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legendary
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If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions
CSW? The identity thief? Lie in court!? Surely not! Roll Eyes

a few more days and we will see how the story unfolds.
Unfortunately it will take much longer than that. For all the things CSW isn't, he is good at spinning web upon web of lies that takes weeks or months for the courts to work through. Just when a deadline approaches, he pulls a new stunt (such as submitting 16,000 addresses which prove absolutely nothing) to delay things further.

It was more than enough to fuel enormous pump.
BSV shills aren't exactly the most intelligent people. They've had CSW lie to their faces for years and yet they still swallow whatever word salad he serves them next.

I agree that he is cunning and knows what he is doing, its amazing
how far he has got to date and all the time his BSV grows.
I bet a lot of his "supporters" know the scam and lies he weaves,
they are just hoping for a big profit from their Beloved Shit Version of BTC
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As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

No matter what he does, CSW will remain in my eyes only as a bad guy! This proves that he is a bad guy with a lot of money nothing more!!!
He is completely trustless! I wish he was here so I can send negative trust to him!
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@LoyceV Hide your tools or Craig Wright will come and use them to prove that he has list of first 1000 bitcointalk user or something similar.
Btw it's very funny but the funniest thing is that Craig Wright is under crypto media's attention but the worst is that he is in Hot Stories.
Well, let's mention McAfee for a while, he and Craig share a lot of things in claiming but... McAfee states that Wright was part of creating of bitcoin (totally eleven people in group) but he says that Wright isn't satoshi and he knows who he is (but somehow doesn't seem to prove).
So finally I don't understand what's the aim, you can't build house with singing, you need action and this is the parallel of what Wright is doing. Anyone can provide list, his this action proves that he is joking again, jokes worse than baby and this thing is still official, it's really shame from court.
legendary
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So, it's the responsibility of the wallet owners to prove him wrong.
Careful with this line of thought. The onus is absolutely not on the wallet owners to prove they don't own those addresses. The burden of proof lies squarely with CSW to prove he does own them.

In the event that even one of those addresses stood up and came with a signed message, it would be fun to see what would Craig's reaction would be and how would he plan his cover-up.
Counter point: What if someone signed a message from one of those addresses saying "The court can suck it, I'm not giving Kleiman a single satoshi." I'm not sure there's enough popcorn in the country for the fallout that would follow. Cheesy

I understand your point however we need to keep talking about it because Bitcoin SV is above 300 dollars mainly because of this
It's already dropping, and fast. It's already fallen 33% from the peak, which was less than 24 hours ago. Calvin and CSW will already have dumped on the poor suckers who bought in, now it's just the slow bleed out left over the next few days until the next piece of non evidence repeats the process again.

but I guess that remains to be seen.
It doesn't. There's more likelihood of me being Satoshi and having amnesia about the whole thing than CSW being Satoshi.

The other issue is (sort of) since it does have such a low market cap, [like every alt except perhaps ETH] it is somewhat easy to manipulate for someone with deep enough pockets.
Exactly. CSW and Calvin can buy up some BSV in advance, pump up reddit/twitter/this forum with lies about the courier arriving/private keys/court documents/whatever, once the shills are fully engaged kick off a pump with a single moderately sized buy order (since the marketcap and liquidity are so low), wait a few hours for all the idiots to FOMO in, and dump on them. Then the actual news comes out that he doesn't have private keys at all, and has submitted a list of publicly viewable addresses which anyone with an internet connection could have done. Too late by then. CSW and Calvin have taken their profits, the price is dumping, and a bunch of gullible users are left bagholding this trash coin.
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Right--but he's claiming he does have private keys to those addresses, so I guess it'll be interesting if he shows proof of that.  That would be amazing, in fact.
He has been claiming so many things since the drama started but never had any convincing proof of anything yet. Why do it needs just the private keys of the bitcoin addresses. In this forum we all know his PGP finger prints. He could just post a signed message using the PGP, can't he? There are so many ways he could chose to make things legit if he was legitimately the person he is claiming. Why he had to change the contents of the journal and stuffs from back days... [Please can anyone bring the link of the website where the website owner collected all his fraud activities please].

