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legendary
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Anyways, when should I lock this thread? Tomorrow?

Asap for an apparent reason, guess will hang out again in the old thread? Ashes is scheduled next month, and chances are Royce going to open betting thread for the Ashes ( not sure yet). Your participation in discussion is always welcome. We already have tiny community, it's better to stick with each other Tongue

Good point.

I'm locking this thread now.

I am English but to be honest I’m not a cricket fan. However I watched the final & tbh it was brilliant. If you ever needed an advert for cricket then yesterday was it. Absolutely thrilling, especially the last couple of hours of play.

Well, enjoy the cup! Wink
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In my opinion, the match is a draw and I despise these pathetic ICC rules where the winner is decided based on boundaries and sixes. Entertaining yet controversial final overall.
On a funny note, England is the home land of cricket and the first world cup was played in England and till now England never won a world cup and the rules they made finally gave them the world cup  Cheesy. The present England one day team is the best they ever had historically and if the present team could not win a world cup, then they will never win another one, another funny thing is that the two teams that played in the finals, England and New Zealand were defeated by Pakistan in the group stages and Pakistan missed out the semi final spot because of run rate and with the help of rain Grin.

I am English but to be honest I’m not a cricket fan. However I watched the final & tbh it was brilliant. If you ever needed an advert for cricket then yesterday was it. Absolutely thrilling, especially the last couple of hours of play.
There is no doubt that it was a thrilling final as the match was a tie even in the super over and there was another close match which is equally interesting between Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic which was the longest final and that too decided in a tie breaker.
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I am English but to be honest I’m not a cricket fan. However I watched the final & tbh it was brilliant. If you ever needed an advert for cricket then yesterday was it. Absolutely thrilling, especially the last couple of hours of play.
Truly this was one of best final we watch ever because too much drama and thrill but honestly we can say New Zealand have one hand on trophy and they drop this just because of these type games I love cricket.
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By reading the comments over social media and here, i feel majority of the people including me wished NZ should have won the final.
Yes, losing less wickets should be the criteria but then everything was decided before the match and had NZ hit more boundaries they could have been declared the winners.

Yes.. the rules were written before the tournament began. But I have a feeling that the ICC never cared much to study them, as they thought that these rules will never be used. I talked to a lot of my friends, and I can honestly tell you that more than 80% of them were upset at the way the winners were chosen. In general, the feeling is that England stole the trophy and NZ deserved it more than ENG.
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I am English but to be honest I’m not a cricket fan. However I watched the final & tbh it was brilliant. If you ever needed an advert for cricket then yesterday was it. Absolutely thrilling, especially the last couple of hours of play.
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There's a set of rules that define how the winner would be decided. And the rules were made even before the start of the tournament.
And as of fair, number of boundaries is a much more better criteria for announcing the winner rather than a coin toss.

A toss may be a bad idea to decide the winner. But a better idea would have been to share the trophy between the two teams. It would have been a much better option, when compared to all the controversy and heartburn we had after the super-over. And in my opinion, giving preference to boundaries, rather than the wickets make no sense at all.

I feel the same way. Wickets should be prioritized, instead of boundaries. If the team A is not scoring boundaries and scoring the same amount of runs as the other team B, then seriously, team A has succeeded in playing more strategically if compared with team B. This is how I view this scenario.

By reading the comments over social media and here, i feel majority of the people including me wished NZ should have won the final.
Yes, losing less wickets should be the criteria but then everything was decided before the match and had NZ hit more boundaries they could have been declared the winners.
legendary
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There's a set of rules that define how the winner would be decided. And the rules were made even before the start of the tournament.
And as of fair, number of boundaries is a much more better criteria for announcing the winner rather than a coin toss.

A toss may be a bad idea to decide the winner. But a better idea would have been to share the trophy between the two teams. It would have been a much better option, when compared to all the controversy and heartburn we had after the super-over. And in my opinion, giving preference to boundaries, rather than the wickets make no sense at all.

