Craig Wright provided the list of addresses that contains 1.1 million btc

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Quote from: Jating on January 16, 2020, 07:15:44 PM

Well we all know that bitcoin addresses doesn't have any names, so it doesn't proved anything.

As others have said, you can just plucked that addresses and own it, but unless CSW can sign the messages of those BTC addresses, those are useless. I'm sure that when the judge ask him to digitally sign from those addresses, you will come up with lots of reasons again.

Is that list of addresses public? Or it will at some point? Because if you can see those addresses maybe a whale could see some of his addresses in the list and sign a message saying that Craig does not own those coins disproving him once and for all without having to deal with all of the circus he is trying to create.

And I agree with you once we come to the point in which he needs to prove that he has access to those funds he will get amnesia and will not remember were he stored those private keys or will invent a story about how his hard drive crashed losing his coins in the process.

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Quote from: clickerz on January 18, 2020, 06:54:06 AM

A list that contains bitcoin address does not prove something unless you have the private key or access to it. Craig Wright cannot prove he or eve withdraw a single satoshi to those Satoshi's wallet. He is a fake, and fraud maybe. What we want is that he should show that he has access to those wallets and this issue is done.

He can boast it because it is just an address. No one knows who it owns because of anonymity. If he show to the public then he will say that it is his privacy. Because if private keys were shown, we can all access freely the wallets. I think he needs to make a video showing how he owns a lot of bitcoin. But he will never do it because he is only an actor not an innovator.

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Quote from: kro55 on January 19, 2020, 07:24:27 AM

Here is latest on that 1.1 million btc

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Craig Wright Can’t Access Disputed Stash of 1.1 Million Bitcoin Worth $9.8 Billion

"Wright responded in the affirmative, claiming that a “bonded courier” who possesses the keys to unlock the encrypted Bitcoin would arrive this month. Until the appearance of said courier, Wright said that the alleged “Tulip Trust” containing the Bitcoin would remain inaccessible."

Craig just found an excuse. I bet this bonded courier will never arrive. Or he will do a scenario of hi-jacking such important file. Craig had been lying all these years, why do we have to believe him? This event is a staged one created by Craig himself to delay and mislead people to the actual information.

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We can do that too right?
It is a public key. Maybe he should provide private keys next time.
He is making a fool out of those people in the trial. But here, we are not.

What I really want is to go thru this guy's mind.
What is he thinking? Is there a plan ahead after this?
If he lose, what will be next? Grin

Could be a lot of rainbows in that small brain of him. Maybe Patrick is a lot wiser. Grin

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Here is latest on that 1.1 million btc

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Craig Wright Can’t Access Disputed Stash of 1.1 Million Bitcoin Worth $9.8 Billion

"Wright responded in the affirmative, claiming that a “bonded courier” who possesses the keys to unlock the encrypted Bitcoin would arrive this month. Until the appearance of said courier, Wright said that the alleged “Tulip Trust” containing the Bitcoin would remain inaccessible."

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They problem is can judge believe and have realistic argument about the problem, to proof that address is correct is not easy, need professional to do that. Showing 1.1 million btc will create crime and speculation and I think this part will used by whales to manipulate market with bait. Only need to push the news in every social media and articles, from there new mindset will built and whales only need to invite us for fake movement. Leave the news away and never share it, you make us can't focus what we doing right now.

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Quote from: DaveF on January 18, 2020, 06:23:00 AM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 18, 2020, 05:42:27 AM

I refuse to believe anyone is stupid enough to actually believe this nonsense, and the BSV shills are just trying to pump it to offload their bags.

Some people stood up and supported Enron / MCI / Countrywide Mortgage even after the end was known.
Hell I know someone who was probably the last one out of the local Countrywide office.

So, don't discount how blind and stupid people are.

It's magical internet money we are talking about here so it's a bit worse.

With the above being said, anyone who has believed and still believes CW is a fracking idiot.

