Maybe the time has come for PCB to play some daring card. India vs Pakistan fixture in the ICC tournament does generate revenue, not the highest rating if we go by recent WC numbers but it's enough.
PCB could threaten ICC to boycott these tailormade (Keyword) fixtures, not publicly because it'd be dumb and they have already done that countless times. Instead, they should go privately when everyone is at the high table conference and pitch it. This move requires backbone, some planning, and most importantly for once PCB officials must think about Pakistan cricket first and not look for a shortcut or personal gains.
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Currently, ICC having their own agenda just because of this we have green signal for the Pakistan from them about ICC Champions Trophy as I already mentioned many twists are coming in coming months with one thing is sure India is not coming to Pakistan for playing cricket it's 100% sure and now what will do ICC things will be clear in near future with most chances they will also go with India because currently in cricket we have all biased system which is going with India due to huge funds and finances.Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
So this is also fact IPL money is working, and they are enjoying with this all just because of this ICC is also not working for the development of this game as they are now also wanted strong hold of India on this game due to deep pockets.
I'm just going to be honest, ICC is literally a pussy. They have no backbone. Otherwise, they could have said that we do not care about India and we will go forward and make cricket popular in the whole world. But of course, they are not going to do that because India is generating around 90% of the revenue. India is also of course taking that chance beautifully. If it is already decided that Pakistan is going to host a tournament, I don't think there should be any discussion about it just because India is not willing to play in Pakistan. If this was any other team, that team would have ruled out. But of course, this is India we are talking about and they have great power over the ICC.
Regards
Duke
When you have no strong case in any organization and your money is also not works then things like these happen easily, I really appreciate ITF and its decision.
Hopefully now Indian will be also skipped this tour because this is already rejected by ITF and its tribunal as well so if they will not tour then they will be going into Davis Cup group 2 and Pakistan will be stayed in this group as winner.
https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/tennis/aita-loses-appeal-in-itf-tribunal-indian-davis-cup-team-will-have-to-travel-to-pakistan-2823399
Hopefully now Indian will be also skipped this tour because this is already rejected by ITF and its tribunal as well so if they will not tour then they will be going into Davis Cup group 2 and Pakistan will be stayed in this group as winner.
https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/tennis/aita-loses-appeal-in-itf-tribunal-indian-davis-cup-team-will-have-to-travel-to-pakistan-2823399
Well, India won't be touring to Pakistan to play any sports whether it be cricket or tennis. I do not know the influence of ITF, but if we talk about cricket then ICC will definitely favor India and they will try their best to host the tournaments outside Pakistan even those which were planned to be hosted by Pakistan. They would not want an India to miss out on any tournament only because they can't visit Pakistan, rather they will move the tournament outside Pakistan and if Pakistan does not want to play, it doesn't matter to them.
Last time, the Indian tennis team visited Pakistan was back in 1964 and they won the series too but since then a lot has changed and now Indians have become a mighty giant in terms of ownership and resources of ICC.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do. PCB is not strong enough to do anything with current ICC setup and due to pressure of BCCI but still many other and positive ways are possible to have this all without any third-party involvement, but they need to put their ego and pride behind which is really need of the time as well.
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LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.
The last time PCB followed the compensation narrative, it blew back in their face and they ended up wasting millions only to lose a case and had to pay for all BCCI's expenses. Having said that, this time they might have some case because it's an ICC tournament but they have to play their cards right.
LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.
@Sithara007 the hybrid model turned out expensive for Pakistan if I remember correctly because there was a report which said that they had to pay a lot for the constant travelling. Further a compensation can be a good deal for them but it’ll also signal the end for any future ICC event which involves team India to be hosted there hence their best bet is to squeeze the maximum they can when ICC proposes the compensation idea.
I think in the end a hybrid model is actually what is going to end up happening. Because I don't think ICC can actually afford to not let India play. They are bringing the bread home for the ICC so to speak. And if ICC doesn't favour the breadwinner of the house, it is definitely going to be a problem. The viewership is going to be low. Icc doesn't want that. Probably the solution is going to be making a hybrid model and not giving any Indian matches in Pakistan. That is probably going to be the solution. But I don't think Pakistan is going to be very happy about that.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.
@Sithara007 the hybrid model turned out expensive for Pakistan if I remember correctly because there was a report which said that they had to pay a lot for the constant travelling. Further a compensation can be a good deal for them but it’ll also signal the end for any future ICC event which involves team India to be hosted there hence their best bet is to squeeze the maximum they can when ICC proposes the compensation idea.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
LOL.. this is exactly what is going to happen. At the most, PCB can try for a hybrid model, similar to the one that was used for the Asia Cup. But then, only 3-4 matches will be hosted in Pakistan and the rest will be hosted by the neutral country (United Arab Emirates or Sri Lanka). And I don't think that a hybrid system benefits PCB or any other board by any means. PCB can bargain hard to get a fat paycheck from the ICC in the form of compensation. And at this point, this is the best thing they can do.
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
So this is also fact IPL money is working, and they are enjoying with this all just because of this ICC is also not working for the development of this game as they are now also wanted strong hold of India on this game due to deep pockets.
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.
@SATWAT we all know how this will play out don’t we because Pakistan will keep screaming and ICC will pretend to listen and then they’ll conveniently back out and then Pakistan will agree for a neutral host which will be Srilanka. Lastly if anyone is expecting any different outcome then they’ll be horribly disappointed because nothing is going to change so let’s not spend our time discussing it when we already know the final outcome.
When you have no strong case in any organization and your money is also not works then things like these happen easily, I really appreciate ITF and its decision.
