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Topic: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message - page 15. (Read 9826 times)

legendary
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Not that it's getting too boring.. 4D chess again

Does playing 4D chess require lying, defrauding, swindling, doctoring documents, and impostoring? Because he's losing, and no one is playing his game.

obviously he is playing against himself. thats why he thinks he can win. as he is a half wit, one half will win.. right?

4D chess FTW

Technically speaking, all games of chess are 4D chess. The chessboard and its pieces are 3D.
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
Not that it's getting too boring.. 4D chess again

Does playing 4D chess require lying, defrauding, swindling, doctoring documents, and impostoring? Because he's losing, and no one is playing his game.

obviously he is playing against himself. thats why he thinks he can win. as he is a half wit, one half will win.. right?

4D chess FTW
legendary
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Not that it's getting too boring.. 4D chess again


 Roll Eyes

Does playing 4D chess require lying, defrauding, swindling, doctoring documents, and impostoring? Because he's losing, and no one is playing his game.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
Not that it's getting too boring.. 4D chess again

So now the argument from the SV brigade is that perjuring yourself with provable lies is the work of a genius?  You're going to have to explain that one in a little more depth, I think.  What part of Faketoshi's "chess strategy" is accomplished by becoming a convicted felon?
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
Not that it's getting too boring.. 4D chess again
sr. member
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And guess what? If you read the letter Craig doesn't have the private keys anymore because they were stolen on Feb 5th 2020.

And the shitshow goes on in that letter when "Tulip" claims the rights to the name Bitcoin and the "Bitcoin Database"...
legendary
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Oh boy listen now this shit...and enjoy the fun  Grin
Craig Wright = Mt.Gox hacker ?

Craig Wright now may be the hacker that hacked Mt. Gox exchange back in year 2011, when 79 956 Bitcoins got stolen.
His lawyers sent a letter to Blockstream in witch he claims the ownership of two addresses, and one of them is the same address that received BTC stolen from Mt.Gox exchange  Grin
This is one of mentioned address:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e67a0550848b7932d7796aeea16ab0e48a5cfe81c4e8cca2c5b03e0416850114



 



sources:
https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1271471545790222336
https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1271468034931036160
https://decrypt.co/32198/did-the-mt-gox-bitcoin-hacker-finally-reveal-himself
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
i hope you realise your own 'research' such as the letter you linked which was the BILL(audit results) which was ATO's final 'last dealings' with craig before he escaped their jurisdiction

then realise that although craig is going to be found guilty of fraud LATER ON.. that is for another case another time in another venue.
then realise the current case/venue is about something else. and the details of it are very clear as to what its all about

yes we bitcoiners know that craig is a fraud. but the law does not work in that fashion.
and craig is wasting the courts time trying to escape his liability.

one day craig will get the punishment he deserves. but it wont be from this ira/craig case

If such a pathological scamster has his toe into many simultaneous scam attempts, his fugitive from justice status will likely catch up with him at some point, and even if we might place bets upon which ways or how he might be called to pay, we cannot necessarily predict with any kind of precision beyond merely throwing of darts in the direction of a board while blindfolded.
legendary
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i hope you realise your own 'research' such as the letter you linked which was the BILL(audit results) which was ATO's final 'last dealings' with craig before he escaped their jurisdiction

then realise that although craig is going to be found guilty of fraud LATER ON.. that is for another case another time in another venue.
then realise the current case/venue is about something else. and the details of it are very clear as to what its all about

yes we bitcoiners know that craig is a fraud. but the law does not work in that fashion.
and craig is wasting the courts time trying to escape his liability.

one day craig will get the punishment he deserves. but it wont be from this ira/craig case
legendary
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from the LEGAL prospective of the ATO. at this present moment craig is only under investigation for tax AVOIDANCE. which is civil. thus statue of limitations
the whole 'is tulip real or not' is still in question. so ATO are not going after him for fraud(criminal) presently

ATO has not even done much on the evasion/fruad part of craigs 'company' all the ATO have done was audited a company and asked for tax.

tax avoidance. is not criminal
tax evasion/fraud is criminal
learn the difference and it will enlighten you more

You are hopelessly misinformed. There's really no point in arguing with you as you can't be bothered to produce a single reference that backs up any of your claims.

