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Quote from: btc78 on February 07, 2019, 02:39:24 PM

You must be right on this mate as i believe Illegal Drugs,Prostitution and even kidnapping is happening inside casino,theres alot of cases in asia when mostly chinese nationals are abducting each other just to claim money from the victims family

But ofcourse we cannot take this from this institution sinc gambling is also illegal i some other part of the world.

Though i am also thinking that government officials are part of this illegal activities becaue this involves lot of money

Underworld casinos are illegal so if people going for that casino also need to be bad ass or you will get eaten by others,but if a casino is legit and approval from governments then it is not possible to have such things and if you found any you can call the security.

Illegal places do always exist. If theres legal ones then there would be illegal too so I'm not surprised that these kind of places is lurking somewhere which its somehow
expected that all illegal doings is already tied up.I agree that if you do let yourself come to that place then better be prepared on what would you encountered and would see with your very own eyes.

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Quote from: btc78 on February 07, 2019, 02:39:24 PM

You must be right on this mate as i believe Illegal Drugs,Prostitution and even kidnapping is happening inside casino,theres alot of cases in asia when mostly chinese nationals are abducting each other just to claim money from the victims family

But ofcourse we cannot take this from this institution sinc gambling is also illegal i some other part of the world.

Though i am also thinking that government officials are part of this illegal activities becaue this involves lot of money

Underworld casinos are illegal so if people going for that casino also need to be bad ass or you will get eaten by others,but if a casino is legit and approval from governments then it is not possible to have such things and if you found any you can call the security.

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Quote from: Ucy on February 07, 2019, 11:39:35 AM

Don't know about drug dealers but Prostitutes are normally attracted to entertainment/relaxation spots. So it is not really about gambling.
It also depends on the owners of gambling centers and country's laws ...If they don't want Prostitutes there, they definitely won't be allowed.

Yes it depends on the gambling place. as well as yourself when you want to avoid crime. gambling is an entertainment so we should feel rilex and freedom. gambling is not the trigger for crime, because it all depends on each person. believe that when we consider gambling to be an entertainment we will feel such extraordinary comfort. do not put pressure on us because we will only exacerbate the situation.

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You must be right on this mate as i believe Illegal Drugs,Prostitution and even kidnapping is happening inside casino,theres alot of cases in asia when mostly chinese nationals are abducting each other just to claim money from the victims family

But ofcourse we cannot take this from this institution sinc gambling is also illegal i some other part of the world.

Though i am also thinking that government officials are part of this illegal activities becaue this involves lot of money

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Quote from: onrise on November 11, 2018, 01:21:52 PM

Those who are addicted chances of they turning to criminal increases because in addiction every time you can only think is gambling and to gamble you require money. You cannot win every time from gambling and thus results in the losses and to get more money people start doing crime.

This is 100% truth, it's like drug addiction precisely or almost any addiction. The fact that they think they can prey on casinos customers is because of that and also because they take some sort of have fun without limits mindset which often leads people around there to use their products or services(Drugs, prostitutes).

Are criminals wrong? They definitely know what they are a doing. Even if it's not the casinos fault if they are not linked with them it certainly is a consequence of having one nearby.

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Quote from: Ucy on February 07, 2019, 11:39:35 AM

Don't know about drug dealers but Prostitutes are normally attracted to entertainment/relaxation spots. So it is not really about gambling.
It also depends on the owners of gambling centers and country's laws ...If they don't want Prostitutes there, they definitely won't be allowed.

There are bunch of people who come and go at the casinos and you probably don't know each one of them.
Most people who enter casinos are riches and famous people while some of them are from many different cities.
It is also the best place to deal with something that we don't know and beyond our limits.

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Don't know about drug dealers but Prostitutes are normally attracted to entertainment/relaxation spots. So it is not really about gambling.
It also depends on the owners of gambling centers and country's laws ...If they don't want Prostitutes there, they definitely won't be allowed.

