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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 11, 2023, 11:19:03 PM

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At least something positive came out of it, which was about to happen once the Olympic tag came along with the cricket.

It'll still take some time because atm few teams are participating in it but it's an amazing update and I am sure more associate teams will follow the same, not in the short term but surely things will look juicy in the next 4-8 years as far as local participation in the squad is concerned.

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Quote from: roksana.hee on December 10, 2023, 09:10:50 AM

I much appreciate you as a strong team is India U19 but on the other hand, you already watched the performance of Azan's 105 runs from 130 balls, also watch the performance of Saad's 68 runs from 51 balls, and the most attacking batsman 63 runs from 88 balls. Best wishes for Pakistani Cricket U19. Congratulations on your combined performance.

Today was the match of Nepal and India, and what a great victory by India, I can't believe that a team like India can easily defeat Nepal, the Nepal team is not big but they are a good team, but on the other hand, the big team is in front of Nepal, so, of course, Nepal cannot be able to win that.

Nepal should be happy because their small team at least plays with the biggest and unluckiest team, I am saying unluckiest team because they always lose the final or semi-final, I don't need to explain that in which recent ICC tournament they lose because if you watch cricket so you knew this.

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Yes, this is definitely a good sign and this is also going to be very good for the future and longevity of cricket. We all know that right now there is a burst in popularity for football, I am talking about this decade, and at the same time we are watching the popularity of cricket actually go down when we think about the whole world. Probably the only place where cricket is and always will be popular is the subcontinent.

Anyway, because of having players from other countries, some teams were able to have an unfair advantage over others. But now that is going to change in my opinion. Now we will actually see teams having a fair chance. Those who are new are going to be able to perform better.

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 11, 2023, 11:19:03 PM

Cricket was included in the Olympic Games just a few weeks back and already it is having an impact in international cricket. Oman Cricket Board has decided to form a cricket team solely comprised of citizens, so that they can compete in Asian Games and Olympics.

https://timesofoman.com/article/139411-oman-cricket-plans-to-send-all-omani-team-for-asian-games-and-olympics

So far Oman Cricket has identified a pool of 16 natives, to be captained by Sufyan Mehmood. They are planning to expand this to 20. This is a good sign, BTW. Ideally only citizens should be permitted to take part in national team matches. ICC has come up with this weird eligibility criteria, which makes it possible to have a national team to be comprised of 100% non-citizens.

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Cricket was included in the Olympic Games just a few weeks back and already it is having an impact in international cricket. Oman Cricket Board has decided to form a cricket team solely comprised of citizens, so that they can compete in Asian Games and Olympics.

https://timesofoman.com/article/139411-oman-cricket-plans-to-send-all-omani-team-for-asian-games-and-olympics

So far Oman Cricket has identified a pool of 16 natives, to be captained by Sufyan Mehmood. They are planning to expand this to 20. This is a good sign, BTW. Ideally only citizens should be permitted to take part in national team matches. ICC has come up with this weird eligibility criteria, which makes it possible to have a national team to be comprised of 100% non-citizens.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 10, 2023, 08:52:08 AM

Just for fun, once I want ICC or PCB to get overconfident or daring and go without BCCI in any ICC event barring WTC as it won't have a big impact.

If a tournament does well in terms of numbers without India then it'll be a big win for everyone and it'll humble BCCI to not pull out this sort of card ever. At the same time if the opposite happens then well we know the script, don't we?

It is time for ending this debate and it is possible just if they have balls and go ahead without India in any ICC event because if they want to end these issues its good time for having changes like these just leave this all and go ahead if they succeeded then surely Indian authorities will think about their stance about Pakistan and if we have failure for the ICC then surely they have to accept this reality and it is also going to end for Pakistan in ICC and ACC events for long time.

But, currently in ICC no one going to dare this because we all know how things are going and how they are managing so right now for some time this all is going as we have right now with Pakistan is not going to host and ICC is not going to interfere in this all and due to huge finances shareholder India will take his advantages like they are doing.