I suggest you take the time to learn about the ATO's past dealings with Craig before you churn out another idiotic comment as its evident you haven't done the slightest amount of background research on the subject.
legendary
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doomad. grow up
many things are just too much over your head

like nutdildah does not realise is the very simple stuff.
from the LEGAL prospective of the ATO. at this present moment craig is only under investigation for tax AVOIDANCE. which is civil. thus statue of limitations
the whole 'is tulip real or not' is still in question. so ATO are not going after him for fraud(criminal) presently

ATO has not even done much on the evasion/fruad part of craigs 'company' all the ATO have done was audited a company and asked for tax.

tax avoidance. is not criminal
tax evasion/fraud is criminal
learn the difference and it will enlighten you more

what im saying is that craig THIS YEAR is trying to escape the civil tax bill. by keeping the ownership of the assets in question..
after all.. who owes the tax if they dont know who owns the asset

its why he nominated himself as satoshi then backtracked because he knew the tax bill would hurt him. part of his game is to say if he is or isnt or if ira or another person was.. or if they all knew/were satoshi. causing so much confusion for tax AVOIDANCE purposes. along with the whole 'cant access funds for x years' BS

but still having that fine line of pretending that there is assets and it has value and he has access to it

yes we devs and bitcoin people know the tulip trust is fake. but in court. in law. that is still in question

what i said multiple times now.
craig is trying to escape the civil tax bill statute of limitations deadline.
but
later wont be able to escape the criminal fraud.
but like i said. and you need to realise this. the fraud is not court proven YET

again for emphasis. to save reposting to idiots
yes we in the bitcoin community know that the tulip trust has no assets and is just a txt file of public keys anyone can copy and paste.
yes we in the community know craig is a scammer. but the law is still in the grey area. and the ATO are not pursuing the fraud because its still in question.. thats a fight for a later date. and yes craig will lose that fight. but thats not the fight happening this year.
this years fight is to outpace the civil stuff
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
that time is running out.

Point to me exactly where in the Australian tax code it says there is a statute of limitations on pursuing tax fraud charges. Don't just talk rubbish - anybody can do that - produce a reference from the law.

That's not how arguing with franky1 works, you have to keep "researching" until you arrive at the same fantasy conclusion franky1 arrived at.   Grin

Don't let anything get in the way of a good fairytale.  Facts, references, citations, they're all totally meaningless when they conflict with the soap opera storyline franky1 has concocted in his special brain.
legendary
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that time is running out.

Point to me exactly where in the Australian tax code it says there is a statute of limitations on pursuing tax fraud charges. Don't just talk rubbish - anybody can do that - produce a reference from the law.

however like i said. not paying a tax bill is a civil thing with civil limitations

If you don't pay a tax bill for long enough it doesn't magically disappear. It doesn't work that way anywhere in the world.

ill explain it as if your 5

*you're

Does't matter how you explain it because its all nonsense.
legendary
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Did you not see the tax bill I posted that Craig owes? There is no "statute of limitations" on that. Regardless, I'm not talking about a court case, I'm talking about an investigation case.

You apparently didn't read the link I posted: there is no statute of limitations for pursuing tax fraud in Australia. You just imagineered yet another conspiracy without anything of substance to back it. What is your source for your information on statutes of limitations? Whatever it is, it contradicts guidelines published by the ATO.

Read it again:

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The law allows the Commissioner of Taxation to assess tax outside of the usual time limits where the Commissioner has formed an opinion that a taxpayer's behaviour amounts to fraud or evasion.

Then, do better research.

did you not read it
its not a court order.
its a tax BILL letter from the ATO showing after investigating(auditing) the amount thats owed.
the ATO did not at the point of that june letter take craig to court. but because the company didnt pay up by september. the ATO were about to start a court case against craig. but he had already fled to the UK and the police raid found an empty australian house.

meaning no court case. meaning now he is out of the australian jurisdiction they have to wait for an oppertunity to grab him and then make a case.
that time is running out.

however like i said. not paying a tax bill is a civil thing with civil limitations
but the lying about the valuation(fake tulip trust) to get australian tax grants. that is criminal fraud.
and craig can get real prison time for the fraud.

craigs plan this year is to atleast outpace the civil case.
because he is definetely losing the criminal case


ill explain it as if your 5
craig got ira on his side. he hoped a dumb judge would believe ira/craig had valuable tulip trust. and then say so on court filings. and then ira/craig would then suddenly say they will do a private settlement
to avoid craig actually having to pay out millions on record(because he doesnt have it)
..
but they know by faking the validation of the trust by dumb judge means craig has to repay millions in tax if this case is closed this year.
..
so the main game this year is to outpace the tax bill civil limitations. by getting ira to keep asking small limited open questions. to keep the case alive
..
though the judge is not dumb and has asked for actual proof of validity of the trust in the form of signed messages. private key proof.
this has slightly worked in craigs favour because now he can play back and fourth for a few more months.

however if a judge rules this year that craig has no proof of trust value. then craig is screwed both in civil and criminal.

however ira is not playing the judge/community side of proving craig is a fraud. ira is playing craigs game that craig does have value.. because.... ira and craig are working together

..
keep this thought in mind
why is ira constantly acting like the tulip trust is legit. where everyone else knows its fake
answer: because ira is on craigs side and only playing frenemy
a real honest person would call out the fraud and say the craig deceived his brother and want compensation for the deceit.. but no ira is playing craigs game of pretending tulip had value.
hv_
legendary
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problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

When is the Aussie statute of limitations up?  Thanks.  

