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This is all theory.  Spence looks like he is going to trigger the rematch clause so Crawford has to fight him next per the deal that was struck where the lower can trigger a rematch.  Worse yet if Spence wins then there could be a rubber match after that.  I think it's all just wild speculation and Crawford using his win to spark conversation about him.

That is exactly my point mate, Kovalev was already old at that time, that's why they challenge him for the LHW belt and won a hard fight. And after defeating Kovalev and win the belt, he went back to 168 lbs because they know that 175 lbs could be too much for Canelo at that point.

And they have proven it true, because again he challenge a taller guy at 175 lbs but this time, it was a young champion in Bivol and Canelo lost that fight clearly. And so far there is no rematch between the two, Canelo decided to stay at 168 lbs for now.

We'll have to wait and see, but Canelo has proven to be virtually unbeatable in his current division. This makes it highly unlikely that Charlo will upset him in their upcoming fight. It's possible that Charlo might consider moving up in weight classes after this bout, where he could potentially dominate in a heavier division.

In the current division, it appears that Canelo reigns supreme, and he seems to be eagerly waiting for a formidable challenge. One fighter who could provide that challenge is Crawford, who is very popular and might attempt to defeat Canelo to make history. The prospect of a Canelo vs. Crawford match is indeed intriguing, even if it means that Crawford would have to climb three weight divisions, which is a significant risk. However, Crawford is known for being a risk-taker, so we'll have to trust in his abilities.

It's all Bivol though and not on the judges hand, on the contrary they could have cheated Bivol in that fight as the scores is very close. But I guess they understood that they change the score to favor Canelo because that will be madness and there will be a controversy in it.
Will be interesting though what Charlo will look at 168 lbs, looking at the pictures doing their face-off, he is taller than Canelo.
So there is still room for him to make more weight to be able to make the Super middleweight class.
Although Canelo is stockier build and so his frame looks big as compare to Charlo.

I guess you can say that but you're just avoiding the point, Canelo's camp might've targeted Sergey Kovalev at that time because they believed that Canelo's fire is still too hot to handle by the other boxer that he will come across and just like what they have thought, Canelo successfully defeated Kovalev who at that time was a champion at LHW.

Age might've been a factor, but it doesn't really matter because at that time, Canelo was already unstoppable. And while having the same thought, they tried to approach LHW again because the new champion, who is Bivol, does have a record that doesn't really stand out compared to Kovalev who is a KO artist. That is why they thought that if they managed to upset Kovalev who got a much better rapsheet then there should be no problem against Bivol. And that's where they made a mistake.

And just like what is said, that doesn't matter right now because whether they like it or not, Canelo is already done in cementing his legacy as he already dominated and has been the undisputed champion and him being active now is just his move to collect as much money as he can while his name still makes some noise in the industry. With of course still taking precautions to avoid losses as much as possible during the process of collecting huge paychecks.

We can't really compare Kovalev and Bivol though, Kovalev is already old when he fought Canelo, and it's obvious that he was targeted by team Canelo because they know that even if it is a huge jump to 175 lbs for Canelo that time, their chances to defeat him is huge.

And then Bivol was young and has the volume punching that Canelo didn't expect. But Canelo feel proud about that fight and Bivol was almost got robbed by the results from the judges scorecard.

That's not really the reason because Canelo himself knows that whatever he do, may it be good or bad for his image, he will always have a critic and say something like if ever he defeats Crawford in the process. It's not that he is still not accustomed to what this industry do to a boxer and he doesn't even care about that because he came all this way to become one of the legends.

Furthermore, for me, the real case is that Canelo knows his present situation and that surgery he got might've put him in vain because he is now viewed as a trophy that anybody else can have. That is why he is making a stand and will not adjust to any weight class because if he's the target then let them come to his own division.

If you are talking about his recent fight with John Ryder, not sure if it is one side though, the fight was held in Mexico, but he didn't get an impressive win, as others have thought that Canelo is going to win by at least a knockout, and was surprised that Ryder lasted the whole fight. And there are fans saying that Canelo is losing his steps already and that's why Charlo is willing to fight him despite having to move up in 2 weight classes. And so Charlo is feeling very positive that he can dethroned Canelo.

Canelo's dominance in his recent fights has solidifid his reputation as one of the top pound- for-pound fighters. However, boxing is full of surprises, and fights can unfold in unexpected ways. Charlo's decision to move up and face he is a testament to his confidence and willingness to take on tough challenges. It's true that measuring sticks like Charlo's move to face Canelo can provide insights into the potential success of fighters who jump weight classes. And from weight classes varries their different style because depending on their weight classify their speed and strecngth.

Who knows right? anything is possible and uncertain until it happened.

That might be Canelo's downside in this day and age because as we've seen his recent fight against John Ryder, it was quite clear that his speed aren't the same but his power is still there, it's just that Ryder was quite clever and hard to take down with a knockout punch.

Anyway, I think that's what Charlo is hoping for, that Canelo is already old enough to defend his most beloved belts and division but since Canelo is eager to accept the fight, we can say as well that Canelo still have what it takes to defend what's his against someone who is trying to have what he has.

The first fight though is at 160 lbs and others thought that GGG really won that fight. And in the second fight, it was at 168 lbs, Canelo's best weight so it's har to beat him at super MW as no one has done it before.

GGG has one of the best jaw and so is Canelo. So in this fight, as I have said, very hard to break that as Charlo might not have the power to crack that Canelo's jaw unless Canelo is really getting older by now.

