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Click bait no way he jumps up that high quickly.  Bud would need to get acclimated in that weight class before he starts taking on the top dogs there.  I love buds game and lay in on him almost every fight but I wouldn't bet on him to win that one.  Think this is for publicity.
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

He said that during an interview; I don't think he is just messing with us. Canelo already said that he would only fight at 168, so it will force Crawford to move up because he thinks he could beat Canelo and become an undisputed champion again. In short, he wants to make history again. As a fan, I understand why he has to take that risky journey.

Yes, Crawford wanted to show greatness and become legendary. And with his biggest win against Spence, I will not be surprised if he wanted to go up in weight and fight Canelo.
But as what we have been discussing, it could be dangerous for him to go up 2 weight classes and he could be in a situation wherein he thought that he can beat Canelo and challenging him in his best weight class. But it could be a rude awakening if the suddenly taste the power of a natural bigger guy than him and the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

He said that during an interview; I don't think he is just messing with us. Canelo already said that he would only fight at 168, so it will force Crawford to move up because he thinks he could beat Canelo and become an undisputed champion again. In short, he wants to make history again. As a fan, I understand why he has to take that risky journey.
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.

Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
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Crawford vs Canelo-Charlo
I've seen the news about the Crawford vs Canelo challenge, it looks like Crawford is very ambitious to beat Canelo and box, but I often watch boxing Crawford or Canelo are both really good bettors, but I often see their opponents talk a lot of nonsense and ambition, will end up losing.

I've read some of the comments from Crawford on social media towards Canelo.
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"Ability always pays, not size, remember that," says Crawford,

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Canelo is not big, I'm not scared at all, although he is muscular.

And many other words spoken by Crawford to challenge Canelo, I think Crawford underestimated Canelo.

I have a hunch for Crawford can't jump 3 classes, he will be eliminated in the ring for the fight between Crawford vs Canelo.

I can't blame him for being gutsy and having that much confident because he is already a 2x undisputed champion now which makes him think even more that he can still add more to that record to make it more unbreakable. But yes, jumping towards three weight classes is a different discussion and Crawford haven't even know what it's like to fight at 154, what more if he will got 168 directly where he's more likely vulnerable against a guy like Canelo who's been around that weight class and dominating it for a couple of years now.

What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
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Crawford vs Canelo-Charlo
I've seen the news about the Crawford vs Canelo challenge, it looks like Crawford is very ambitious to beat Canelo and box, but I often watch boxing Crawford or Canelo are both really good bettors, but I often see their opponents talk a lot of nonsense and ambition, will end up losing.

I've read some of the comments from Crawford on social media towards Canelo.
For example:
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"Ability always pays, not size, remember that," says Crawford,

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Canelo is not big, I'm not scared at all, although he is muscular.

And many other words spoken by Crawford to challenge Canelo, I think Crawford underestimated Canelo.

I have a hunch for Crawford can't jump 3 classes, he will be eliminated in the ring for the fight between Crawford vs Canelo.
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The possible one is the Crawford - Canelo than the Crawford - Charlo fight, Canelo is still at the peak of his career and Charlo is no Bivol to impose his will against Canelo, he is not good with counterpunches just like what Mayweather and Bivol did to Canelo, so it's possible that next year we'll have Crawford - Canelo.

Everything depends on the two guys who want to make it happen, Canelo is a free agent he can deal with all promotions and Crawford is not getting younger he needs more money fight and legacy fight and the Canelo fight is much bigger than the Spence fight.

There will be more speculations about this fight after Canelo beat Charlo.
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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.

Well, Canelo are most likely going to win against Charlo, but who knows - so I'm still taking the scenario of Canelo vs Crawford lol.
The weight differences are the thing that could hold up this fight to happen though. Canelo needs to come down and Terrence needs to come up a huge weight, both are risky for them. It could be draining for Canelo and something for Crawford that would affect his body conditioning and performance. Though nothing is impossible if they agree at a catch weight just because the fans are craving for it, then I guess a massive money involvement could make things possible.

Canelo stresses that he can't no longer make weight below 168 lbs, so it's going to be in the ball on Crawford to go up in weight in 3 weight classes if he wanted to have a fight with Canelo.

And it was really Crawford who are going to test himself here, to be as great as Pacquiao. And I heard one boxing analyst says that if Crawford goes up and fight Canelo and beat him, he will be greater than Floyd but it is up for debate.

Crawford might be willing to take that risk and move up just to face Canelo. According to him, Canelo will likely beat Charlo, as Canelo is simply on a different level. So, he underestimates Charlo and considers himself a worthy opponent for Canelo. If Crawford is looking to add more achievements to his career, he would want to become undisputed once again by defeating Canelo. Based on records, there hasn't been a boxer who has beaten Canelo in his favored weight class.

