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March 30, 2023, 11:44:37 AM
I agree with all the points that you stated and it's true that FIFA is better than ICC in several ways, but they are also a lot worse in several ways. One of them is corruption. FIFA is 100% more corrupt than the ICC.

https://www.britannica.com/event/2015-FIFA-corruption-scandal

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/sports/soccer/qatar-and-russia-bribery-world-cup-fifa.html

These are just a couple of examples to prove my statements. ICC can't hold a candle against FIFA in the corruption department.

I have heard about this (2015 FIFA corruption case). In the end, most of the parties involved were indicted and Sepp Blatter was removed from office. Most of the accused entered in to guilty pleas, and only a few (Juan Ángel Napout, Carlos Chávez Landivar.etc) decided to fight their case. But the thing to remember here is that FIFA took strong action against these people. If the same happened in cricket, the accused individuals will most probably continue to hold their office. Anyway, if I want to look for a sports body that has taken strong action against corruption, I understand that FIFA is not the perfect choice.
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March 30, 2023, 04:28:08 AM
There are major differences between FIFA and the ICC:
1. In FIFA, every member nation has equal voting right. In ICC only 12 full members have voting rights.
2. FIFA expanded the world cup from 32 to 48 teams. ICC reduced the size from 16 teams to 10.
3. FIFA never allows foreigners in national team. ICC allows a team to be made of 100% foreigners.
4. FIFA fund allocation is based on performance. ICC fund allocation is based on member status.
5. FIFA is mostly administered by ex-players. ICC is mostly run by businessmen with no link to cricket.
I agree with all the points that you stated and it's true that FIFA is better than ICC in several ways, but they are also a lot worse in several ways. One of them is corruption. FIFA is 100% more corrupt than the ICC.

https://www.britannica.com/event/2015-FIFA-corruption-scandal
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/sports/soccer/qatar-and-russia-bribery-world-cup-fifa.html
These are just a couple of examples to prove my statements. ICC can't hold a candle against FIFA in the corruption department.

First of all, I agree with @Sithara007 that ICC is very corrupt. And BCCI is corrupt as well. But if we think about it, there had been times when the BCCI was the one who was basically oppressed by CA and other boards. So now it's their time. Why should they feel pity upon the others?

@Haunebu I am actually not going to get into the conversation of who is more corrupt. I think both ICC and FIFA are corrupt and the paradigm is almost similar to their corruption. I said that because ICC is not as big as FIFA. So there are a lot of chances of corruption in FIFA. ICC is certainly not as big as FIFA but it is still very corrupt.
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March 29, 2023, 11:59:48 PM
There are major differences between FIFA and the ICC:

1. In FIFA, every member nation has equal voting right. In ICC only 12 full members have voting rights.
2. FIFA expanded the world cup from 32 to 48 teams. ICC reduced the size from 16 teams to 10.
3. FIFA never allows foreigners in national team. ICC allows a team to be made of 100% foreigners.
4. FIFA fund allocation is based on performance. ICC fund allocation is based on member status.
5. FIFA is mostly administered by ex-players. ICC is mostly run by businessmen with no link to cricket.
I agree with all the points that you stated and it's true that FIFA is better than ICC in several ways, but they are also a lot worse in several ways. One of them is corruption. FIFA is 100% more corrupt than the ICC.

https://www.britannica.com/event/2015-FIFA-corruption-scandal

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/sports/soccer/qatar-and-russia-bribery-world-cup-fifa.html

These are just a couple of examples to prove my statements. ICC can't hold a candle against FIFA in the corruption department.
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March 29, 2023, 11:46:11 AM
I disagree. Baseball is popular in many countries(USA, Japan, Korea etc) and Cricket will always be popular at the international level thanks to the rising popularity levels of the T-10 and T-20 formats primarily.

Both FIFA and ICC have always been corrupt, but that never really caused an impact on the popularity of the sports themselves and I am confident that none of this will ever change in the future.

Rich boards will keep getting richer while the poor boards will perish basically.

