Craig Wright provided the list of addresses that contains 1.1 million btc - page 5.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2020, 11:47:26 AM

then what he will do, disappear and hide under a rock

It worked for McAfee. Or the QuadrigaCX founder who went to India and likely faked his own death to avoid the $190 million lawsuit he faced. I'm sure CSW is holding enough BSV to dump on his followers to fund whatever escape plan he is concocting.

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2020, 11:47:26 AM

Anyone with a minimum common sense will not dare Perjury as it is a serious offense in any jurisdiction.

Yeah, your mistake there is believing the CSW has any common sense.

Assuming that CSW has just pulled 16,000 keys from the blockchain (which he almost certainly has), what's the likelihood of at least one of the users who actually own one or more of those addresses still being active and being able to sign a message saying CSW is full of it?

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Quote from: bitmover on January 15, 2020, 10:58:10 AM

Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.

Earlier Wright had admitted that he don't have access to these coins (because he do not possess the private keys). According to him, the private keys are split in to multiple parts and held by multiple people. Wright was supposed to receive them in a "bounded courier", at some point of time in January 2020.

However, Wright is now claiming that he has indeed received the private keys through courier (as per his statement on 14th January to Federal District Judge Beth Bloom of South Florida). He has time until February 3rd to prove the same. Expect some crazy movements in the market until that date.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 15, 2020, 11:29:12 AM

CSW? The identity thief? Lie in court!? Surely not! Roll Eyes

Lets be realistic, how long he can get away lying in court, the verdict will come out in a year or two and then what he will do, disappear and hide under a rock Cheesy

. The lies in court are documented and his fate is sealed as you cannot run like that and dream that everything is fine.

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2020, 11:17:10 AM

Unfortunately it will take much longer than that. For all the things CSW isn't, he is good at spinning web upon web of lies that takes weeks or months for the courts to work through. Just when a deadline approaches, he pulls a new stunt (such as submitting 16,000 addresses which prove absolutely nothing) to delay things further.

The web of lies will not last longer, the verdict will be coming out within a year and he will face what he deserves if he lied as he cannot run around just like that for a long period of time. If the court is not able to come to a conclusion then they will appoint someone who is an expert and they will come to an verdict soon. Anyone with a minimum common sense will not dare Perjury as it is a serious offense in any jurisdiction. It is entertainment for the masses Cheesy

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Quote from: mk4 on January 15, 2020, 10:50:50 AM

Doesn't prove crap. Addresses, along with how much bitcoin are in them, are completely public anyway. Wouldn't be farfetched to think that they simply just checked the bitcoin rich list and just picked certain addresses.

And by the way, here's one of the addresses I own: 3M6UcBNGZAW1HRjiFDMRcY5aXFrQ4F9E1y

Definitely not Binance's cold wallet address. 100% mine, zero doubt at all.

Yep, I completely agree with this one. A friend of mine sent me this article today that says Craig's allegedly received the keys. According to the court's decision, he has until February 3, 2020 (so, like, 3 weeks) to unlock the wallet, as far as I understand. Now, I don't think I'll believe that Craig is Satoshi even if he opens that wallet. I could believe that Dave was Satoshi, but not this arrogant guy. However, it would make a big difference in the discussions of Craig and add significantly to his reputation, more or less establishing him as Satoshi Nakamoto. I doubt it's going to happen, but luckily we'll find out soon.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 15, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

That is not considered evidence. Anyone can provide similar information in front of the judge. And if he can sign a message with those addresses then maybe it will be passed. But I believe he will never do it because he doesn't own it, it's all a lie. The BSV will surely collapse within the next few days if the court asks him to sign messages like that.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2020, 11:17:10 AM

If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions

CSW? The identity thief? Lie in court!? Surely not! Roll Eyes

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2020, 11:17:10 AM

a few more days and we will see how the story unfolds.

Unfortunately it will take much longer than that. For all the things CSW isn't, he is good at spinning web upon web of lies that takes weeks or months for the courts to work through. Just when a deadline approaches, he pulls a new stunt (such as submitting 16,000 addresses which prove absolutely nothing) to delay things further.

Quote from: Linkkoin on January 15, 2020, 11:24:51 AM

It was more than enough to fuel enormous pump.

BSV shills aren't exactly the most intelligent people. They've had CSW lie to their faces for years and yet they still swallow whatever word salad he serves them next.