Right now almost 90% of the whole ICC audience is Indian. So I do not think anyone is going to dare fight against India for anything, ICC also knows that very well. If they have any problems with India, or if they do anything that India does not like at this moment, they are going to lose a lot of viewers. ICC will definitely not like that to happen. Already there is no India versus Pakistan series. So that has already brought down the viewership quite a lot. And there is also a reason why ICC does not tell India anything about that, the reason is what I just mentioned above.

So now I do not think anyone is going to dare going against India. And let's be honest, Pakistan did that because Pakistan had to. And another thing is, the Pakistani players and the Indian players do not have any problems with each other. It is just because of the politics.

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Quote from: virasog on December 10, 2023, 05:29:07 AM

The first innings is finished, and in the next innings we see Pakistani batsmen taking on Indian bowlers, Pakistani bowlers did good bowling so Pakistani batsmen should impressed with their bowling attack and should play like that if Pakistan wins this match so we should take their name that these all players who possible this victory.

Indian bowling attack is also very strong, and they also had very good spinners and pacers like Raj Limbani and Arshin Kulkarni, they both took three wickets against Afghanistan, which was the first match of this U19 Asia Cup, and not only them but others are equally played like them.

This was a good battle at the top of group with after winning toss Pakistan chose to field and their bowlers done good job which help their team for having comfortable win in this match now after winning both their matches they are at the top and having their next game against Afghanistan which won their game against Nepal and now having 2 points after two rounds currently situation is straight, but we can have changes as well because next match is Pakistan vs Afghanistan and India vs Nepal, so India will be comfortably in last four and Pakistan have to beat Afghanistan which could be interesting match.

In today game, we have good batting from Azan which able to reach his century and stay until end of the game with good support from Shahzaib and captain Saad both complete their fifties in this game.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 10, 2023, 08:52:08 AM

Just for fun, once I want ICC or PCB to get overconfident or daring and go without BCCI in any ICC event barring WTC as it won't have a big impact.

If a tournament does well in terms of numbers without India then it'll be a big win for everyone and it'll humble BCCI to not pull out this sort of card ever. At the same time if the opposite happens then well we know the script, don't we?

It is time for ending this debate and it is possible just if they have balls and go ahead without India in any ICC event because if they want to end these issues its good time for having changes like these just leave this all and go ahead if they succeeded then surely Indian authorities will think about their stance about Pakistan and if we have failure for the ICC then surely they have to accept this reality and it is also going to end for Pakistan in ICC and ACC events for long time.

But, currently in ICC no one going to dare this because we all know how things are going and how they are managing so right now for some time this all is going as we have right now with Pakistan is not going to host and ICC is not going to interfere in this all and due to huge finances shareholder India will take his advantages like they are doing.

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Quote from: virasog on December 10, 2023, 05:29:07 AM

The first innings is finished, and in the next innings we see Pakistani batsmen taking on Indian bowlers, Pakistani bowlers did good bowling so Pakistani batsmen should impressed with their bowling attack and should play like that if Pakistan wins this match so we should take their name that these all players who possible this victory.

Indian bowling attack is also very strong, and they also had very good spinners and pacers like Raj Limbani and Arshin Kulkarni, they both took three wickets against Afghanistan, which was the first match of this U19 Asia Cup, and not only them but others are equally played like them.

I much appreciate you as a strong team is India U19 but on the other hand, you already watched the performance of Azan's 105 runs from 130 balls, also watch the performance of Saad's 68 runs from 51 balls, and the most attacking batsman 63 runs from 88 balls. Best wishes for Pakistani Cricket U19. Congratulations on your combined performance.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 10, 2023, 01:30:09 AM

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It is very simple. If the Champions trophy is held in Pakistan, then the Indian government will not allow the BCCI to travel to that country. In the end, India maybe replaced with the 9th ranked team from 2023 ODI World Cup. But then, the media rights holders won't be happy. They have agreed to the huge media package deal, with the condition that Indian team will be participating in all of these tournaments. So if India is replaced with some other country, then the ICC need to compensate the media rights holders (Disney Star).

Just for fun, once I want ICC or PCB to get overconfident or daring and go without BCCI in any ICC event barring WTC as it won't have a big impact.