There are major differences between FIFA and the ICC:

1. In FIFA, every member nation has equal voting right. In ICC only 12 full members have voting rights.
2. FIFA expanded the world cup from 32 to 48 teams. ICC reduced the size from 16 teams to 10.
3. FIFA never allows foreigners in national team. ICC allows a team to be made of 100% foreigners.
4. FIFA fund allocation is based on performance. ICC fund allocation is based on member status.
5. FIFA is mostly administered by ex-players. ICC is mostly run by businessmen with no link to cricket.
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March 29, 2023, 10:13:11 AM
Rishabh Pant is just lucky that he escaped more serious consequences. A few seconds after he got out of the vehicle, it caught fire and was completely destroyed in a matter of few hours. And regarding the Indian tour of Australia, the visitors performed poorly in the first two test matches when Pat Cummins was captaining them. But after Cummins was replaced with Steven Smith, they roared back with an upset win and then managed a draw for the 4th match. And then came the upset series win during the ODI series.

Rishabh Pant was lucky to escape the car fire unscathed it would be unfair to attribute his success to luck alone. As a talented and hardworking cricketer he has proven himself time and again on the field with great performances in both domestic and international matches. The Indian team's victory in Australia was a result of their resilience and determination rather than the leadership of any one individual. The team came together to overcome the odds and emerge victorious demonstrating their skills and teamwork. The ODI series win further cemented their status as a formidable cricketing force.
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March 29, 2023, 08:54:48 AM
The only side effect will be that the other nations will suffer and they will fail to become competitive at international level. In the end, cricket will become a one-nation sport, similar to baseball.
I disagree. Baseball is popular in many countries(USA, Japan, Korea etc) and Cricket will always be popular at the international level thanks to the rising popularity levels of the T-10 and T-20 formats primarily.

Both FIFA and ICC have always been corrupt, but that never really caused an impact on the popularity of the sports themselves and I am confident that none of this will ever change in the future.

Rich boards will keep getting richer while the poor boards will perish basically.
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March 28, 2023, 06:52:14 AM
A comparison with FIFA doesn't make sense at all. We have an ICC tournament every freaking year, it's not the case with the former. Then there is full members and associate nations drama.

USA ($25T) and EU ($17T) are developed economies and they contribute more than 50% of FIFA revenues according to you (or maybe at best 60-70%). In comparison, a developing economy like India ($3.5T) contributes 90% of ICC revenue. Stark differences in all indicators, don't you think?

FIFA and its member confederations d organize a number of tournaments. And the latest addition is FIFA Club World Cup, which is going to be expanded to 32 teams from the current 7-team setup. Once again, I don't think that the economic status of the country or contribution to the overall revenues should be a deciding factor. BCCI is a filthy rich board, and even if they get 90% of the ICC revenues that will comprise only a fraction of their total turnover. The only side effect will be that the other nations will suffer and they will fail to become competitive at international level. In the end, cricket will become a one-nation sport, similar to baseball.
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March 28, 2023, 06:31:36 AM
@Sithara007 According to you, how ICC's new revenue allocation policy should look like? Considering it's on record and a well established fact that BCCI contributes 90% of revenue?

Do you think that BCCI now has a genuine claim or it's still an unfair demand? IMO they should get a bigger pie this time.

None of the sports bodies work that way. USA and EU contribute to more than 50% of FIFA revenues. But these countries don't get any extra funding from the FIFA, and in case of USA their grants are much lower compared to high performing countries such as Argentina and France. Funding should be based on performance, and not based on where the funds originate. First of all, this tiered structure of full members and associate nations should be done away with. And then, funds should be allocated based on performance (only after repealing the current eligibility laws, which allow a "national" team to be comprised of 100% foreign citizens).
A comparison with FIFA doesn't make sense at all. We have an ICC tournament every freaking year, it's not the case with the former. Then there is full members and associate nations drama.

USA ($25T) and EU ($17T) are developed economies and they contribute more than 50% of FIFA revenues according to you (or maybe at best 60-70%). In comparison, a developing economy like India ($3.5T) contributes 90% of ICC revenue. Stark differences in all indicators, don't you think?
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March 28, 2023, 06:21:18 AM
@tusandii there’s not many major developments since you last watched an India’s cricket match except that their wicket keeper suffered an horrific accident but is making a recovery now, and second big development was Australia defeating them and winning the series despite being the tourists. Furthermore IPL is starting now so you may want to get a closer look on the player’s, as that’ll prepare you for future tournaments to decide whether to wager on India or some other team.

