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Quote from: Haunebu on April 21, 2019, 02:00:32 AM

I disagree. Shikhar Dhawan, MSD, Jadhav etc are quite consistent and the manner in which they played during the Australian and New Zealand sides proves that. They have consistently been scoring decent scores in the IPL too(Small factor).

There is a reason why the current Indian team is dominating the ODI and test rankings at present.

When was the last time MSD scored a century in an ODI match? If I am not wrong, that was almost three years back. And recently, a lot of people have criticized him for scoring slowly during the final overs. Talking about Shikhar Dhawan, he was a complete failure during the recent ODI series against Australia (apart from one match where he scored a century).

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What a start form KKR but they are loss two wickets within the powerplay, I think that the KKR will be going to give Big Target to SH so my prediction will be more than 180 runs for KKR.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2019, 12:59:52 PM

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Quote from: RamBahadur.Gurung on April 20, 2019, 08:27:46 AM

The inclusion of Warner and Smith will strengthen the Aussies. Warner has been in top form during this IPL season. One advantage for Australia is that their bowlers are perfectly suited for the English conditions. Mark my words, I think that an Aussie bowler will be the top wicket taker during this world cup. Can be Pat Cummins, or it can be Mitchell Starc.

Completely possible. Starc and Cummins are amazing bowlers, but I am expecting Bumrah to be the leading wicket taker during this edition of the World cup due to his pristine form at present and his amazing death bowling ability.

Also, many Indians like Kohli have also been in top form during this IPL season though that might not translate to great form during the World cup.

I don't have much faith in Indian batsmen other than Kohli. Only Kohli has the ability to perform well outside the South Asian region. As usual, the Indian batting will be completely dependent on him. Others like KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma are extremely inconsistent. Regarding the bowling, both Bumra and Shami has the capability to perform well this time.

I disagree. Shikhar Dhawan, MSD, Jadhav etc are quite consistent and the manner in which they played during the Australian and New Zealand sides proves that. They have consistently been scoring decent scores in the IPL too(Small factor).

There is a reason why the current Indian team is dominating the ODI and test rankings at present.

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I don't have much faith in Indian batsmen other than Kohli. Only Kohli has the ability to perform well outside the South Asian region. As usual, the Indian batting will be completely dependent on him. Others like KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma are extremely inconsistent. Regarding the bowling, both Bumra and Shami has the capability to perform well this time.

It is no doubt that the batting is solely dependent on Kohli to perform all the time and the main players in the team who could perform consistently with the bat are Kohli and Dhoni, the rest of the team members lack consistency and the bowling unit is a good one with Bumrah and Shami leading the bowling with two spinners and i am not sure whether they will be playing both the spinners in English conditions, it all depends upon the pitch condition i guess.

During the 1999 world cup, most of the teams had just one spinner in their playing XI. And some of the teams went with an all-pace attack, with just part-time spinners in the final XI. But now the conditions have changed, and the pitches are tailor made to suit the batsmen. Under such conditions, spinners may be preferred to slow down the scoring rate.

This is going to create some problem for the Afghanistan side. If they include Rashid Khan, then they need to rest Mujib ur Rahman.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 20, 2019, 05:32:53 AM

Quote from: vella85 on April 19, 2019, 05:30:46 PM

Are you sure? Australia just beat India coming from 2-0 down playing in India and you feel that the current Australian team isn't as strong. Also let me remind you that the Australian team that did beat India on home soil didn't have Warner or Smith playing so I'm not sure what you are saying about not being as strong as previous teams. From the last World Cup, Australia don't have Clarke, Haddin, Johnson, Watson and Faulkner. Apart from that its basically the same team and Australia have replace these players with good players that have shown that they can perform on the world stage. No team is ever the same as it goes for India, England and all the other teams playing so that is why I never compare the teams to previous teams as the Australia has shown that they can match it with the best and beat the best.

You do realize that India was also experimenting with its players during the 3-2 series just like Australia, don't you? That was obviously not the best version of the Indian team and the same applied to Australia as well.

I feel like they might reach the semis and get knocked out while India or England or both will make it to the finals. Guess we just need to agree to disagree.

Yes I do know that but for you to stay the Australian team isn't as strong as previous teams is wrong. This current team has shown that they can match it with the best and like I said the players that are no longer playing have been replaced with good players which are just as good as the previous players. I think we will agree to disagree.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2019, 12:59:52 PM

I don't have much faith in Indian batsmen other than Kohli. Only Kohli has the ability to perform well outside the South Asian region. As usual, the Indian batting will be completely dependent on him. Others like KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma are extremely inconsistent. Regarding the bowling, both Bumra and Shami has the capability to perform well this time.