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Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

Casinos mostly associated with crimes in which the common of it was drugs money to be circulated in the casino. I don't know how it could possibly be done but it was only based on what I have understood. When it comes to online casino ot online gambling I don't see any crime related activities, though there might be just like scams but only limited to unregistered sites.

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Quote from: justdimin on November 15, 2018, 07:30:43 AM

I do not really think it is the gambling directly that makes people go to a life of crime.

I think as you can see from a lot of Hollywood movies as well the trouble is not that someone who loses money in gambling goes and steals some money to repay, it is the people who he gambles with that makes it happen. There are not so good people who help people gamble, there are underground casinos and sportsbooks that are illegally run and the people who own those places have a lot of hired gun that will get the money from you one way or another.

If you get a loan from a bank and you do not pay it back, bank posses your things and sells it of an auction. If you gamble in an underground casino and lose, you will have to pay the debt or they will break your arm or leg or something. So it kinda depends on where you gamble not if you gamble.

When they are out of funds in gambling they are tempted to do the crimes as you said but it is not because of gambling it just happened because they need to repay the debts to the banks so we can call the banks also causing crimes among the people?

Not right ! so the fault is from the individual who is doing these kind of things.

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I do not really think it is the gambling directly that makes people go to a life of crime.

I think as you can see from a lot of Hollywood movies as well the trouble is not that someone who loses money in gambling goes and steals some money to repay, it is the people who he gambles with that makes it happen. There are not so good people who help people gamble, there are underground casinos and sportsbooks that are illegally run and the people who own those places have a lot of hired gun that will get the money from you one way or another.

If you get a loan from a bank and you do not pay it back, bank posses your things and sells it of an auction. If you gamble in an underground casino and lose, you will have to pay the debt or they will break your arm or leg or something. So it kinda depends on where you gamble not if you gamble.

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Quote from: onrise on November 14, 2018, 12:34:58 PM

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

This statement made me laugh hard. It sounds similar to when someone associate money laundering to cryptocurrencies only! As if money laundering never existed before cryptocurrencies! It is just a social thinking process and nothing else! Criminals will do whatever they want to, wither in vicinity of a casino or elsewhere. There is not even one casino in my country, does that lower down the crime rate or prostitution rate? NO! Gambling is just a business! Children go to amusement part to entertain themselves, adults go to casino to entertain themselves! As simple as that!

This social thinking about gambling is bad due to several factors like religion. However, if you look at the facts that how gambling had turn around the economy of a country, I will encourage you to please read the below threads,

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 1 - USA]

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 2 - Macau]

This dude is only just focusing out on the negative side of Crypto gambling sites without even thinking the positive ones that it do contribute on ones economy.
Money laundering and prostitution does exist ever since as long theres money it would always be tied up with it.

It is true that it help the economy as well. But as a human being one should have control on them self so that they do not get addicted to any such thing where people have become homeless while gambling. Obviously it is their own mistake but many countries have banned the gambling because of the reason that people may just ruin them self or just trying avoid if any money laundering might happen.

Right.If gambling has its own negative aspects,i'm sure it has also its positive aspects too.Gambling gives higher chances to people to win huge amount in an instant and if this amount will be used at a good purpose at home,i'm sure it can even increase a family's economy.But on the contrary,gambling may also cause harm to the lives of the people if the people themselves became a slave to gambling.Eventually addiction will take place and that will push the people to do such things that are already illegal just to satisy their own wants.

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Quote from: onrise on November 14, 2018, 12:34:58 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on November 14, 2018, 08:20:21 AM

Quote from: avikz on November 14, 2018, 04:26:58 AM

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

This statement made me laugh hard. It sounds similar to when someone associate money laundering to cryptocurrencies only! As if money laundering never existed before cryptocurrencies! It is just a social thinking process and nothing else! Criminals will do whatever they want to, wither in vicinity of a casino or elsewhere. There is not even one casino in my country, does that lower down the crime rate or prostitution rate? NO! Gambling is just a business! Children go to amusement part to entertain themselves, adults go to casino to entertain themselves! As simple as that!