It's that if Charlo does Bivol's thing to more than one he will make him lose, because everyone believes in the Mexican, plus Charlo is a boxer who has grown up and seeing how he fights has good technique, I like how he defends himself when they try attack him a lot, because he has arms that he uses as columns, besides that his strength makes it not even stick to his face, he has a lot of strength in men and arms, for me they have the characteristics to win, of course I do not detract from a Canelo who always He is training and doing good things, he is a great boy, but I think that this time, so that he does not get a surprise, he should train at a higher level, because Bivol himself does not want to fight him, and the Russian has not lost any of his level, he has been in excellent shape and wants to win more belts, Canelo's clear mistake in his fights has been to trust himself, a boxer when he trusts in a heavy fight because his body feels that he has already given everything, he cannot give more because he decompensates and that goes into training, obviously his training against Bivol was at a lower level, that's why Bivol beat him and he did it forcefully, so much so that the boxer was somewhat surprised, however now with Charlo he shouldn't to get rid of it, Charlo is somewhat quiet for me, that's like a saying they say where I live: "God free me from the calm waters, I will free myself from the rough ones"

Jermell Charlo's Biggest Weapon (According to Canelo Alvarez)



Source: https://www.saddoboxing.com/64473-jermell-charlos-biggest-weapon-according-to-canelo-alvarez.html

Well, Canelo has studied his opponent very well, this is very good, because seeing his fights, and seeing his fighting style can help you see how his reaction when the boxer is in trouble, how he reacts when he is in a situation difficult, and although they are both at the same weight, category, I would dare to say that Charlo has enormous strength, each blow from him must hurt a lot if he manages to land that is what Canelo must take care of, because personally this boxer has a lot that gives and not everyone can do well from the fights without receiving some punishment, well unless it is a Crawford when he faced Spence, who looked fresher than a lettuce, but that was because of the degree of training so intense that Crawford had, which I think many boxers were taught to see how he was, I think Canelo Should be less active on social networks and more active in his training, so that he is not taken by surprise, that is something that We all think at some point that he doesn't go through the same Mistakes he had Against Bivol.

Canelo certainly holds several advantages, but it appears that his power might not be sufficient to overcome Bivol, who seems quite established in his current weight class. Similarly, if Crawford were to move up three weight divisions to face Canelo, many might predict a loss for him. However, boxing is renowned for its unpredictability, and surprises are always possible. It's worth noting that Crawford has already achieved significant accomplishments in his career, so he might not feel the need to prove anything further. Ultimately, the outcome of such matches remains uncertain, so let's see if Crawford would make history again.

At that time, it was so hard to support and bet against Canelo Alvarez because honestly, we've certainly known him far more compared to Dmitry Bivol who is just a champion on our eyes but wasn't really a threat because he doesn't have someone strong in his record that he already defeated. And so, at that time, we did expected that Canelo can defeat Bivol because that wasn't Canelo's first fight at 175 either as he already managed to defeat a boxer way back named Kovalev.

But then, we thought it wrong because Bivol proved to us that he's definitely a different boxer than Kovalev and can defend his belt successfully unlike the latter. In-fact at that time when he fought Canelo, Bivol was under heavy pressure because it was also the beginning of Russia-Ukraine war.

Both the players Charlo and Crawford had their equal opportunities to win the game.The players should try equal try to win the game.The game between Bivol and Canelo itself explain the exact situation now.The crowd opinion is Canelo,but the same was changed at the end.Bivol win the game with the support of the judges.I hope same will not happen now to Canelo.Even now the crowd opinion will be Canelo compared to the Crawford.When you compared the support of 100 people in the community,the seventy people will support Canelo.

The nearest boxer who gave Canelo the most hardships and struggles at 168 is none other than Golovkin, I mean Canelo sure do have the advantages required to be the winner but their fight always go to decision and even sparks some critics because some of their fights wasn't that clear that Canelo have won and he just cannot break Golovkin's jaw.

But for Charlo, it will be a mystery if he can also give that same hardships towards Canelo like GGG has done to the latter. Anyway, let's see it soon.

It will still be Canelo dominating this fight, Although he doesn't look good in his last fight as everyone expecting him to score a knockout victory. We've always talk about Crawford jumping 3 weight class and try to fight Canelo. But we also forget that Jermell is the champion at 154 lbs and so he is already jumping two weight class to face Canelo here. So that is already a good measuring stick to see if someone that really jump that high and face the champion and win (although is chances are very slim as we have thought). But still though, respect for Charlo for having that balls to challenge and fight Alvarez at his best weight class and if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't been defeated yeat at super Middleweight. His defeat to Bivol is him climbing at 175 lbs.

Yes, he does have a point because Charlo's chances are still a chance even if it's just slim. But Canelo is still Canelo, he might not be that bad, but I surely believe that he can still give a good fight and defend his belt successfully from a boxer who have jumped across weight classes just to face him. And yes, either way, Crawford will stick to what he stands and will likely face the winner of this fight.

Just to add though, I still don't think that Charlo can make a difference in a division that Canelo owned for years now. He might win some rounds but that's it, he's not getting any luckier than that. No offense.

Exactly, that's why Crawford is very wise to call the winner of this fight. If Charlo wins then he is also undisputed at 154 lbs and so Crawford can fight him as well and for me this is the fight that I want or be interested of.
Because this two has some beef going on, Crawford shouting at Charlo during Crawford's fight with Spence. And we all know that Charlo rooted for his training buddy in Spence but was destroyed by Crawford. So either winner will be a good matchup for Crawford.