It is no doubt that the batting is solely dependent on Kohli to perform all the time and the main players in the team who could perform consistently with the bat are Kohli and Dhoni, the rest of the team members lack consistency and the bowling unit is a good one with Bumrah and Shami leading the bowling with two spinners and i am not sure whether they will be playing both the spinners in English conditions, it all depends upon the pitch condition i guess.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 20, 2019, 11:26:45 AM

Quote from: RamBahadur.Gurung on April 20, 2019, 08:27:46 AM

The inclusion of Warner and Smith will strengthen the Aussies. Warner has been in top form during this IPL season. One advantage for Australia is that their bowlers are perfectly suited for the English conditions. Mark my words, I think that an Aussie bowler will be the top wicket taker during this world cup. Can be Pat Cummins, or it can be Mitchell Starc.

Completely possible. Starc and Cummins are amazing bowlers, but I am expecting Bumrah to be the leading wicket taker during this edition of the World cup due to his pristine form at present and his amazing death bowling ability.

Also, many Indians like Kohli have also been in top form during this IPL season though that might not translate to great form during the World cup.

I don't have much faith in Indian batsmen other than Kohli. Only Kohli has the ability to perform well outside the South Asian region. As usual, the Indian batting will be completely dependent on him. Others like KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma are extremely inconsistent. Regarding the bowling, both Bumra and Shami has the capability to perform well this time.

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Quote from: RamBahadur.Gurung on April 20, 2019, 08:27:46 AM

The inclusion of Warner and Smith will strengthen the Aussies. Warner has been in top form during this IPL season. One advantage for Australia is that their bowlers are perfectly suited for the English conditions. Mark my words, I think that an Aussie bowler will be the top wicket taker during this world cup. Can be Pat Cummins, or it can be Mitchell Starc.

Completely possible. Starc and Cummins are amazing bowlers, but I am expecting Bumrah to be the leading wicket taker during this edition of the World cup due to his pristine form at present and his amazing death bowling ability.

Also, many Indians like Kohli have also been in top form during this IPL season though that might not translate to great form during the World cup.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:14 PM

The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

I disagree. I strongly feel that England and India are the teams to beat this time around. The current Australian lineup is not as strong as previous lineups even with the inclusion of Warner and Smith in my opinion.

The inclusion of Warner and Smith will strengthen the Aussies. Warner has been in top form during this IPL season. One advantage for Australia is that their bowlers are perfectly suited for the English conditions. Mark my words, I think that an Aussie bowler will be the top wicket taker during this world cup. Can be Pat Cummins, or it can be Mitchell Starc.

Why even England and New Zealand are also having good bowlers who can beat them, in cricket you cannot say on the basis of conditions. Even Smith today performed well after being captain for RR and won the match for them. So it will really strength their chances of winning world cup more.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 18, 2019, 11:49:59 AM

Quote from: vella85 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:14 PM

The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

I disagree. I strongly feel that England and India are the teams to beat this time around. The current Australian lineup is not as strong as previous lineups even with the inclusion of Warner and Smith in my opinion.

The inclusion of Warner and Smith will strengthen the Aussies. Warner has been in top form during this IPL season. One advantage for Australia is that their bowlers are perfectly suited for the English conditions. Mark my words, I think that an Aussie bowler will be the top wicket taker during this world cup. Can be Pat Cummins, or it can be Mitchell Starc.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 19, 2019, 05:30:46 PM

Are you sure? Australia just beat India coming from 2-0 down playing in India and you feel that the current Australian team isn't as strong. Also let me remind you that the Australian team that did beat India on home soil didn't have Warner or Smith playing so I'm not sure what you are saying about not being as strong as previous teams. From the last World Cup, Australia don't have Clarke, Haddin, Johnson, Watson and Faulkner. Apart from that its basically the same team and Australia have replace these players with good players that have shown that they can perform on the world stage. No team is ever the same as it goes for India, England and all the other teams playing so that is why I never compare the teams to previous teams as the Australia has shown that they can match it with the best and beat the best.

You do realize that India was also experimenting with its players during the 3-2 series just like Australia, don't you? That was obviously not the best version of the Indian team and the same applied to Australia as well.

I feel like they might reach the semis and get knocked out while India or England or both will make it to the finals. Guess we just need to agree to disagree.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 18, 2019, 11:49:59 AM

Quote from: vella85 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:14 PM

The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

I disagree. I strongly feel that England and India are the teams to beat this time around. The current Australian lineup is not as strong as previous lineups even with the inclusion of Warner and Smith in my opinion.