-Dave

No one is that stupid to believe in a person who trolls, has a history of lying, faking documents, faking key signing, and more.

We have been trolled.

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Quote from: pixie85 on January 18, 2020, 06:08:45 PM

There aren't that many big addresses on the network, ones that hold over 10 BTC. Craig had to find those addresses and list them.

I'm pretty sure that's not what he did - even CSW isn't that stupid (although I'm sure many of his followers are).

He'll have gone through early addresses from the first couple of months of bitcoin and listed the ones which are strongly suspected to be linked to Satoshi. These are mostly (or perhaps even exclusively) coinbase transactions from early mined blocks which have never been spent. Various people have done things like this in the past to try to estimate how many coins Satoshi owns, such as here: https://bitslog.com/2013/04/24/satoshi-s-fortune-a-more-accurate-figure/.

Even if he gets some of them wrong, and lists addresses which don't belong to Satoshi, then his chances of being exposed are very small - the chances of someone having mined a block 10 years ago, not having touched the coins in the intervening 10 years, still be alive and well, still have access to the private keys, and now be willing to move the coins or sign a message for the very first time in 10 years just to prove him wrong, are pretty small.

Quote from: pixie85 on January 18, 2020, 06:08:45 PM

It that list available to public?

Absolutely. Start here and work along: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/block/0

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Makes you wonder if your own addresses aren't on that list.

There aren't that many big addresses on the network, ones that hold over 10 BTC. Craig had to find those addresses and list them. It that list available to public?

If you hold more than 10BTC on a single address chances are Craig included your coins on his list and is trying to make the court believe that he will in some distant future have access to these coins. It would take just 1 person to sign one of Craig's addresses for this scheme to crash hard.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 18, 2020, 05:42:27 AM

Known identity thief CSW previously made a sworn declaration on May 8th "under penalty of perjury" that the bonded courier contained the private keys: https://twitter.com/longandy/status/1217599943512412168

Now he submits a list of publicly available information and states the courier didn't contain the private keys.

Interested to see what ever more ridiculous lie he comes up with this time to reconcile these two events.

I refuse to believe anyone is stupid enough to actually believe this nonsense, and the BSV shills are just trying to pump it to offload their bags.

So he is now guilty of prejury. According to US district laws, since this is a US court case:

Quote from: www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1621

is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States.

This means that it doesn't matter whether CSW made the sworn statement in the US, only that he broke it, and the moment Kleiman's lawyers bring this up in court then he is going to have a hefty fine to pay from his own pocket. But it's unlikely that he will go to prison for this.

Next time he should think again before making such risky sworn statements.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on January 18, 2020, 03:46:33 AM

Craig Wright's lawyer said that he doesn't have the private keys included with the addresses delivered by the bonded courier.

BSV supporters say, "But which lawyer, Craig Wright has many lawyers". Hahaha.

I see what's happening right now, this Faketoshi is doing all the things he can to prove himself as the teal Satoshi which is useless by the way. But he can't even prove it himself. Besides, as what I have said bitcoin itself is already bigger than the creator itself, so I don't see the point of us needing a certain Satoshi Nakamoto to guide us through bitcoin heaven. Just support the coin itself and strategize on your investment to get the highest profits.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 15, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

to prove that he is the real satoshi he needs to show the ownership of all the wallet
this will not prove anything only those don't have knowledge in crypto will believe it
every address that mined bitcoin is public we can see it in bitcoin explorer

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A list that contains bitcoin address does not prove something unless you have the private key or access to it. Craig Wright cannot prove he or eve withdraw a single satoshi to those Satoshi's wallet. He is a fake, and fraud maybe. What we want is that he should show that he has access to those wallets and this issue is done.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 18, 2020, 05:42:27 AM

I refuse to believe anyone is stupid enough to actually believe this nonsense, and the BSV shills are just trying to pump it to offload their bags.