This social thinking about gambling is bad due to several factors like religion. However, if you look at the facts that how gambling had turn around the economy of a country, I will encourage you to please read the below threads,

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 1 - USA]

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 2 - Macau]

This dude is only just focusing out on the negative side of Crypto gambling sites without even thinking the positive ones that it do contribute on ones economy.
Money laundering and prostitution does exist ever since as long theres money it would always be tied up with it.

It is true that it help the economy as well. But as a human being one should have control on them self so that they do not get addicted to any such thing where people have become homeless while gambling. Obviously it is their own mistake but many countries have banned the gambling because of the reason that people may just ruin them self or just trying avoid if any money laundering might happen.

Each country do have its significant views towards gambling either they are solely protective with their citizens or just minding on how gambling businesses
will benefit their entire community without minding possible effects or any other things attached to it.

Gambling addiction is on players mistake gambling is just for entertainment and not for money making.

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Quote from: Oilacris on November 14, 2018, 08:20:21 AM

Quote from: avikz on November 14, 2018, 04:26:58 AM

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

This statement made me laugh hard. It sounds similar to when someone associate money laundering to cryptocurrencies only! As if money laundering never existed before cryptocurrencies! It is just a social thinking process and nothing else! Criminals will do whatever they want to, wither in vicinity of a casino or elsewhere. There is not even one casino in my country, does that lower down the crime rate or prostitution rate? NO! Gambling is just a business! Children go to amusement part to entertain themselves, adults go to casino to entertain themselves! As simple as that!

This social thinking about gambling is bad due to several factors like religion. However, if you look at the facts that how gambling had turn around the economy of a country, I will encourage you to please read the below threads,

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 1 - USA]

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 2 - Macau]

This dude is only just focusing out on the negative side of Crypto gambling sites without even thinking the positive ones that it do contribute on ones economy.
Money laundering and prostitution does exist ever since as long theres money it would always be tied up with it.

It is true that it help the economy as well. But as a human being one should have control on them self so that they do not get addicted to any such thing where people have become homeless while gambling. Obviously it is their own mistake but many countries have banned the gambling because of the reason that people may just ruin them self or just trying avoid if any money laundering might happen.

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Quote from: avikz on November 14, 2018, 04:26:58 AM

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

This statement made me laugh hard. It sounds similar to when someone associate money laundering to cryptocurrencies only! As if money laundering never existed before cryptocurrencies! It is just a social thinking process and nothing else! Criminals will do whatever they want to, wither in vicinity of a casino or elsewhere. There is not even one casino in my country, does that lower down the crime rate or prostitution rate? NO! Gambling is just a business! Children go to amusement part to entertain themselves, adults go to casino to entertain themselves! As simple as that!

This social thinking about gambling is bad due to several factors like religion. However, if you look at the facts that how gambling had turn around the economy of a country, I will encourage you to please read the below threads,

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 1 - USA]

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 2 - Macau]

This dude is only just focusing out on the negative side of Crypto gambling sites without even thinking the positive ones that it do contribute on ones economy.
Money laundering and prostitution does exist ever since as long theres money it would always be tied up with it.

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

This statement made me laugh hard. It sounds similar to when someone associate money laundering to cryptocurrencies only! As if money laundering never existed before cryptocurrencies! It is just a social thinking process and nothing else! Criminals will do whatever they want to, wither in vicinity of a casino or elsewhere. There is not even one casino in my country, does that lower down the crime rate or prostitution rate? NO! Gambling is just a business! Children go to amusement part to entertain themselves, adults go to casino to entertain themselves! As simple as that!

