Crime Effect of Gambling - Your thoughts! - page 10.

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Quote from: sweetbet on September 23, 2018, 06:34:20 PM

There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.

I think its influence is not only from the external as you say but also from your own internal, because I could see how gambling
addiction will be the same as drug addiction, in the news someone stole money in a store because they want to back in gamble

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I believe some (offline) casinos themselves allow such immoral activities to be done at their place, for e.g.; giving high drug dose to their clients knowingly or to make use of girls (here: prostitutes) because they want to either break their winning streak by breaking their concentration in either ways. But as OP says, it is dependent upon the players themselves to the utmost levels whether their only intention is gambling or they want those drugs and/or prostitutes for their physical/mental needs. Gambling is nowhere related to crimes unless done under debts because then, the debtor tries to either run away or kill the creditor in case they feel uncertain about the possibilities for them repaying back, and the same applies for creditors when debtors don't repay, either these creditors use harsh ways like extortion attempts to make them repay or maybe kill them.

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Quote from: Fatanut on September 24, 2018, 01:50:55 AM

Quote from: BerneirBTC on September 24, 2018, 01:24:18 AM

Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.

That makes no sense at all, for the criminals to gather in one place. The casinos would have been busted already. I think known criminals hangout elsewhere. Those that you are describing are those that aren't wanted persons. They have possibly done crimes in the past but never got caught.

I really wouldn't say that such things root from gambling. Gambling roots from something else which is greed. Everything's rooted from greed. Everyone wants everything. The ones who don't want to do something illegal will give gambling a shot. It's why everyone's so crazy about the lottery. Everyone's hoping that one day their lucky day will come.

It's a messed up world. Everyone's consumed by greed. The new luxury these days is being genuinely content and happy with little things.

I really would say this mentality about crime being associated with casinos came from the initial stage where we ended up having a lot of criminals using casinos as a hang out most of the time, and over the years, which has become something of a general notion for most people when it comes to casino. However, in this day and age, a lot of things have changed.

Now, casinos are regulated, you will even need a license before you can open one, and if you really do not want to get out of business, you would really want to be watchful of the sort of activities going on within the casino, so I would say this thing is something of the old time, except of course for places where crime rate naturally is huge and then there is actually no form of regulation at all.

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Quote from: andreijoaquin on September 26, 2018, 02:30:07 PM

For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

The addiction is the first thing that every gambler can get while they played gambling every day. But the crime effect is not just come only from gambling because the poverty is the one thing that might give an effect to the crime itself. So I don't think that gambling can gives effect to the crime, but maybe the crime can happen if the gambler needs money to continue playing gambling and he stole the money from other people.

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Quote from: andreijoaquin on September 26, 2018, 02:30:07 PM

For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

And where do you think a gambler's life lead? It's definitely leading to poverty since money is involved. Druggies only have to buy a dollar worth of drug and they are good to go. Gamblers, on the other hand, have you really seen a gambler lose one dollar in a casino and then move on? Drugs are far more cheaper than gambling. Once a gambler has lost everything due to gambling, and I'm talking about to the point where he had to sell his properties and belongings, he's going to be homeless and start doing bad things just to survive. At first it will be just as simple as lying, then manipulation, then comes the selling of the small things such as jewelries, and so on. You get the picture.

Just so you know, it's not the drugs that makes people want to do crime. It's the addiction itself. They want to feed the addiction and so they commit crime. I mean, it would be so hard to steal when you're stoned. You can't even get off the couch. Grin

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There is a reason why gambling is addicting as it is a game where you could profit and make money but losing makes you play longer causing addiction. If you manage to check out the surroundings of a casino, sometimes it is possible that there are criminal activities near it. Maybe some of them will trigger the wanting of doing drugs or prostitution because of their sadness. It may affect, but it's by itself mostly.

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For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

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The OP seems to imply that somehow gambling increases illegal activities and gives the example of prostitution and the consumption of drugs, but what gambling does at best is to attract those kind of people because they know that the people inside the casino have money to spare, but gambling in itself does not increase those activities, those activities will happen anyway, however there are some crimes that could go up due to the influence of gambling, for example those that are addicted to gambling will probably steal money to try to feed their addiction.