Rishabh Pant is just lucky that he escaped more serious consequences. A few seconds after he got out of the vehicle, it caught fire and was completely destroyed in a matter of few hours. And regarding the Indian tour of Australia, the visitors performed poorly in the first two test matches when Pat Cummins was captaining them. But after Cummins was replaced with Steven Smith, they roared back with an upset win and then managed a draw for the 4th match. And then came the upset series win during the ODI series.
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March 28, 2023, 05:34:10 AM
It's been a long time since I watched and bet on a cricket match.
As far as I can remember, the last time I watched a cricket match was a team from India and India was one of my favorite and mainstay teams at that time.
For now, I haven't updated on the development of the Indian cricket team, is it still the same as before, which has pretty good strengths and game strategies so that it always manages to give me an advantage when betting in favor of them.
The last time I heard about the India vs West Indies match was in last year's ODI match and India managed to beat the West Indies.
Maybe in the future I will return to actively betting and watching every cricket match that will take place.

You haven't mentioned when exactly you watch the last cricket match but believe me, Indian team, as gotten better over the time. There was a time when Indian team had a very good batting attack but they lack in the bowling department but the modern cricket team has produced both great batsmen and bowlers in recent time. The IPL has really contributed well to making India the top-performing team.

As far as betting is concerned, i would suggest not to bet blindly on one team. Always see the current match situation, the opponent the Indian team is playing and then decide to bet on them or bet against them.
I was last aware of the Indian team's cricket match in July 2022.
After that match I was no longer active in any Indian team cricket matches due to other factors which made me leave cricket betting and could not watch it.
If indeed the Indian team is as good as this is quite good information because I will start being active in cricket betting by supporting India as my favorite team.
How can I bet not only on one team while there is a limit to the betting funds that I use so it is not possible to bet on more than one team.

@tusandii there’s not many major developments since you last watched an India’s cricket match except that their wicket keeper suffered an horrific accident but is making a recovery now, and second big development was Australia defeating them and winning the series despite being the tourists. Furthermore IPL is starting now so you may want to get a closer look on the player’s, as that’ll prepare you for future tournaments to decide whether to wager on India or some other team.
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March 28, 2023, 05:19:15 AM
@Sithara007 According to you, how ICC's new revenue allocation policy should look like? Considering it's on record and a well established fact that BCCI contributes 90% of revenue?

Do you think that BCCI now has a genuine claim or it's still an unfair demand? IMO they should get a bigger pie this time.

None of the sports bodies work that way. USA and EU contribute to more than 50% of FIFA revenues. But these countries don't get any extra funding from the FIFA, and in case of USA their grants are much lower compared to high performing countries such as Argentina and France. Funding should be based on performance, and not based on where the funds originate. First of all, this tiered structure of full members and associate nations should be done away with. And then, funds should be allocated based on performance (only after repealing the current eligibility laws, which allow a "national" team to be comprised of 100% foreign citizens).
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March 28, 2023, 04:50:32 AM
It's been a long time since I watched and bet on a cricket match.
As far as I can remember, the last time I watched a cricket match was a team from India and India was one of my favorite and mainstay teams at that time.
For now, I haven't updated on the development of the Indian cricket team, is it still the same as before, which has pretty good strengths and game strategies so that it always manages to give me an advantage when betting in favor of them.
The last time I heard about the India vs West Indies match was in last year's ODI match and India managed to beat the West Indies.
Maybe in the future I will return to actively betting and watching every cricket match that will take place.

You haven't mentioned when exactly you watch the last cricket match but believe me, Indian team, as gotten better over the time. There was a time when Indian team had a very good batting attack but they lack in the bowling department but the modern cricket team has produced both great batsmen and bowlers in recent time. The IPL has really contributed well to making India the top-performing team.