If a tournament does well in terms of numbers without India then it'll be a big win for everyone and it'll humble BCCI to not pull out this sort of card ever. At the same time if the opposite happens then well we know the script, don't we?

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Quote from: roksana.hee on December 10, 2023, 05:09:00 AM

The excitement surrounding a Pakistan vs India cricket match is always unmatched, regardless of the age group. It's great to hear that the Pakistan U19 team is performing well, especially with the bowlers showing their skills in this inning. Crossing 259 is indeed a commendable achievement for India, but it seems like Pakistan's batting strength is promising, as demonstrated in the recent match against Nepal.

I was impressed by the batting of Sachin Dhas. He got the runs of 58 from 42 balls with 2 fours, and 3 sixes, and the strike rate is 138.09. Really a big achievement.

On the other hand, it's not a big score for Pakistani Cricket Team U19. If they occur an opening partnership then it will be an easy score for Pakistani U19 Team. Best of luck Pakistani Cricket Team.

The first innings is finished, and in the next innings we see Pakistani batsmen taking on Indian bowlers, Pakistani bowlers did good bowling so Pakistani batsmen should impressed with their bowling attack and should play like that if Pakistan wins this match so we should take their name that these all players who possible this victory.

Indian bowling attack is also very strong, and they also had very good spinners and pacers like Raj Limbani and Arshin Kulkarni, they both took three wickets against Afghanistan, which was the first match of this U19 Asia Cup, and not only them but others are equally played like them.

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The excitement surrounding a Pakistan vs India cricket match is always unmatched, regardless of the age group. It's great to hear that the Pakistan U19 team is performing well, especially with the bowlers showing their skills in this inning. Crossing 259 is indeed a commendable achievement for India, but it seems like Pakistan's batting strength is promising, as demonstrated in the recent match against Nepal.

I was impressed by the batting of Sachin Dhas. He got the runs of 58 from 42 balls with 2 fours, and 3 sixes, and the strike rate is 138.09. Really a big achievement.

On the other hand, it's not a big score for Pakistani Cricket Team U19. If they occur an opening partnership then it will be an easy score for Pakistani U19 Team. Best of luck Pakistani Cricket Team.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on December 09, 2023, 01:22:52 AM

I completely agree, currently Pakistan is second most populated country in ICC but sadly in last 2 decades they are badly going down in stability and economically which is having many issues for them but no one going to accept ground realities which are bringing more problems for them in last two years we are having too many changes which are bringing more problems so with this all I have no positive signs for them in cricket with mostly other games are also ended.

Today is the biggest match that has taken place in cricket history, these countries match we say that this is not a cricket match it is more than a single cricket match, everyone is excited for this match from cricket, this match is Pakistan vs India, and today is also Pakistan vs India but the teams are under 19, and according to the current situation Pakistan U19 team play very well, Pakistan bowlers do very well bowling in this innings, India crossed 200 with struggle and I know that Pakistan batting is too good as you seen on yesterday's match against Nepal.

The point is we cannot deny the presence of Pakistan cricket and ICC needs the Pakistan team to remain in such a form to be able to play and lose in big tournaments against India.

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Quote from: SATWAT on December 09, 2023, 11:23:27 AM

As I am already saying about this most chances we will not have this Champions Trophy in Pakistan because Indian authorities will be not happy as they never want to give any financial or other benefit to Pakistan so most chances ICC will change the venue, and we will have this again in the UAE which could be better option for all it's all about personal ego and power nothing else.

I don't want to post few pics here which I take few days back here in my city as few Indian tennis players were here for playing ITF event because this was not good beneficial for the Pakistan to they arrive and enjoy their tour with their families as well, but cricket is surely having completely different things so BCCI and Indian government will never allow this all simply this is all end of this topic.

