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Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.
Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

From what i understand the BCCI is not funding the state Cricket boards to built stadiums, all the infrastructure should be maintained by the respected owners, some are privately held and some are held by the respective state boards and the stadiums that meets the BCCI standards will get the opportunity to host International matches.

The exception you mentioned about Motera Stadium is simply because it is renovated recently, all new stadiums will have the same quality and the older it gets and the way in which they maintain, the quality goes down.

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But they are still shitty when it comes to their own cricketing infrastructure. If we leave out VIP boxes then it's a very sad situation in every stadium, Motera might be exceptional but the ones i have attended so far, the majority of em were really bad. During IPL they are okay but everything goes down to shit when it's over.

Agreed, but there were more things that comes into the priority. Just on humanity basis there is no support for the people. In such a situation we can't expect things to happen in order with cricket. Political involvement shouldn't be there with politics. This is where we can experience the change. Even the players are worse, because they complete their days in cricket. Once after that joins the political party. In recent years more players have joined under Modi which should have never happened. Just for their own goodness they join parties.

Another worst thing that had happened with Indian cricket is the naming of ground in the name of the Prime Minister who doesn't have any knowledge about cricket. When more and more popular sportsman who had stood strong for the country are there, the political involvement lets them name the biggest ground as Narendra Modi Stadium. Cricket is popular in India, and the same is being used by the political parties for their benefits. Mix-up of politics and sports, this could create hatred when governments overrule.

Well, of course, the players are going to join the party of Modi. Because if someone is actually supporting the opposition party, they will have a huge list, even on their life, let alone their career. So right now, even if people genuinely don’t like the Modi government they are still joining because they want to have the privileges that come with being in support with the government. And eventually, that is making the government stronger. This is just the opposite of what should have been happening. When people are joining the government instead of raising a voice against them, you know that the situation is bad.

Agreed, but there were more things that comes into the priority. Just on humanity basis there is no support for the people. In such a situation we can't expect things to happen in order with cricket. Political involvement shouldn't be there with politics. This is where we can experience the change. Even the players are worse, because they complete their days in cricket. Once after that joins the political party. In recent years more players have joined under Modi which should have never happened. Just for their own goodness they join parties.

The state governments also impose tax of up to 28% over the ticket price (on top of that, they charge exorbitant amounts for providing security and ruling politicians demand thousands of complementary passes). And they never do anything for the cricket fans. I understand the criticism directed towards the BCCI, but not everything is black and white here. In India, attending cricket matches is considered as a luxury, and politicians believe that they should tax such super-rich people to the brim. An example here:

https://www.indiatoday.in/cities/thiruvananthapuram/story/kerala-minister-abdurahim-entertainment-tax-tickets-india-sri-lanka-thiruvananthapuram-odi-2319587-2023-01-10

The problem is almost all the politicians in the subcontinent are corrupt. And another big problem is India is mostly run by the Modi government. There is basically no opposition party in India. So if the general population has any problem, they cannot say anything because the government will send people who basically “does not exist” to “handle” the situation.

In other countries, we see that if the general population has any problem with the opposition party raises voice, and the government takes that into consideration and makes the changes that are needed. But India basically has become a dictatorship under the Modi government. So whatever the politicians do is going to be the final decision.

The state governments also impose tax of up to 28% over the ticket price (on top of that, they charge exorbitant amounts for providing security and ruling politicians demand thousands of complementary passes). And they never do anything for the cricket fans. I understand the criticism directed towards the BCCI, but not everything is black and white here. In India, attending cricket matches is considered as a luxury, and politicians believe that they should tax such super-rich people to the brim. An example here:

https://www.indiatoday.in/cities/thiruvananthapuram/story/kerala-minister-abdurahim-entertainment-tax-tickets-india-sri-lanka-thiruvananthapuram-odi-2319587-2023-01-10

^^ BCCI might be rich and generate more than enough revenue in the context of the ICC setup.