This drama will continue and my gut feeling is that all he is doing is just wasting everyone's time.
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Down over 11% and below $295. Wonder if there are enough BSV fans to prop it up.
The actual release of the new client, already has stupidity involved:

https://github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv/issues/125

Oops, lets publish code that you can't verify the sig on.

The other issue is (sort of) since it does have such a low market cap, [like every alt except perhaps ETH] it is somewhat easy to manipulate for someone with deep enough pockets. But they don't have to be super deep if you want to make a profit as the tide rises.

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Until he signs a message from those addresses,  that proves nothing.
Right--but he's claiming he does have private keys to those addresses, so I guess it'll be interesting if he shows proof of that.
Just an idea: BSV will come out with a new software version that will make that "possible"*.
Since it's "the original Bitcoin", CSW claims that he in fact is satoshi.
Never underestimate the creativity of an imposter, fraudster, identity thief and desecrator of graves Roll Eyes

* of course, whatever that software will show as a signature will not be a signature in the common meaning of the word in cryptography.
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Until he signs a message from those addresses,  that proves nothing.
Right--but he's claiming he does have private keys to those addresses, so I guess it'll be interesting if he shows proof of that.  That would be amazing, in fact.

I barely recall this Florida court thing and I'm not sure what's going on there or why he has to prove ownership of all those coins.  I'm too apathetic to research it at the moment, but that article linked to in the OP was pretty interesting.  If Satoshi's identity finally gets figured out, that'll be huge.  I always thought bitcoin was created in the US for whatever reason, though I guess I have no basis to really think that.  Didn't think it originated in Australia--but I guess that remains to be seen.

well , as far i know, court filing of the missing part of the private key next week , so let's see what will be happened on next week.
and for remember, wright currently stands accused of stealing half of more than one million btc mined at the beginning of the cryptocurrency's existence.
Huh.  I guess I really haven't been following the drama surrounding the big-name personalities in bitcoin.  That's what I love about bitcointalk.
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Until he signs a message from those addresses,  that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.
Not that I am a fan of Vitalik but he once said something which was more or less like this, There are two ways of proving something. A noisy way and an easy way. Craig always choose the noisy way because he really do not have anything to back him up.

To prove I am me, a known BTC address of me is enough or if I have a PGP finger print then that's enough. No one needs to see how much bitcoin I have.

How many more times we will talk about this BS from Craig?
I understand your point however we need to keep talking about it because Bitcoin SV is above 300 dollars mainly because of this, this news was probably the main reason why Bitcoin SV skyrocketed and if it turns out to be false as the majority of the informed users in the forum believe then there is going to be an important crash in that coin which is going to affect many investors.

Craig can say whatever he wants but when he begins to affect the lives of other people in such a deep way then this is not right anymore.
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It worked for McAfee. Or the QuadrigaCX founder who went to India and likely faked his own death to avoid the $190 million lawsuit he faced. I'm sure CSW is holding enough BSV to dump on his followers to fund whatever escape plan he is concocting.
I am not following McAfee and his legal troubles but i think he is hiding somewhere from the authorities but QuadrigaCX death is a real mystery as he went of the radar if he really lied and the faked death is a conspiracy.

Anyone with a minimum common sense will not dare Perjury as it is a serious offense in any jurisdiction.
Yeah, your mistake there is believing the CSW has any common sense.
Whether CSW have common sense is a huge debate in itself  Cheesy
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well , as far i know, court filing of the missing part of the private key next week , so let's see what will be happened on next week.
and for remember, wright currently stands accused of stealing half of more than one million btc mined at the beginning of the cryptocurrency's existence.
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In case anyone actually believed that he's Satoshi because of the "evidence" that he made a list of the addresses with 1.1 million btc, why doesn't he just cryptographically sign a message from the addresses he just presented and get over it? Is he really expecting people to believe he owns any old address he presents?

Even if he does sign a message, that doesn't prove anything if the wallets don't belong to Satoshi.