I'm more inclined that Crawford indeed have more chances against Canelo compared to Charlo against the latter, well it's doesn't mean that I underestimate Charlo but it's just hard not to agree with Crawford here when in-fact it is more clearer and evident that he got more skills to put up against Canelo. By the way, he's also right that Charlo is more likely to lose rather than the other way around mainly in this scenario that Canelo is not yet on the sunset of his career.
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A Crawford - Canelo fight is a legacy fight for both fighters but they need to settle their responsibility on the contracts they signed, Crawford will have to deal with Spence first to win again then his promotion can have a talk with Canelo's promotion for a deal, this could happen in the middle of next year, once these two fighters hurdle their respective opponents they will have a busy year ahead.

Wait, why does he have to deal with Spence again? Was there a rematch clause in their fight? I'm just curious because I haven't been reading credible sources stating that a rematch is going to happen. Well, if you were to ask me, even if there's a rematch clause, I suggest that Spence should not activate it, as he looked like an amateur during their big fight.
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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.

Well, Canelo are most likely going to win against Charlo, but who knows - so I'm still taking the scenario of Canelo vs Crawford lol.
The weight differences are the thing that could hold up this fight to happen though. Canelo needs to come down and Terrence needs to come up a huge weight, both are risky for them. It could be draining for Canelo and something for Crawford that would affect his body conditioning and performance. Though nothing is impossible if they agree at a catch weight just because the fans are craving for it, then I guess a massive money involvement could make things possible.

Canelo stresses that he can't no longer make weight below 168 lbs, so it's going to be in the ball on Crawford to go up in weight in 3 weight classes if he wanted to have a fight with Canelo.

And it was really Crawford who are going to test himself here, to be as great as Pacquiao. And I heard one boxing analyst says that if Crawford goes up and fight Canelo and beat him, he will be greater than Floyd but it is up for debate.

Crawford might be willing to take that risk and move up just to face Canelo. According to him, Canelo will likely beat Charlo, as Canelo is simply on a different level. So, he underestimates Charlo and considers himself a worthy opponent for Canelo. If Crawford is looking to add more achievements to his career, he would want to become undisputed once again by defeating Canelo. Based on records, there hasn't been a boxer who has beaten Canelo in his favored weight class.
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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.


It's too early for this, for all, we know the fight turns out to be close or draw, and because of this there could be a rematch, and besides Spence triggers the rematch clause so Terrence should first commit to his rematch against Spence, Spence is serious to get back against Crawford and he promises to be a better fighter,  maybe they are going to do it in the higher division, but Crawford cannot just turn his back to the rematch because it's stipulated on the contract.

A Crawford - Canelo fight is a legacy fight for both fighters but they need to settle their responsibility on the contracts they signed, Crawford will have to deal with Spence first to win again then his promotion can have a talk with Canelo's promotion for a deal, this could happen in the middle of next year, once these two fighters hurdle their respective opponents they will have a busy year ahead.

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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.

Well, Canelo are most likely going to win against Charlo, but who knows - so I'm still taking the scenario of Canelo vs Crawford lol.
The weight differences are the thing that could hold up this fight to happen though. Canelo needs to come down and Terrence needs to come up a huge weight, both are risky for them. It could be draining for Canelo and something for Crawford that would affect his body conditioning and performance. Though nothing is impossible if they agree at a catch weight just because the fans are craving for it, then I guess a massive money involvement could make things possible.

Canelo stresses that he can't no longer make weight below 168 lbs, so it's going to be in the ball on Crawford to go up in weight in 3 weight classes if he wanted to have a fight with Canelo.

And it was really Crawford who are going to test himself here, to be as great as Pacquiao. And I heard one boxing analyst says that if Crawford goes up and fight Canelo and beat him, he will be greater than Floyd but it is up for debate.
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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.

Well, Canelo are most likely going to win against Charlo, but who knows - so I'm still taking the scenario of Canelo vs Crawford lol.
The weight differences are the thing that could hold up this fight to happen though. Canelo needs to come down and Terrence needs to come up a huge weight, both are risky for them. It could be draining for Canelo and something for Crawford that would affect his body conditioning and performance. Though nothing is impossible if they agree at a catch weight just because the fans are craving for it, then I guess a massive money involvement could make things possible.
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Crawford counter is his main weapon. I think he will problem on higher division if his punches doesn't big guys while he is hurt by the power of boxer like Canelo.
It's going to be a huge challenge for him, but he is eager to prove his greatness. So, let's give him a chance. Canelo is a strong boxer; he once moved up after winning the undisputed championship, but he lost to Bivol. This was probably because he wasn't able to carry his power and speed. The same thing could happen to Crawford. However, that's the downside. But we never know what's going to happen. One thing is sure: this fight is going to attract the interest of the boxing community.
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

And addition to that, it's too early to speculate, I might as well then wish for Charlo to win against Canelo if he is going to fight Crawford next.
But then again, if Canelo wins, this is going to be a big jump for Crawford at 168 lbs, and as you have said, he needs to fine tune his body at this extra weight as I don't believed that he is walking about that weight even off season, 154 lbs seems to be right though for Crawford.
And even if Charlo losses then he goes back to 154 lbs and governing bodies give him back his belt, then I will rather see that fight as they have a beef already.