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I don't think that the crime activity increased by the gambling it is just like the people involving in gambling maybe related to the crimes but most of the time only normal man just earn money hardly and get lost their money by gambling because of their addiction.But there are some illegal casino run by the criminals where the gambling is prohibited causing the crime activities.

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Quote from: Fatanut on September 24, 2018, 01:50:55 AM

Quote from: BerneirBTC on September 24, 2018, 01:24:18 AM

Quote from: milewilda on September 17, 2018, 04:28:44 PM

Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

We cant really oppose on such thing since we do know into most people who do play on a casino do really have that money which those drug dealers and prostitutes do really want to stay on that place since they do know the potential on getting on what they want because of financial capability.This is not actually a surprising thing and as said this would only depend on the individual if he would like to involve himself into those illegal doings but if you do just get to that place for pure entertainment and no other than that then you wont really make yourself attached to it. Criminal effect will always vary on the numbers who decide to set in.

Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.

That makes no sense at all, for the criminals to gather in one place. The casinos would have been busted already. I think known criminals hangout elsewhere. Those that you are describing are those that aren't wanted persons. They have possibly done crimes in the past but never got caught.

I really wouldn't say that such things root from gambling. Gambling roots from something else which is greed. Everything's rooted from greed. Everyone wants everything. The ones who don't want to do something illegal will give gambling a shot. It's why everyone's so crazy about the lottery. Everyone's hoping that one day their lucky day will come.

It's a messed up world. Everyone's consumed by greed. The new luxury these days is being genuinely content and happy with little things.

Many gamblers that still use to go to regular casinos are still criminals, because they can do every illegal activity form which they can get some money. These people are gambling addicted and when they have no money they will even kill innocent people to rob them. Online gamblers are not criminals because they have no social activities related to their gambling.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on September 19, 2018, 05:46:13 AM

Gone are the days where gambling is only associated with criminal activities and the mentality is what a lot of people have carried from that time past till this moment. This view is actually not limited to any particular region its one of the most universal myopic view.

I want to believe that mentality based on how gambling has been perceived right from the onset is actually the main reason why a lot of people still link criminal activities with gambling related activities. Now, that there are regulations in some casinos, and they obviously will not want their license taken away from them, or the owner being in a mess with the government for illegal activities, I am sure a lot of criminal activities have been curtailed in the gambling world.

Quote from: BerneirBTC on September 24, 2018, 01:24:18 AM

I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.

I guess anyone from this gambling community will agree with you as no one could predict what a frustrated gambler will do. Also, ending up in severe frustration in gambling is a most common event, we do see both in online and physical casino. An addicted gambler may turn as a criminal at any time as their urge to continue gambling may enforce them to do anything.

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Quote from: BerneirBTC on September 24, 2018, 01:24:18 AM

Quote from: milewilda on September 17, 2018, 04:28:44 PM

Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

We cant really oppose on such thing since we do know into most people who do play on a casino do really have that money which those drug dealers and prostitutes do really want to stay on that place since they do know the potential on getting on what they want because of financial capability.This is not actually a surprising thing and as said this would only depend on the individual if he would like to involve himself into those illegal doings but if you do just get to that place for pure entertainment and no other than that then you wont really make yourself attached to it. Criminal effect will always vary on the numbers who decide to set in.

Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.

That makes no sense at all, for the criminals to gather in one place. The casinos would have been busted already. I think known criminals hangout elsewhere. Those that you are describing are those that aren't wanted persons. They have possibly done crimes in the past but never got caught.

I really wouldn't say that such things root from gambling. Gambling roots from something else which is greed. Everything's rooted from greed. Everyone wants everything. The ones who don't want to do something illegal will give gambling a shot. It's why everyone's so crazy about the lottery. Everyone's hoping that one day their lucky day will come.

It's a messed up world. Everyone's consumed by greed. The new luxury these days is being genuinely content and happy with little things.

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Quote from: milewilda on September 17, 2018, 04:28:44 PM

Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

We cant really oppose on such thing since we do know into most people who do play on a casino do really have that money which those drug dealers and prostitutes do really want to stay on that place since they do know the potential on getting on what they want because of financial capability.This is not actually a surprising thing and as said this would only depend on the individual if he would like to involve himself into those illegal doings but if you do just get to that place for pure entertainment and no other than that then you wont really make yourself attached to it. Criminal effect will always vary on the numbers who decide to set in.