It is very simple. If the Champions trophy is held in Pakistan, then the Indian government will not allow the BCCI to travel to that country. In the end, India maybe replaced with the 9th ranked team from 2023 ODI World Cup. But then, the media rights holders won't be happy. They have agreed to the huge media package deal, with the condition that Indian team will be participating in all of these tournaments. So if India is replaced with some other country, then the ICC need to compensate the media rights holders (Disney Star).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 09, 2023, 11:15:12 AM

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Here I am not agreed with you about any other member will be having any concern because mostly are touring, and many other things are going normal its just Indian lobby and media which is creating some hype about situation is not good in Pakistan but still I am again going now things are not favorable for Pakistan in ICC so most chances we will have this trophy will be play in different views other than Pakistan but if we have strong government and other things then surely they will try to take some benefit which is also all depend on how ICC will go about this issue.
New Zealand, England and Australia are already completed their tours without any problem and most chances things will be improved, and we will have just BCCI as biggest opposition for this event not held in Pakistan.

A few teams like Australia and England completed their tours without any issue, but still if the BCCI is opposed to it, then the ICC can't stage any of the major tournaments in that country. If India pulls out, then 80% of the revenue is gone for the media rights holders. And if that happens, then all the full member boards will get impacted and not just the PCB. At this point, the best thing that the PCB can do is to try for the hybrid setup (even that is not guaranteed). Getting the funds from ICC is more important when compared to hosting tournaments for the PCB.

As I am already saying about this most chances we will not have this Champions Trophy in Pakistan because Indian authorities will be not happy as they never want to give any financial or other benefit to Pakistan so most chances ICC will change the venue, and we will have this again in the UAE which could be better option for all it's all about personal ego and power nothing else.
I don't want to post few pics here which I take few days back here in my city as few Indian tennis players were here for playing ITF event because this was not good beneficial for the Pakistan to they arrive and enjoy their tour with their families as well, but cricket is surely having completely different things so BCCI and Indian government will never allow this all simply this is all end of this topic.

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Quote from: SATWAT on December 09, 2023, 11:06:55 AM

Here I am not agreed with you about any other member will be having any concern because mostly are touring, and many other things are going normal its just Indian lobby and media which is creating some hype about situation is not good in Pakistan but still I am again going now things are not favorable for Pakistan in ICC so most chances we will have this trophy will be play in different views other than Pakistan but if we have strong government and other things then surely they will try to take some benefit which is also all depend on how ICC will go about this issue.
New Zealand, England and Australia are already completed their tours without any problem and most chances things will be improved, and we will have just BCCI as biggest opposition for this event not held in Pakistan.

A few teams like Australia and England completed their tours without any issue, but still if the BCCI is opposed to it, then the ICC can't stage any of the major tournaments in that country. If India pulls out, then 80% of the revenue is gone for the media rights holders. And if that happens, then all the full member boards will get impacted and not just the PCB. At this point, the best thing that the PCB can do is to try for the hybrid setup (even that is not guaranteed). Getting the funds from ICC is more important when compared to hosting tournaments for the PCB.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 09, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 09, 2023, 09:24:24 AM

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Zero hope from my side, at best, it would be a hybrid model and India will play its fixture in Dubai or maybe SL. Also, came across some reports that they are demanding compensation from BCCI if they don't visit Pakistan for CT.

You mentioned regulations on advertisements thingy a couple of times, what's that supposed to mean in the context of Pakistan? Not aware much of this topic.

In the end, it will be played in hybrid mode. For tax related complexities, GCC locations such as United Arab Emirates or Oman suits better for the ICC than Sri Lanka. Last time Asia Cup could not be held in GCC because of adverse weather conditions. But in case of Champions Trophy, there should be no such issues. Anyway, security situation in Pakistan is not that good either. So there is a good chance that a few of the full member boards other than the BCCI will be raising objections to the tournament being hosted by Pakistan.

Here I am not agreed with you about any other member will be having any concern because mostly are touring, and many other things are going normal its just Indian lobby and media which is creating some hype about situation is not good in Pakistan but still I am again going now things are not favorable for Pakistan in ICC so most chances we will have this trophy will be play in different views other than Pakistan but if we have strong government and other things then surely they will try to take some benefit which is also all depend on how ICC will go about this issue.
New Zealand, England and Australia are already completed their tours without any problem and most chances things will be improved, and we will have just BCCI as biggest opposition for this event not held in Pakistan.