I remember that he mention that he will change weight class gradually until he reach the division which he can fight Canelo comfortably. This is same process of Pacman when he dominates multiple divisions. Crawford is strong on his division but we know that there's a lot of boxer that destroy their career for aiming higher division while their body is not designed for that specific weight.

Crawford counter is his main weapon. I think he will problem on higher division if his punches doesn't big guys while he is hurt by the power of boxer like Canelo.

I guess he can do that in due time, but for the meantime, he have to face his current situation where he needs to get accustomed at 154 first because that is his first plan after unifying all the belts at 147 pounds, it was just changed a little bit after Charlo made his own move towards Canelo.
I know he can still dominate that weight class but it's much too soon for him to make that climb because aside from that fact that it's risky, that road is still relatively unknown for him.
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.
He mentioned that Canelo's height is only 5′ 8″, which means he isn't exceptionally tall. Similarly, Crawford is also 5′ 8″. Considering this, there's potential for a compelling matchup between the two if Crawford undergoes effective training to develop his physique. While financial gain is undoubtedly a top priority for renowned boxers nowadays, let's admit it, we also have a strong desire to witness a showdown between Canelo and Crawford before either of them considers retiring.

Being small in boxing isn't about height but rather it's the weight does matter.

Currently, Crawford is too small for Canelo and I called this a mismatch. I agree, if that fight between Canelo and Crawford happened instead 2 years from now, Crawford might already catch up with Canelo with weight. I don't know what's the reason for Crawford changing his mind as before he ruled out fighting at over 154 lbs as he knows it's risky for him.

Anyways, the fight is just a speculation and we don't know what will happen next. What if Jermell won instead? There will be a change right away in the supposed roadmap of these boxers. For now, after being an undisputed champion, Crawford should think twice before risking another fight on his career.

I don't want to jump to conclusions either, as anything can happen. Just like when Pacman moved up in weight and was doubted, he ended up dominating. So, in this fight, the same unpredictability applies. Based on interviews, Crawford appears very confident that he can win. What's interesting is that people's speculations are evenly split. It's understandable since both fighters are great and still in their prime. Their upcoming match in the ring is sure to be a fireworks show.

The most exciting aspect is that both fighters stand to earn an immense amount of money, given that this fight is expected to be a blockbuster.
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

And addition to that, it's too early to speculate, I might as well then wish for Charlo to win against Canelo if he is going to fight Crawford next.
But then again, if Canelo wins, this is going to be a big jump for Crawford at 168 lbs, and as you have said, he needs to fine tune his body at this extra weight as I don't believed that he is walking about that weight even off season, 154 lbs seems to be right though for Crawford.
And even if Charlo losses then he goes back to 154 lbs and governing bodies give him back his belt, then I will rather see that fight as they have a beef already.

I remember that he mention that he will change weight class gradually until he reach the division which he can fight Canelo comfortably. This is same process of Pacman when he dominates multiple divisions. Crawford is strong on his division but we know that there's a lot of boxer that destroy their career for aiming higher division while their body is not designed for that specific weight.

Crawford counter is his main weapon. I think he will problem on higher division if his punches doesn't big guys while he is hurt by the power of boxer like Canelo.
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He needs to prove himself and have some warm-up fight first before fighting these big shots in their weight division because he needs to be compatible first at that weight but that only goes for common boxers because as for Crawford, he can just simply increase his weight and learn more about controlling his punches and gain some speed in the training and he is good to fight either of this two. I remember Manny Pacquiao when he fought Antonio Margarito, he didn't need some warm-up fight and he just simply and successfully beat the big guy in his comfortable weight zone.
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

And addition to that, it's too early to speculate, I might as well then wish for Charlo to win against Canelo if he is going to fight Crawford next.
But then again, if Canelo wins, this is going to be a big jump for Crawford at 168 lbs, and as you have said, he needs to fine tune his body at this extra weight as I don't believed that he is walking about that weight even off season, 154 lbs seems to be right though for Crawford.
And even if Charlo losses then he goes back to 154 lbs and governing bodies give him back his belt, then I will rather see that fight as they have a beef already.

I think that's why we are here in this very discussion in the first place, to discuss and speculate who would be the victor between the mentioned boxers.

In line with that, I think Crawford should make his debut at 154 first while Charlo and Canelo are still busy for their preparation before testing each other and to test if his body can still withstand any additional weights because jumping right away from 147 to 168 is quite a long-haul flight where it will leave Crawford so tired and slow.

About your last phrase, Charlo is no longer the undisputed champion at 154 anymore because in the same day of his fight against Canelo, he will be stripped of his WBO belt and Tim Tszyu will have that instead of his current belt, the interim champion.
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