justify escalation into war. It is one of the oldest military tactics available, and has been quite effective throughout history.
Now before you get upset again and have another fit, stop yourself - and THINK before you speak. Emotion is not equivalent to logic no matter how much you would like it to be. Getting louder, angrier, and more confrontational does not equate to knowledge on your part. Stick to the subject at hand if you can manage to pull yourself away from your rage addiction.
There is not going to be an invasion of Iran this side of the 2012 elections. Even if Iran attacks US shipping there will not be an invasion of Iran. Any time it wants, Iran can supply the Taliban with surface to air missiles and Semtex. The political cost of losing in Afghanistan would simply be too high.
There was a guy spoke to me about the war on Iran, reading from the Bible, saying Israel and US must attack Iran, but in specific detail and took somewhere an hour long or longer explaining in detail, it is very interesting indeed, this was out of the King James Version Bible. I wouldn't doubt it is coming soon.
I always try to resist being a conspiracy nut, but everything happening in the world look more and more biblical as I get older. I mean, the foundation of Israel. Seriously? How come these things happen in the real world? I sincerely doubt that there are particular people in control of this. More likely it's how ideas work. We need more science thrown at this.
*me thinks a way to free social science using Bitcoin*
Wow conspiracy nuts are out in force today.
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Your complete lack of historical knowledge does not make me a conspiracy nut. In fact it just makes you a poorly educated person with nothing to say, so in order to feel like you can hang, you have to resort to petty personal attacks because that is all you can handle.
Correct - you make yourself a conspiracy nut - nothing to do with me. The plan to kill the Saudi ambassador is most likely a rogue element in the Iranian establishment and already the US and Iran are having direct talks to avert conflict: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/13/501364/main20120177.shtml
Never assume a conspiracy when a cock-up is the most probable explanation. Looking at the sad sack that has been arrested, I can't see any way this was a proper Iranian operation.
I bet you feel smarter already. You sure do make a lot of assumptions yourself for some one telling others not to make them. By the way, please refrain from telling me what I think, I can do that myself, thanks.
This whole assassination plot was clearly designed and allowed to move forward to give pretense for an invasion. The alleged perpetrator has a history as an informant for the DEA. It wouldn't be the first time in history an attack was either crafted or allowed to happen in order to justify escalation into war. It is one of the oldest military tactics available, and has been quite effective throughout history.
Now before you get upset again and have another fit, stop yourself - and THINK before you speak. Emotion is not equivalent to logic regardless of how much you would like it to be. Getting louder, angrier, and more confrontational does not equate to knowledge on your part. Stick to the subject at hand if you can manage to pull yourself away from your rage addiction.
There was a guy spoke to me about the war on Iran, reading from the Bible, saying Israel and US must attack Iran, but in specific detail and took somewhere an hour long or longer explaining in detail, it is very interesting indeed, this was out of the King James Version Bible. I wouldn't doubt it is coming soon.
Will it be followed by the Rapture?
There was a guy spoke to me about the war on Iran, reading from the Bible, saying Israel and US must attack Iran, but in specific detail and took somewhere an hour long or longer explaining in detail, it is very interesting indeed, this was out of the King James Version Bible. I wouldn't doubt it is coming soon.
Wow conspiracy nuts are out in force today.
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Your complete lack of historical knowledge does not make me a conspiracy nut. In fact it just makes you a poorly educated person with nothing to say, so in order to feel like you can hang, you have to resort to petty personal attacks because that is all you can handle.
Correct - you make yourself a conspiracy nut - nothing to do with me. The plan to kill the Saudi ambassador is most likely a rogue element in the Iranian establishment and already the US and Iran are having direct talks to avert conflict: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/13/501364/main20120177.shtml
Never assume a conspiracy when a cock-up is the most probable explanation. Looking at the sad sack that has been arrested, I can't see any way this was a proper Iranian operation.
It honestly won't happen, even our politicians aren't that stupid after Iraq/Afghanistan.
You still think the politicians are the ones deciding such a thing?Insightful.
Also, a war with Iran would never end. I'm a damned militant atheist and even I would do whatever I can to support Iran. Not to mention that everyone with a grudge against you will come together and bitch slap you to your proper place. Not going to happen, at least now. You need to divide and conquer, which is what they did to Arabs. They tried the trick they used on Afghanistan on Iran for the last half century and couldn't make it work either. Anyone here lived through the Iran–Iraq war?
What makes you think they want it to end? It is increasingly clear that war in the middle east was designed to never end. A lot of powerful people get rich and gain more control in an environment of endless war. Just pick any family from old money, and check their history... the trail of blood is never far behind.
Yeah, peace is just not profitable. Never-ending war, however, very much so. A war on "terrorists and all countries that support them" is very suitable.
Wow conspiracy nuts are out in force today.
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Your complete lack of historical knowledge does not make me a conspiracy nut. In fact it just makes you a poorly educated person with nothing to say, so in order to feel like you can hang, you have to resort to petty personal attacks because that is all you can handle.
Wow conspiracy nuts are out in force today.
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
Is the invasion of Iran being orchestrated by the Bilderberg or the Freemasons?
It honestly won't happen, even our politicians aren't that stupid after Iraq/Afghanistan.
You still think the politicians are the ones deciding such a thing?Insightful.
Also, a war with Iran would never end. I'm a damned militant atheist and even I would do whatever I can to support Iran. Not to mention that everyone with a grudge against you will come together and bitch slap you to your proper place. Not going to happen, at least now. You need to divide and conquer, which is what they did to Arabs. They tried the trick they used on Afghanistan on Iran for the last half century and couldn't make it work either. Anyone here lived through the Iran–Iraq war?
What makes you think they want it to end? It is increasingly clear that war in the middle east was designed to never end. A lot of powerful people get rich and gain more control in an environment of endless war. Just pick any family from old money, and check their history... the trail of blood is never far behind.
The US gov is broken, even the politicians are realizing that. Probably the only reason they've decided to announce Osama's death was to be able to slowly retreat from Afghanistan and save some bucks. Or not...
It honestly won't happen, even our politicians aren't that stupid after Iraq/Afghanistan.
You still think the politicians are the ones deciding such a thing?Insightful.
Also, a war with Iran would never end. I'm a damned militant atheist and even I would do whatever I can to support Iran. Not to mention that everyone with a grudge against you will come together and bitch slap you to your proper place. Not going to happen, at least now. You need to divide and conquer, which is what they did to Arabs. They tried the trick they used on Afghanistan on Iran for the last half century and couldn't make it work either. Anyone here lived through the Iran–Iraq war?
When it gets them votes when an election is coming up.
You might want to check out a company called Diebold.
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