He would have done it long time ago, Wright is eager to prove himself to be satoshi. I don't think he can sign any of the old addresses among the thousands of addresses during that time. He would be part of the worst impostor of all time in the history that fooled the newbies in crypto. While Satoshi wanna hide, he's that one inserting himself to fame.
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As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

Haha another act of faketoshi to prove he is the legitimate Satoshi Nakamoto. Anyone can provide Bitcoin address with high balance such information cannot be considered as evidence.
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In case anyone actually believed that he's Satoshi because of the "evidence" that he made a list of the addresses with 1.1 million btc, why doesn't he just cryptographically sign a message from the addresses he just presented and get over it? Is he really expecting people to believe he owns any old address he presents?

Even if he does sign a message, that doesn't prove anything if the wallets don't belong to Satoshi.
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Assuming that CSW has just pulled 16,000 keys from the blockchain (which he almost certainly has), what's the likelihood of at least one of the users who actually own one or more of those addresses still being active and being able to sign a message saying CSW is full of it?

In the event that even one of those addresses stood up and came with a signed message, it would be fun to see what would Craig's reaction would be and how would he plan his cover-up. It's a great event to speculate on, moreso the fact that that would most certainly dig his own grave once and for all.

But I don't think Craig Wright is lying this time. Dave Kleiman and Craig Wright could both be satoshi. It's admitted by both the parties that they were both involved in mining.

Knowing that most of the known early adopters have shifted interest, gone missing or have died ever since, anyone can claim that they have participated in the earliest mining days of bitcoin and come up with a multitude of excuses to not sign a message from an address which received the earliest known bitcoin rewards in existence. I'm pretty sure cryptographic proof is not enough for most of us here whose eyes and ears are on the case, but by providing one address for initial 'proof' can actually be substantial in gaining the trust of the community. After all, cryptographic proof can't be altered and cheated on unless of course if the address/private key has been obtained by physical means--and by that I mean violence.

Anyway, we have to wait until 3 February because it will be the final day for Craig wright to proved the proof to what he claims that 16000 bitcoin addresses he owns and fonder of bitcoins. so he can give fake statements to peoples but not in court because he knows that if the court finds he has given fake statements regarding that sure he will be at risk. but Craig wright still in the confined I can prove.

It'll be extended for a few months more, trust me. CSW has been the master of his own craft: delaying tactics for what, a year or so now?
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As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

I expected this but didn't think it could be that soon. Craig Wright is just wasting the entire world time regarding his false reasons why he is Satoshi. These addresses prove nothing since anyone can easily get addresses that contain huge amount of Bitcoins. The entire crypto space needs more these addresses to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.
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If he really had access to these coins he would have used it long ago as leverage in the hash wars, but no. He watched his precious BSV lost 70% value in timespan of a few months as his court case was progressing.

Craig is going to be bankrupt soon when there's no more appeals to make and they start knocking on his door demanding to pay Kleiman's family.
I feel sorry for those dumb fucks who are now buying BSV.
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Assuming that CSW has just pulled 16,000 keys from the blockchain (which he almost certainly has), what's the likelihood of at least one of the users who actually own one or more of those addresses still being active and being able to sign a message saying CSW is full of it?

Correct. He have came up with an answer that he has no full access to those addresses. So, it's the responsibility of the wallet owners to prove him wrong.
But I don't think Craig Wright is lying this time. Dave Kleiman and Craig Wright could both be satoshi. It's admitted by both the parties that they were both involved in mining.
legendary
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Anyway, we have to wait until 3 February because it will be the final day for Craig wright to proved the proof to what he claims that 16000 bitcoin addresses he owns and fonder of bitcoins. so he can give fake statements to peoples but not in court because he knows that if the court finds he has given fake statements regarding that sure he will be at risk. but Craig wright still in the confined I can prove.
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I know WIPO will not allow such shady evidence like that to grant the patent claim.
If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions
Lol. Craig is just applying for a patent claim by proving that he's Satoshi Nakamoto, founder of the Bitcoin. I don't think he'll go to jail because of fake patent claims since judges don't also even know what is the real identity of Satoshi. I know he'll be f'cked up once the legit Satoshi shows up with evidences that will grant the patent claim. CW will be at risk if it happens.
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