As far as betting is concerned, i would suggest not to bet blindly on one team. Always see the current match situation, the opponent the Indian team is playing and then decide to bet on them or bet against them.
I was last aware of the Indian team's cricket match in July 2022.
After that match I was no longer active in any Indian team cricket matches due to other factors which made me leave cricket betting and could not watch it.
If indeed the Indian team is as good as this is quite good information because I will start being active in cricket betting by supporting India as my favorite team.
How can I bet not only on one team while there is a limit to the betting funds that I use so it is not possible to bet on more than one team.
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March 28, 2023, 12:04:04 AM
@Sithara007 According to you, how ICC's new revenue allocation policy should look like? Considering it's on record and a well established fact that BCCI contributes 90% of revenue?

Do you think that BCCI now has a genuine claim or it's still an unfair demand? IMO they should get a bigger pie this time.
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March 27, 2023, 08:44:07 PM
From what I can see, no important decision was taken during the recently concluded ICC meeting at the United Arab Emirates. The most sticky topic is regarding revenue distribution among the full and associate members. And they need to do finalize the structure quickly, since the current structure expires within 9 months. It may take at least 6 months to get in to all the finer details and setup the payment gateways. So any delay in this regard will have the potential to hamper the functioning of national cricket boards.

Just a remainder. This is the existing structure for fund allocation:


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March 27, 2023, 05:44:12 PM
It's been a long time since I watched and bet on a cricket match.
As far as I can remember, the last time I watched a cricket match was a team from India and India was one of my favorite and mainstay teams at that time.
For now, I haven't updated on the development of the Indian cricket team, is it still the same as before, which has pretty good strengths and game strategies so that it always manages to give me an advantage when betting in favor of them.
The last time I heard about the India vs West Indies match was in last year's ODI match and India managed to beat the West Indies.
Maybe in the future I will return to actively betting and watching every cricket match that will take place.

You haven't mentioned when exactly you watch the last cricket match but believe me, Indian team, as gotten better over the time. There was a time when Indian team had a very good batting attack but they lack in the bowling department but the modern cricket team has produced both great batsmen and bowlers in recent time. The IPL has really contributed well to making India the top-performing team.

As far as betting is concerned, i would suggest not to bet blindly on one team. Always see the current match situation, the opponent the Indian team is playing and then decide to bet on them or bet against them.
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March 27, 2023, 08:11:19 AM
I can see the leader of the Taliban has recently visited India and met Modi. So the situation between Afghanistan and India is friendly. At least that's my assumption. Now India is not going to help Afghanistan without any reason. But I don't see any option for Afghanistan without agreeing with India at this moment. But at the same time, they did not agree with America for almost two decades.
Even this all is deep politics but still I want to give few updates about this all changes which are happening around Afghanistan it all started last year when we have regime change in Pakistan now things are changing very quickly because this change was backed by the USA, and they were looking for few benefits which are now coming for them and their partner India in shape of Pakistan which was near China and Russia now have cut ties and many contracts and other things which was giving benefits to these parties are also ended so just because of this now India is also looking for joining Taliban to have visited them and create some backdoor relationship.

Just because of this now I have feeling most chances ICC will not suspend Afghanistan status which is backed by Australia, England and New Zealand due to have no women's cricket team, and they will give them time or any exemption even they will never allow women's to play games because they are not allowing them for having advance education and sports is far away from their current agenda.
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March 27, 2023, 04:42:13 AM
It's been a long time since I watched and bet on a cricket match.
As far as I can remember, the last time I watched a cricket match was a team from India and India was one of my favorite and mainstay teams at that time.
For now, I haven't updated on the development of the Indian cricket team, is it still the same as before, which has pretty good strengths and game strategies so that it always manages to give me an advantage when betting in favor of them.
The last time I heard about the India vs West Indies match was in last year's ODI match and India managed to beat the West Indies.
Maybe in the future I will return to actively betting and watching every cricket match that will take place.
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March 27, 2023, 03:01:48 AM
Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.

At least politically, Indian government considers Afghanistan as one of the allies (despite the takeover by Taliban), and have provided them backing when required in UN and other global bodies.
Please point me to one instance where the Indian government has backed the Taliban on any international platform since the regime change (barring humanitarian aid). India (doesn't matter which gov) sees Afghanistan from a civilizational point of view, irrespective of all political/ideological differences. That's why they never stop aid etc as it directly focuses on civilians. Then there is some geo-political compulsion.