Never.

Franky is incorrect in that there is not necessarily a statute of limitation date for the ATO to pursue tax fraud charges once a case has been initiated.

https://www.ato.gov.au/About-ATO/Commitments-and-reporting/In-detail/FOI/Fraud-and-evasion-guidelines/

According to a court document released just a few weeks ago, the ATO was actively investigating Wright as of June 2018:



Everything else Franky said is just a baseless conspiracy theory. An interesting one, but not grounded in anything tangible.

When I used to chat with Craig [cause we were buds] he told me about the ATO.  He said he left Australia in part cause the high yearly paper profit Tax.  And that he reported his btc holdings upon exit which at that time were worth relatively little.  So any taxes to the commie Aussies he owes is minuscule compared to the current btc price and all the free forks.  In other words, the ATO has nothing on him cause he left when btc was cheap.  

Cause Craig is smart.  Like me.  



Trolls do not like such truth. It will destroy so much they re living and dreaming for.

They ll always ask you to deliver more proof whatsoever

But neither Satoshi nor you owe such (incl anonymous signing, lol) , its PoW to dig out sources for anybody. Do your own research
legendary
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actually you might want to research better

ATO many years ago were only in the 'investigation stage'
craig legged it out of australia before any arrests and court cases started.

heck the ATO didnt even declare how to even categorise bitcoin for tax purposes untill december 2014
and the ATO quoted they didnt have any records of any court proceedings involving craig before 2015(time asked). meaning that ATO had not initiated a court case.
and right now while the tulips case is in the jurisdiction of another court in another country the ATO cant.. and thats what craig knows all about

he left australia when ATO contacted him about his tax fraud. this was ~autumn 2015. which would be the date at which they raided his then empty house in australia where a court case WOULD HAVE BEGUN


what the ATO can do if it passes the CIVIL limitations. is to then go after him for CRIMINAL charges

Did you not see the tax bill I posted that Craig owes? There is no "statute of limitations" on that. Regardless, I'm not talking about a court case, I'm talking about an investigation case.

You apparently didn't read the link I posted: there is no statute of limitations for pursuing tax fraud in Australia. You just imagineered yet another conspiracy without anything of substance to back it. What is your source for your information on statutes of limitations? Whatever it is, it contradicts guidelines published by the ATO.

Read it again:

Quote
The law allows the Commissioner of Taxation to assess tax outside of the usual time limits where the Commissioner has formed an opinion that a taxpayer's behaviour amounts to fraud or evasion.

Then, do better research.

Lol.
legendary
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problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

When is the Aussie statute of limitations up?  Thanks.  

Never.

Franky is incorrect in that there is not necessarily a statute of limitation date for the ATO to pursue tax fraud charges once a case has been initiated.

actually you might want to research better

ATO many years ago were only in the 'investigation stage'
craig legged it out of australia before any arrests and court cases started.

heck the ATO didnt even declare how to even categorise bitcoin for tax purposes untill december 2014
and the ATO quoted they didnt have any records of any court proceedings involving craig before 2015(time asked). meaning that ATO had not initiated a court case.
and right now while the tulips case is in the jurisdiction of another court in another country the ATO cant.. and thats what craig knows all about

he left australia when ATO contacted him about his tax fraud. this was ~autumn 2015. which would be the date at which they raided his then empty house in australia where a court case WOULD HAVE BEGUN


what the ATO can do if it passes the CIVIL limitations. is to then go after him for CRIMINAL charges
hv_
legendary
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Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.
He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!
https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

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...

Wright has the keys

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

...

problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

Interesting, but maybe someone else is paying Ira to destroy Craig's story. Do you have any info to backup your statement?

... sure, someone has to pay for the show each. I ve only seen docs proof that one side has / had a lot of property
member
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He has been a trick star since I first started reading about him, that is how he keeps deceiving people about BSV and funny his disciples will never engage him in an intellectual discuss.
AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.
He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!
https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

Quote
...

Wright has the keys

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

...

problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

Interesting, but maybe someone else is paying Ira to destroy Craig's story. Do you have any info to backup your statement?
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