I feel the same way. Wickets should be prioritized, instead of boundaries. If the team A is not scoring boundaries and scoring the same amount of runs as the other team B, then seriously, team A has succeeded in playing more strategically if compared with team B. This is how I view this scenario.
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There's a set of rules that define how the winner would be decided. And the rules were made even before the start of the tournament.
And as of fair, number of boundaries is a much more better criteria for announcing the winner rather than a coin toss.

A toss may be a bad idea to decide the winner. But a better idea would have been to share the trophy between the two teams. It would have been a much better option, when compared to all the controversy and heartburn we had after the super-over. And in my opinion, giving preference to boundaries, rather than the wickets make no sense at all.
legendary
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WTF:

"Questions are being raised as to why 6 but not 5 runs were awarded for the overthrow."

Should New Zealand, not England have won World Cup 2019?

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket-world-cup-2019/story/world-cup-2019-final-england-vs-new-zealand-ben-stokes-overthrow-6-runs-super-over-kane-williamson-lords-1569177-2019-07-15
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For tennis lovers only, Would you believe that yesterday there was Wimbledon final between Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer  and that too was taking place in England at the same time. Whats is more coincidence that final also went beyond the normal  and was won at 13:12 in the tie breaker. Of course we missed that historic match because of the cricket final but its worth watching the highlights at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnLdAeSXZv0
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I too don't like that rule but you can't say England is not a clear winner. These things are part of the game and should improve these rules for future matches.
These rules are not accepted, however England won the Match. No doubt that it was the most glorious match that I've ever seen. We will wait for the next world cup and hopefully will be modified these weird types of rules.

There's a set of rules that define how the winner would be decided. And the rules were made even before the start of the tournament.
And as of fair, number of boundaries is a much more better criteria for announcing the winner rather than a coin toss.
legendary
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Bad luck NZ. The scores still remain same in Super over too and England is the winner.
Just before the super over, NZ could have won it in the match if that bowl was not gone to boundary on the throw by hitting the bat.
Luck basically transferred from New Zealand to England since New Zealand very quite lucky reaching the finals of this World Cup. The Stokes catch, overthrow hitting his bat etc show how lucky England were towards the end.

In my opinion, the match is a draw and I despise these pathetic ICC rules where the winner is decided based on boundaries and sixes. Entertaining yet controversial final overall.

Although England have won the World cup but they could not call them clear winners as the match and the Super over both ended on tie. Choosing a winner on the basis of boundaries is not fair. Maybe it could go to another super over to decide.  Roll Eyes
NZ will remember this world cup for a long time and think if luck could be on their side.

This rule is not set at the last minute because both teams have agreed on these terms before the match start and they never expected match can end up like this way.

I too don't like that rule but you can't say England is not a clear winner. These things are part of the game and should improve these rules for future matches.

NZ was unlucky yesterday because in 50th over they over through one ball and gave ways 6 runs was their mistake otherwise they would have won this match without super over.
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Bad luck NZ. The scores still remain same in Super over too and England is the winner.
Just before the super over, NZ could have won it in the match if that bowl was not gone to boundary on the throw by hitting the bat.
Luck basically transferred from New Zealand to England since New Zealand very quite lucky reaching the finals of this World Cup. The Stokes catch, overthrow hitting his bat etc show how lucky England were towards the end.

In my opinion, the match is a draw and I despise these pathetic ICC rules where the winner is decided based on boundaries and sixes. Entertaining yet controversial final overall.

Although England have won the World cup but they could not call them clear winners as the match and the Super over both ended on tie. Choosing a winner on the basis of boundaries is not fair. Maybe it could go to another super over to decide.  Roll Eyes
NZ will remember this world cup for a long time and think if luck could be on their side.
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Bad luck NZ. The scores still remain same in Super over too and England is the winner.
Just before the super over, NZ could have won it in the match if that bowl was not gone to boundary on the throw by hitting the bat.
Luck basically transferred from New Zealand to England since New Zealand very quite lucky reaching the finals of this World Cup. The Stokes catch, overthrow hitting his bat etc show how lucky England were towards the end.