But they are still shitty when it comes to their own cricketing infrastructure. If we leave out VIP boxes then it's a very sad situation in every stadium, Motera might be exceptional but the ones i have attended so far, the majority of em were really bad. During IPL they are okay but everything goes down to shit when it's over.

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I don't think that infrastructural facilities should be given weightage in funding. If the member nation doesn't get funds from the ICC, then how they are supposed to get these facilities? IMO, one important metric is missing here. They need to differentiate teams with foreign players and native players. They are not incentivizing teams like Nepal and Namibia which plays with native players, and on the other hand a higher score is given to teams like Oman and UAE as a result of infra facilities and non-ICC funding.

Scorecard and Competition grants seem thorough, but flaws lurk beneath. Scorecard Grant, balancing participation and income, is sound. But just 10% for infrastructural elements? It's the lifeblood of sports advancement. Competition Grant is on thin ice. Rewarding ICC tournament champs? Cool. Yet, no financial lifeline for teams failing World Cricket League Division 5? It's a vicious cycle for underdogs!

The Special Grant is a wild card. Bravo ICC for World Cup sweeteners! But, wouldn't nurturing budding teams, even non-finalists, lead to a cricket bloom in those regions?

The Special Grant is a wild card. Bravo ICC for World Cup sweeteners! But, wouldn't nurturing budding teams, even non-finalists, lead to a cricket bloom in those regions?

There has been a lot of questions on how ICC distributes its revenue among the Associate member nations. So I thought that I would try to explain it as much as I can understand.

ICC divides the associate funding to two branches - Scorecard Grant and Competition Grant. Teams are divided based on scoring on these two branches and allotted funding based on the scoring.

Scorecard Grant: ICC divides associate nations to 8 categories (Group A to Group N). Scoring is made on the basis of three parameters - 70% for participation (6 separate criteria), 20% for income other than that derived from the ICC and 10% for Infra and others (five separate criteria). For the 2015-23 cycle, funding allotted from this branch ranged from $12,500 per year for 20 teams in Group N, to $510,000 for the 4 teams in Group A. The 4 teams ranked in Group A during 2015 were Afghanistan, Ireland, Scotland and UAE.

Competition Grant: This branch measures the performance from associate teams in ICC tournaments. Under this branch, the top teams received around $700,000 per year. Those teams that are not capable of qualifying to World Cricket League Division 5 receive nothing from this branch.

Special Grant: In addition to the above two branches, the ICC sometimes provide special funding for some of the teams. These are: A. For qualifying to the ODI World Cup - $1 million each (provided to Afghanistan, Ireland, Scotland and UAE in 2015, and to none in 2019). B. $425,000 each is provided to teams that qualify for the T20 World Cup (in 2016 - Ireland, Afghanistan, Scotland, Oman, Hong Kong and Netherlands). C. Special grants to teams with ODI status - In 2016 $500,000 each to Ireland and Afghanistan, and $250,000 each to Scotland, Oman, Hong Kong, UAE, PNG and Netherlands.  

Note: Taken from the article by Tim Cutler.

Don't agree with rest of Africa, but cricket in Kenya has been on the decline for a while. But then Africa is the region where maximum growth has been attained over the last decade or so. I have been following various tournaments such as the T20 World Cup Qualifiers and Women's World Cup qualifiers. At this point, there are close to 20 countries who play cricket regularly, with two test nations (South Africa and Zimbabwe) and two other strong teams who are capable of qualifying to major ICC tournaments (Namibia and Uganda). And the best part is that almost all of these teams mainly rely on native players.

Interesting and a lot of information there. Overall, it looks like a shitty deal, no wonder spreading the game narrative is ridiculous in reality and just a lip serving from the ICC.

But I'd like to dig into it and check more details. Mind adding the main source link in your post as well? That would be helpful.

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Note: Taken from the article by Tim Cutler.

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Competition Grant: This branch measures the performance from associate teams in ICC tournaments. Under this branch, the top teams received around $700,000 per year. Those teams that are not capable of qualifying to World Cricket League Division 5 receive nothing from this branch.

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