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Quote from: Westinhome on December 09, 2023, 09:21:02 AM

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After winning the World Cup in 1975 and 1979, the team would be runner-up in 1983 and since then the team has not seen any ODI World Cup champions. They have been on a gradual decline. It is a shameful chapter for them they did not qualify for this year's World Cup. The foundation of their cricket is constantly weakening. They took steps to come out of this stage but no results were found. Despite their recent poor form in cricket, they got a win against England in the 1st match which was really impressive. It is unrealistic to expect such a victory from them. I think they are only fit to play short format of cricket.

After this three World Cup,West Indies never reached the Workd Cup was the saddest part of West Indies cricket.Even they conducted 2007 World Cup,they never reached the final and final was played by Australia and Srilanka.As like West Indies,South Africa had the strongest team and doesn’t have their World Cup luck was still in the controversy.In this 13 World Cup series,team South Africa never reached the finals was the still saddest one.But we all know South Africa was strongest team like England,New Zealand and West Indies.All this three teams reached the finals and two had the trophy once.

2023 World Cup South Africa performed brilliantly. They played very well from the first match to the last match. Really feel very bad for South Africa they never qualified for the finals after performing so well or the South African team never qualified for the championship. By performing so well, the South African team could never become the world champion. To be honest, it is a very painful thing for the South African team. Maybe South Africa can do very well in the championship trophy and win the champions trophy. Let's see how South Africa can fare in the upcoming Champions Trophy.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 09, 2023, 09:24:24 AM

@Sithara007

Zero hope from my side, at best, it would be a hybrid model and India will play its fixture in Dubai or maybe SL. Also, came across some reports that they are demanding compensation from BCCI if they don't visit Pakistan for CT.

You mentioned regulations on advertisements thingy a couple of times, what's that supposed to mean in the context of Pakistan? Not aware much of this topic.

In the end, it will be played in hybrid mode. For tax related complexities, GCC locations such as United Arab Emirates or Oman suits better for the ICC than Sri Lanka. Last time Asia Cup could not be held in GCC because of adverse weather conditions. But in case of Champions Trophy, there should be no such issues. Anyway, security situation in Pakistan is not that good either. So there is a good chance that a few of the full member boards other than the BCCI will be raising objections to the tournament being hosted by Pakistan.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 09, 2023, 09:08:15 AM

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I completely agree, currently Pakistan is second most populated country in ICC but sadly in last 2 decades they are badly going down in stability and economically which is having many issues for them but no one going to accept ground realities which are bringing more problems for them in last two years we are having too many changes which are bringing more problems so with this all I have no positive signs for them in cricket with mostly other games are also ended.

Now as we are heading for the 2024 they are having elections in February which are also creating problems for the organizing PSL in Pakistan if they are not able to hold this again then surely they can face more problems for them champions trophy as well but in current situation no one can bring anything positive for this country all is down in long run.

PSL contributes to a large share of the income for PCB. If they are unable to hold the elections, then it is not going to end well for the board and the players. Also if the opposition wins the election, we can expect further changes in PCB and that will destabilize the domestic cricket further. As of now, I am having little hope of Pakistan hosting the champions trophy in 2025. At the most, they can have a setup similar to what was done for the 2023 edition of Asia Cup. Given the power equilibrium in ICC and ACC, there is very little that PCB can do at this point.

Now one thing is sure India is having strong control in cricket, and now they are using this for ruining them even we have few good things which are going to help them but now most chances they will be not able to host any ICC or ACC relating event in Pakistan for some years because India will never visit and this will create problems for the ICC, and they will surely go with BCCI as they are the biggest generator of the game.
Pakistan is also having internal issues which are not going to settle in next few months and thing will be keep going like this which are surely favorable for the BCCI, so I have personal feeling Champions Trophy could be shifted to the UAE for the better ending of this all instead of going to have hybrid or anything else, but Pakistan will keep fight until last decision.

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Zero hope from my side, at best, it would be a hybrid model and India will play its fixture in Dubai or maybe SL. Also, came across some reports that they are demanding compensation from BCCI if they don't visit Pakistan for CT.

You mentioned regulations on advertisements thingy a couple of times, what's that supposed to mean in the context of Pakistan? Not aware much of this topic.

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