Are you sure? Australia just beat India coming from 2-0 down playing in India and you feel that the current Australian team isn't as strong. Also let me remind you that the Australian team that did beat India on home soil didn't have Warner or Smith playing so I'm not sure what you are saying about not being as strong as previous teams. From the last World Cup, Australia don't have Clarke, Haddin, Johnson, Watson and Faulkner. Apart from that its basically the same team and Australia have replace these players with good players that have shown that they can perform on the world stage. No team is ever the same as it goes for India, England and all the other teams playing so that is why I never compare the teams to previous teams as the Australia has shown that they can match it with the best and beat the best.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:14 PM

The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

I disagree. I strongly feel that England and India are the teams to beat this time around. The current Australian lineup is not as strong as previous lineups even with the inclusion of Warner and Smith in my opinion.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:14 PM

The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

Hey there’s nothing surprising about those two being included for the World Cup, they were called to Dubai earlier in the year to gel with the team. I’ll second that Australia have a very strong team, and both of them are getting match practice in IPL too. Also I feel Australia and England are the team to beat in the World Cup, so it’ll be interesting if these two make it to the finals.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:14 PM

The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

Vella you might wanna join world cup discussion in another thread, which is dedicated for world cup 2019.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2019-cricket-world-cup-discussion-analysis-5084515

There are already discussions going on regarding world cup (sometimes heated arguments and accusations) it's fun tho.. lol , so far Indian squad related discussions taking over the thread. You are most welcome to join the discussion and can post your analysis for Oz team.

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The Australia team has been named for the World Cup and guess what? Smith and Warner have been named in the team which is great to see. On paper Australia have a strong line up that will be tough to beat. They would have to be favourite or second favourite to win the World Cup after Smith and Warner being named. As we know they haven't had much match practice so I'm expecting both players to play in all of Australia's warm up matches.

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Honestly, why are everyone in this thread concerned about the D/L system all of a sudden? This system has existed for ages and it has its share of advantages and disadvantages(Advantages outweigh the disadvantages) and it won't be abolished anytime soon.

However, I would love to see an improvement(D/L 2.0) or a completely new system since the ICC have the budget to do so.

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Duckworth Lewis method was invented after carefully analyzing the outcomes of thousands of matches. So I wouldn't say that the method was wrong. And I don't understand why you think that the UAE was ahead. Two set batsmen were playing when bad light stopped play (PJ Moor at 45, and Chakabva at 78), and at that point they needed 25 runs to win from 3 overs (with 6 wickets in hand).

I can very well tell that the method is not perfect, i will give you a perfect example about a match between South Africa and England in 1992 world cup, South Africa needed 22 runs to win from 13 balls and when the rain interrupted and the score was adjusted using Duckworth Lewis method and so South Africa needed to win the same runs in 1 ball, how can you claim that as a fair calculation and not a wrong method.
I never said UAE was ahead, i just said they had the opportunity to upset them simply because of DLS method.

You are wrong on multiple fronts. Back in 1992, Duckworth Lewis was not the method used for determining the outcome of the rain affected matches. Back then there was a different method being used by the ICC, and the D/L method was first used by the ICC in 1999. As a matter of fact, Frank Duckworth and Tony Lewis came up with the new method inspired by the outcome of the 1992 match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 16, 2019, 03:15:09 AM

And by the way how many here know that Duckworth Lewis does not have any role in Red Ball cricket. Raise a hand quickly ladies Cheesy

Well before that can you please explain the difference of red ball and white ball. The only thing I know is that for a D/N match or N match we use white ball.

By the way, I not a lady LOL

Side note: I have never seen/known in a test match to use Duckworth Lewis because they have a draw result :-P

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 15, 2019, 08:54:09 AM

Can you define a football match result or tennis or any other sports? Then why cricket came with this weird calculation?

Because Shortest format of cricket which is 20-20 lasts a minimum of 4 hours, 8-10 hours for ODI, that's not the case with other sports and Rain doesn't stop other sport's gameplay much.

I will leave a wise man quote here regarding the D/L method.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 16, 2019, 03:31:29 AM

Well before that can you please explain the difference of red ball and white ball. The only thing I know is that for a D/N match or N match we use white ball.

There is a very interesting story and logical reason behind all this white-red ball saga, we need to go back to 70-80s for this. will update in a new post soon. or read about "Kerry packer" he was the main reason who changed everything in cricket from the ball, D/N, Dress code etc etc.

After reading about him and his work you will see how hypocritic our cricket world is ( foreign cricketers legends who hates the IPL)

And Bhai I know Cheesy

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