Casinos are mostly used by criminals. That’s why casino is considered indecent place. Most of the Gamblers are criminals too and they do any illegal thing for money. Drug dealing, killing, kidnapping for money, gambling and much more. I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.

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Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

For me, I believe that gambling have positive as well as negative sides on a person. Of course we are talking here about crime effect of gambling. So gambling may affect crime by means of the attitude of the person who are playing. For example, If the player eargerness to earn lead him to a greedy attitude and makes him act negatively. Also if a person who are losing cannot control his temper against to other players makes them to a fight. If a person doesn't have any discipline, crime may affect.

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There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.

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Quote from: coynedterm on September 22, 2018, 01:25:15 PM

this is truth that Bitcoin yours is going on in some bad well but it is not a truth that it is fully going and for stupid use

Really, like what the fuck does this sentence mean? Is this even in English? Looks like it but it has no sense, no cohesion, no nothing. A bunch of words glued together in a random way does not convey meaning and does not look like a legitimate post. Put some effort into it.

If you think that crime and gambling are connected go to las vegas and check if people are fighting in the streets for chips. If you make a casino in an area with a high crime rate it will only increase it. If you do it in a good neighbourhood nothing will change.

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Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

this is truth that Bitcoin yours is going on in some bad well but it is not a truth that it is fully going and for stupid use because main reason behind this cryptocurrency use is there making money Not for illegal works.
Here I can say that with the investment in the cryptocurrency we can make profit/loss and here we think about ourself that we are right at our place that we are making money by the investment in perfect way , where in actual no any type of scam involve .
But here we need to keep in our mind that not everyone is simple and honest to make earnings , few people get into illegal activities to make earnings like high profile money laundering , at porn websites ( in actual not a illegal work but still it is better for us to hide our details ) .
Here most of the things looking simple in our views but the government authorities have lots of responsibility to make everything clear and transparent so that nothing goes illegal/bad that can give impact in the economy of the particular country or the world .
That why such types of the activities are going much against the government rules and leading into lots of negative news about cryptocurrency use .

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Quote from: adzino on September 21, 2018, 01:59:02 PM

Depends on what kind of "crime" you are talking about. Crime itself is a very broad topic. But, it is true gambling and crime is somewhat related specially with the people who are addicted to gambling. They might do anything to get money to gamble. They might end up mixing with the wrong people and engage in criminal activities. But I guess this is true for just few percentage of people. Better not generalize everyone.

We can't look at it like this. If a gambler loses all his money and then goes on a killing spree to make money, it's not the fault of the casino or gambling. There's something fundamentally wrong with that person. If he wasn't a gambler and lost his money some other way he would still kill to get the money back because deep inside he's a killer and that's where the problem lies. A normal person will lose money gambling and get a job to make it back. A psychopath will turn to crime and violence.

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If you mean stuff like finding a crack at the website or the seed of provably fair and stealing from the casino directly than I do agree that it has a side effect like that however not all gamblers are hackers, some are just there to gamble, its the hackers who gamble that are creating these sort of criminal efforts to make money from easy ways.

If however you mean stuff like gamblers having debt to casinos and having hard time paying it back and going to life of crime to make payments than I do not think that is gambling related, that is just a crooked human who have been waiting for the right reasons to commit a crime.

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Quote from: jvdp on September 17, 2018, 02:59:40 PM

Quote from: Fuhre on September 16, 2018, 02:36:09 PM

A very good casino will make all of its customers not criminals and disturb comfort, it is not right if someone who mentions that a casino is a criminal place, maybe a fool who can provoke riots or spread negative viruses between players, defeat can provoke them to do anything to get money. Cheesy

If these kind negative impact is there on investing with gambling and play casino then avoid it and stay away. If you need to make money choose the price and pick some coins like traders.
It will be retain and reboom the profit in your wallet with the comparison on USD.
Soon this gambling way of investment should be regulated more for sure.

Casinos are in some societies are assumes bad because all that done in casinos are illegal for some governments especially in third world countries. Gambling, drinking, dancing in some communities are bad things and are not allowed. In my country there is no casino because it is not a place for gentles. I can say that casino itself is a bad place because it provides you the gambling opportunity.

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