Hopefully now Indian will be also skipped this tour because this is already rejected by ITF and its tribunal as well so if they will not tour then they will be going into Davis Cup group 2 and Pakistan will be stayed in this group as winner.
https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/tennis/aita-loses-appeal-in-itf-tribunal-indian-davis-cup-team-will-have-to-travel-to-pakistan-2823399
Hopefully now Indian will be also skipped this tour because this is already rejected by ITF and its tribunal as well so if they will not tour then they will be going into Davis Cup group 2 and Pakistan will be stayed in this group as winner.
https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/tennis/aita-loses-appeal-in-itf-tribunal-indian-davis-cup-team-will-have-to-travel-to-pakistan-2823399
op I agree with you. That's because if a country is poor then first of all the government of that country will think about how its people are well. First, the government of the country where there is poverty will try to provide good employment to its people. Then the government should first look at various aspects of education system and medical field. Then comes the cricket, they will consider the cricket of the poor country a little later.
Poor countries don't want to invest in a sport like cricket to the exclusion of other important activities. If a country plays good cricket but is lagging behind in cricket due to lack of funding, then alternative measures would have been taken for them. But what we see in recent times is that the country which is poor is not good at cricket. Let's talk about Zimbabwe cricket, the cricket board of that country is not able to support the cricketers as much as they expect. But if ICC had played a role in all these cases then cricket would have been more competitive. But I think ICC has no focus on that.From now, they need to go through for T20i leagues in few countries and helped them with their domestic setup and other things as well, but they are having just few things which are circulating around them, and they are running for their personal interest with this all recently we have good development in African region and few Asian countries which is surely going to bring better things in near future.
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.
Even I am not sure Pakistan will be host this event but in case they are able to do this with the help of ICC then surely this could be not profitable for them mean to ICC because Indians will be boycotted this and ICC can't afford this all due to huge share of Indians in media rights and other financial things.
op I agree with you. That's because if a country is poor then first of all the government of that country will think about how its people are well. First, the government of the country where there is poverty will try to provide good employment to its people. Then the government should first look at various aspects of education system and medical field. Then comes the cricket, they will consider the cricket of the poor country a little later.
Poor countries don't want to invest in a sport like cricket to the exclusion of other important activities. If a country plays good cricket but is lagging behind in cricket due to lack of funding, then alternative measures would have been taken for them. But what we see in recent times is that the country which is poor is not good at cricket. Let's talk about Zimbabwe cricket, the cricket board of that country is not able to support the cricketers as much as they expect. But if ICC had played a role in all these cases then cricket would have been more competitive. But I think ICC has no focus on that. Indians can't compete with Pakbros in creating esteemed terrorists so poor guys had to settle with at least something.
Agreed, big or not, a scam is a scam but at the same time, needs some smoking gun if no concrete evidence is available. Hearsay is good for discussion but can't rely on it much.
Well, the terrorist groups were first created by America. If we could say anything bad about Pakistan, I guess it will be helping America to bomb Afghanistan for a long time. That was the point when Pakistan really sold out their brothers. Now of course the general public was not agreed to this. But those things happen.
Anyway, let's not get too political.
I actually do not know if sorting everything out is going to be fair towards the players. And by sorting everything out I mean not letting them play if they are not the citizen of that country. that becomes unfair to the poor countries.
Regards
Duke
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
I also read about this, but I want to say this is too early talking about this all because we have nearly 14 months and many ups and downs can happen during this time and how this works in ICC event without India is also big problem because there is no doubt currently ICC having nearly 75% of their income from the India and if they will not participate then how things will work it's also big question which needs to be solved before this event.The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
With this all, ICC already signed this but in critical situations they will be never stand with Pakistan because in ICC all big countries favour India due to their own financial problems, so I also want Pakistan host this event but right now talking about this all and giving arguments are not right just wait and watch how things will be gone in near future with currently main target is ICC T20 World Cup which is going to play in the USA/West Indies and with this can Pakistan host PSL2024 because we have another announcement they are going to have General Elections in February 2024 this is also conflicting.
Finally, the main threat is clear which is whether Pakistan will host the 2025 Champions trophy or not, because as you all know all everything is clear but when the tournament came so Indian team said that they would not come to Pakistan to play and then tournament moved to another country but this is a problem with only Indian team.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
The other team come to Pakistan but India do not come, but then ICC say that Pakistan is safe country, all the country will come in Pakistan to play the cricket, and PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf signed to ICC person that we will hosts, and if India not come so Indian team should need to give two points to every team and if they do this so they have a very low chances to win.
Not sure how it would be successful or not or pan out as they are hoping but you have to give credit to the BCCI for trying to find new ways to print money. At least In India, they are trying to tap and reach out to any potential market.
Useless bilateral will die soon (Barring a few series), these guys know it and already started gearing up.
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Useless bilateral will die soon (Barring a few series), these guys know it and already started gearing up.
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Already we have 3 months out of 12 blocked for the IPL. Then we have state level leagues such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League (TNPL) and the Karnataka Premier League (KPL). I don't understand the requirement for this second tier league. Ideally BCCI should organize a second division for each of the IPL franchises. For example, TNPL should actually be organized by the CSK instead of the Tamil Nadu Cricket Association. Similarly, Punjab Kings should organize a second division league for regions of Punjab, Haryana, JK and HP. This proposed 10 over league is just a carbon copy of IPL and it will be repetitive.
No issue with state leagues, states can carry on as it's localized but I wonder what if, this type of model is introduced in existing domestic setups like Ranji, Mushtaq Ali Trophy and Vijay Harare.
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