Some people stood up and supported Enron / MCI / Countrywide Mortgage even after the end was known.
Hell I know someone who was probably the last one out of the local Countrywide office.

So, don't discount how blind and stupid people are.

It's magical internet money we are talking about here so it's a bit worse.

With the above being said, anyone who has believed and still believes CW is a fracking idiot.

-Dave

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Known identity thief CSW previously made a sworn declaration on May 8th "under penalty of perjury" that the bonded courier contained the private keys: https://twitter.com/longandy/status/1217599943512412168

Now he submits a list of publicly available information and states the courier didn't contain the private keys.

Interested to see what ever more ridiculous lie he comes up with this time to reconcile these two events.

I refuse to believe anyone is stupid enough to actually believe this nonsense, and the BSV shills are just trying to pump it to offload their bags.

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Craig Wright's lawyer said that he doesn't have the private keys included with the addresses delivered by the bonded courier.

BSV supporters say, "But which lawyer, Craig Wright has many lawyers". Hahaha.

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Quote from: BlacksmithCorporation on January 17, 2020, 10:19:32 AM

This is bullshit, anyone can give evidence like that, Unless he can prove he has access to those wallets. All just a trick to manipulate the price of BSV.

I think there's no correlation about his case and the price of BSV, it's just that he's up to something to prolong his appearance in the court and the exposure in the crypto news. People with a lot of money can do like that as long as they feed more money to their attorneys. As far as I am concerned, I don't like to hear any shit story of CW and his claim because it's annoying because he's not proving anything nor giving a clear evidence of what we people are asking.

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Quote from: drlukacs on January 16, 2020, 11:53:18 PM

Quote from: tsaroz on January 15, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

These are billionaires who often manipulate the market to become richer. Craig often makes market statements to manipulate the crowd and let's be careful of these wallets when there is a big move up the exchange. I have joined a signal group and the bots will automatically notify me of a major shift in the wallets holding a lot of money, here is the link: https://t.me/whale_alert_io

He's taking advantage of that opportunity, what can we expect on someone who claims himself as the person behind that pseudonym? He's trying to manipulate the situation to make it appear that he's right when we can clearly see that it's completely full of foolishness. Well he's just trying to ruin his reputation and dignity, it's the reason why we should be cautious because we don't know his true intentions. I can't find any reason to trust and believe him because he can't even fight for his own statements, maybe because he's afraid that a single mistake can ruin and change everything. He's trying to deceive people by his words but I know that people aren't that stupid to believe his nonsense statements, he's fighting for something isn't true so let's just wait until karma finally hits him and he will surely suffer the consequences of his actions. No doubt why people are talking about him who deserves the title for being a deceiver, he's full of idea to look for various ways to get out on a difficult situations.

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Quote from: Eclipse26 on January 17, 2020, 10:26:03 AM

Will that even prove him as the real Satoshi? This dude really does give so much time for a nonsense claim. Why is he even that obsessed on claiming to be Satoshi but can't even prove it yet.

Quote from: iram3130 on January 17, 2020, 12:04:21 AM

Why are these courts still listening to his bull sh*t arguments. Someone tell the judge that anyone could can see all the addresses which are holding higher amounts of bitcoins and claim like this. I think Craig has lost his mind and just trying to make a dumb argument.

Indeed. They're wasting so much time with this issue. The court could have just finished this nonsense because he can't even prove it. I don't know why the court wants to prolong this argument and claims of Craig Wright.

Because BSV can be pumped and gets free popularity in accordance with the rule - no matter what, people will talk about you.

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CWS counts on people being cryptographically illiterate when he presents "proofs" like this, just like how he presented invalid signature to those journalists back when it all started. And unfortunately, a huge part of cryptocurrency community doesn't understand cryptography in the slightest, all they know is that private keys should be kept secret and not much more. Plus to newbies news sites are a sort of authority, if they report something, that it must be true - it works like that in real life and it's the same with crypto.

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