In my opinion, the match is a draw and I despise these pathetic ICC rules where the winner is decided based on boundaries and sixes. Entertaining yet controversial final overall.
legendary
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Anyways, when should I lock this thread? Tomorrow?

Asap for an apparent reason, guess will hang out again in the old thread? Ashes is scheduled next month, and chances are Royce going to open betting thread for the Ashes ( not sure yet). Your participation in discussion is always welcome. We already have tiny community, it's better to stick with each other Tongue
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this was probably the best world cup final ever.
One of the most exciting finals in cricketing history, when you tie the match in regular time and then once again tie the super over, they should share the trophy rather than giving it to the team who scored more boundaries, seeing cricket for a very long time and i never saw a final like this in my life, England were really lucky as New Zealand dropped a catch of Stokes i guess and a over throw that reached the boundary in the final over because it flew from the bat of the English player and over all it was a dramatic game of cricket till the final ball off the super over and you will never get a narrow victory than this  Cheesy.
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OMG! It's time for super over!

Bad luck NZ. The scores still remain same in Super over too and England is the winner.
Just before the super over, NZ could have won it in the match if that bowl was not gone to boundary on the throw by hitting the bat.

Yeah, the New Zealanders will see that four of over-throw in their nightmare for the next few weeks. Very bad luck indeed. Just before this match, New Zealand was pretty much the luckiest team of the world cup, but now it seems like their luck paid off the debt.

Anyways, this was probably the best world cup final ever.

First world cup for England and the one worth remembering for centuries. They were unlucky for these all years being a strong team in almost all of the worldcups but never wining one. They were certainly the better team but luck was swinging from one team to other in the whole match. And at last it was in favor of England.

Well, England did make it to the finals a lot of times before, but could never finish the final with a win. Even though I think that it's beyond stupid to decide the world cup champions on the basis of the number of boundaries, it's good to see that the English team finally made it and won the world cup.

Anyways, when should I lock this thread? Tomorrow?

Yes I think tomorrow the thread should be locked as there is no sense people continuing to post in here now that the World Cup is over.

Congrats to England on winning the World Cup for the first time, I feel sorry for New Zealand as this now makes it two World Cups in a row that they have lost and this time they were so close but just couldn't get the job done. Now lets see if England can continue the momentum into the Ashes series which starts soon.
legendary
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OMG! It's time for super over!

Bad luck NZ. The scores still remain same in Super over too and England is the winner.
Just before the super over, NZ could have won it in the match if that bowl was not gone to boundary on the throw by hitting the bat.

Yeah, the New Zealanders will see that four of over-throw in their nightmare for the next few weeks. Very bad luck indeed. Just before this match, New Zealand was pretty much the luckiest team of the world cup, but now it seems like their luck paid off the debt.

Anyways, this was probably the best world cup final ever.

First world cup for England and the one worth remembering for centuries. They were unlucky for these all years being a strong team in almost all of the worldcups but never wining one. They were certainly the better team but luck was swinging from one team to other in the whole match. And at last it was in favor of England.

Well, England did make it to the finals a lot of times before, but could never finish the final with a win. Even though I think that it's beyond stupid to decide the world cup champions on the basis of the number of boundaries, it's good to see that the English team finally made it and won the world cup.

Anyways, when should I lock this thread? Tomorrow?
legendary
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OMG! It's time for super over!

Bad luck NZ. The scores still remain same in Super over too and England is the winner.
Just before the super over, NZ could have won it in the match if that bowl was not gone to boundary on the throw by hitting the bat.

Yeah, the New Zealanders will see that four of over-throw in their nightmare for the next few weeks. Very bad luck indeed. Just before this match, New Zealand was pretty much the luckiest team of the world cup, but now it seems like their luck paid off the debt.

Anyways, this was probably the best world cup final ever.

First world cup for England and the one worth remembering for centuries. They were unlucky for these all years being a strong team in almost all of the worldcups but never wining one. They were certainly the better team but luck was swinging from one team to other in the whole match. And at last it was in favor of England.
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