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Quote from: target on January 15, 2020, 11:13:30 AM

Did satoshi really have about 16,404 BTC addresses?

Hard to say.
There's no definitive evidence which early addresses were satoshi's.
It's safe to assume, though, that many of the addresses created in 2009 were his/hers.
With on the order of 80,000 addresses created in 2009 in total, the chance of any one single address being his/hers isn't actually very high.
The "guesstimate" of a million BTC being satoshi's comes from Sergio Demian Lerner's research.

And BTW: CSW is an imposter, fraud, identity thief and desecrator of Kleiman's grave.

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Quote from: bitmover on January 15, 2020, 10:58:10 AM

Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.

It was more than enough to fuel enormous pump.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on January 15, 2020, 10:57:19 AM

if he owned even a single output worth a Satoshi dated in early years i am sure he would have already shown in back when he was publicly ridiculed for trying to forge a signature...

If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions, lying in court is not a comical thing, everyone can sit behind a pseudo and tell what ever we like as there is no consequences in social media and if he is proven a lair then that alias will not be trusted further but you will not go behind bars but that is not the case with lying in court, it has serious consequences and a few more days and we will see how the story unfolds.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 15, 2020, 11:11:35 AM

I've heard on Twitter, that BSV is going to go a sort of "rollback" to an older codebase of BSV and probably some alterations here and there, for Craig Wright to be able to gain access to Satoshi's bitcoins or something.

Not satoshi's bitcoins, but satoshi's BSVs lol
That still don't prove nothing. He must prove to own satoshis btc, not bsvs.

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He's stalling. These 16,000 addresses prove absolutely nothing since anyone can compile a list of early address from the publicly viewable blockchain. However, it will take a while for the judge and other parties to examine a list of 16,000 addresses, giving CSW plenty of time to come up a reason as to why he was able to unlock the file, but only access the addresses and not the private keys.

Quote from: bitmover on January 15, 2020, 10:58:10 AM

Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.

Prediction: In amongst those 16,000 addresses, there will be one or two addresses he does own with a couple of bitcoin in them from the early days of bitcoin. He will sign a message from one of those or move a few sats and claim it to be proof of Satoshi. Then the BSV shills will pump this trash again.

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Did satoshi really have about 16,404 BTC addresses?

AFAIK there are only few of them that were identified which has a lot of BTC on it from the genesis.

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Wright's enigmatic Bitcoin fortune has been one of the biggest stories in the cryptocurrency space. If he does have access to his BTC fortune, that would be a major blow to numerous Wright critics and give another major push to the soaring Bitcoin SV (BSV) fork.

Amazing that they think Wright can provide proof which is why BSV pumped so much up to 100% yesterday. Its possible that BSV would plummet if he can't sign message to the wallet from the proven wallet of Satoshi.

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Quote from: bitmover on January 15, 2020, 10:58:10 AM

Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.

I've heard on Twitter, that BSV is going to go a sort of "rollback" to an older codebase of BSV and probably some alterations here and there, for Craig Wright to be able to gain access to Satoshi's bitcoins or something(edit for clarity: of course I meant BSV, the forked bitcoins). Haven't checked on this BSV "genesis upgrade" though so don't take my word for it; could possibly just BS.

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Quote from: bitmover on January 15, 2020, 10:58:10 AM

Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.

Not that I am a fan of Vitalik but he once said something which was more or less like this, There are two ways of proving something. A noisy way and an easy way. Craig always choose the noisy way because he really do not have anything to back him up.

To prove I am me, a known BTC address of me is enough or if I have a PGP finger print then that's enough. No one needs to see how much bitcoin I have.

How many more times we will talk about this BS from Craig?

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Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 15, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

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giong to a website like this: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html and copying a bunch of addresses from there into a text doesn't make that person Satoshi. anybody can do that since bitcoin blockchain is a public ledger

if he owned even a single output worth a Satoshi dated in early years i am sure he would have already shown in back when he was publicly ridiculed for trying to forge a signature...

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Doesn't prove crap. Addresses, along with how much bitcoin are in them, are completely public anyway. Wouldn't be farfetched to think that they simply just checked the bitcoin rich list and just picked certain addresses.

And by the way, here's one of the addresses I own: 3M6UcBNGZAW1HRjiFDMRcY5aXFrQ4F9E1y

Definitely not Binance's cold wallet address. 100% mine, zero doubt at all.

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As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

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