You and I already discussed the Nepal issue couple of times so there is no point in repeating my take on the Nepal issue.

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In Myanmar, India has supported the Rohingya and Chin rebel groups and have supported UN resolutions against Myanmar on the Rohingya issue. The church-controlled states such as Mizoram and Nagaland have allowed Chin rebel groups to establish their bases near the Myanmar border, from where they regularly attack the Tatmadaw.
Relation with Myanmar is a mixed bag. Indian foreign policy with the bordering neighbor is quite consistent and Myanmar is no exception. Indian political support for democratic Myanmar is no surprise and yeah CDF rebel group is creating problems but India can't just kick them out because they will be killed. Despite this they also have fairly good relations with the military Junta due to long security cooperation with Tatmadaw in regards to the counter-insurgency in the northeast, that's why they never criticize them openly. Hell, they didn't even condemn the coup openly as they like to engage with all powers because of the long border and don't want to push them toward china completely. It's a tightrope and a lot of monkey balancing is going on but completely fine as it minimizes the damage.


Let's go back to cricket drama.
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March 26, 2023, 01:55:30 PM
Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.
At least politically, Indian government considers Afghanistan as one of the allies (despite the takeover by Taliban), and have provided them backing when required in UN and other global bodies. Afghanistan, Maldives, Bhutan and Bangladesh are some of the countries that are considered as "allies" by the government in Delhi. On the other hand, they have taken a very hostile stance against Nepal and Myanmar for geopolitical reasons. The Indian government considers these two countries as pro-China. Back in 2015, when Nepal was hit by an earthquake (when 10,000+ people died), the Indian government imposed a blockade which prevented the transport of medicines to that country. In Myanmar, India has supported the Rohingya and Chin rebel groups and have supported UN resolutions against Myanmar on the Rohingya issue. The church-controlled states such as Mizoram and Nagaland have allowed Chin rebel groups to establish their bases near the Myanmar border, from where they regularly attack the Tatmadaw.
BCCI is nowadays controlled almost entirely by politicians from the ruling party, such as Jay Shah, Anurag Thakur and Prem Kumar Dhumal and therefore their policies closely align with that of the Indian government. For the last two decades, the BCCI has refused to help the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN) in any capacity, while they have showered huge amounts of money on the Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB).

I can see the leader of the Taliban has recently visited India and met Modi. So the situation between Afghanistan and India is friendly. At least that's my assumption. Now India is not going to help Afghanistan without any reason. But I don't see any option for Afghanistan without agreeing with India at this moment. But at the same time, they did not agree with America for almost two decades.
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March 26, 2023, 01:47:00 PM
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I do not understand why the cricket boards and countries are sanctioning the Taliban. Because those countries have a lot of feminists saying that they can do whatever they want and whatever a man can do. Just get them to remove the Talibans, get them to fight against the Talibans, and make them use their feminist revolution to get the Afghani women to go to school.
If you revolt you will be dead and no one will come to you aide. So it is an impossible task.

Well then maybe the women have to be smart. It is much more important to stay alive than to go to school.
Just stay home, let your man do whatever he has to do to feed the family, and stay alive. After all, staying alive and reproducing is the main target of any species.


I just find it really surprising, and also dumb because I understand that they are trying to talk about women's rights. But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.
It is not true, when a generation of people enjoy freedom for 20 years and then all of a sudden when you are forced to live with all the restrictions i bet no one will be happy. So the idea of everyone is happy that the Taliban took over is a myth. 

I would not certainly say that they enjoyed freedom for 20 years. Whatever was going on in Afghanistan could be anything but not freedom. And for humankind to exist, they always have to be some kind of rules. Just think about the athletes, if there were no rules or restrictions, a high percentage of the athletes in all the sports all around the world would have shown up to the training ground drunk. The world runs better when there are restrictions and consequences.

I am certainly not saying that the Taliban is the best thing that ever happened to Afghanistan. They can also make mistakes and I'm sure they have made plenty. But right now it's the only choice for Afghanistan.
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