This social thinking about gambling is bad due to several factors like religion. However, if you look at the facts that how gambling had turn around the economy of a country, I will encourage you to please read the below threads,

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 1 - USA]

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 2 - Macau]

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Quote from: Patatas on September 14, 2018, 10:37:21 AM

That's not true. What kind of prostitutes and drugs would you expect around a loner's house who gambles with bitcoins? The big hotel-casinos is a different thing as they have to create that ambience for the big rollers. They're often associated with high lifestyles like cocaine, models and bg cars. It has nothing to do with gambling really.

Most people that gamble do it occasionally and do not put their lifestyle at risk by gambling, so it is very clear to me that such people are not going to commit any kind of crimes because of gambling, the problem gets more complicated when we are talking about a person that is addicted, and as we know such a person is going to do everything they can to afford their addiction, in that case I think it is possible to say that gambling may have a harmful effect on those people and society in general.

However as a person that strongly believes in self determination, I really do not like to blame external factors when it comes to taking responsibility for your actions, so if those people are committing crimes then they are the ones responsible for that and not gambling.

I agree. Gambling is just a business like any other business around. If an enterprise is associated with crime it's because of the human factor, not because of the enterprise itself. There are musicians transporting cocaine in violin cases, chemistry teachers manufacturing illegal drugs, doctors engaging in black market organ trading etc. And, on the other hand, there are poker players like Daniel Negreanu, Phil Ivey, Erik Seidel and Antonio Esfandiari who are not associated with any criminal activity, but they are gamblers in every sense of the word.

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Quote from: emberbekas on October 15, 2018, 11:44:17 PM

Quote from: supermine on October 15, 2018, 11:59:48 AM

Quote from: xIIImaL on October 11, 2018, 04:06:01 PM

Gamblers may be suspicious but actual frauds means you. Red to trap the site owner only. They were introducing which is not legal in your country so you must be careful before you invested on any gambling sites.

Criminals in gambling field? I don't vote for it for sure.

Maximum people invested on gambling must clear the way they are moving for earning purposes.

It is true that people come to gambling site for the purpose of money making but we need money to bet on the gambling sites which may tempt the people to do crimes to get that money and even when they are addicted they can do anything to gamble but it is very rare case thoug.

Crime is the side effect of gambling even though not every gamblers will commit crime to fulfill their gambling habits. For those who already addicted to gambling and have no more money to satisfy his addiction, they are susceptible to do crime.

I admit that every gambler is not criminal but as gambling is not assumes positive therefore people stitch evil things with gambling and it is a fact that gambler especially in my community doesn’t have any respect and all the people keep distance from a gambler. Many gamblers become criminals too when they are gambling addicted and that is the reason that crime is assumed as part of gambling.

Those who are addicted chances of they turning to criminal increases because in addiction every time you can only think is gambling and to gamble you require money. You cannot win every time from gambling and thus results in the losses and to get more money people start doing crime.

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Quote from: nl247 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:13 AM

I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

Quote

Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

Quote

The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

Do i find successful in gambling.? Definitely not! I cant find successful in gambling . gambling gives you sick . without money you can't gambling and gambling can broke everything in yourlife because you life is gambling.

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Quote from: emberbekas on October 15, 2018, 11:44:17 PM

Quote from: supermine on October 15, 2018, 11:59:48 AM

Quote from: xIIImaL on October 11, 2018, 04:06:01 PM

Gamblers may be suspicious but actual frauds means you. Red to trap the site owner only. They were introducing which is not legal in your country so you must be careful before you invested on any gambling sites.

Criminals in gambling field? I don't vote for it for sure.

Maximum people invested on gambling must clear the way they are moving for earning purposes.

It is true that people come to gambling site for the purpose of money making but we need money to bet on the gambling sites which may tempt the people to do crimes to get that money and even when they are addicted they can do anything to gamble but it is very rare case thoug.

Crime is the side effect of gambling even though not every gamblers will commit crime to fulfill their gambling habits. For those who already addicted to gambling and have no more money to satisfy his addiction, they are susceptible to do crime.

I admit that every gambler is not criminal but as gambling is not assumes positive therefore people stitch evil things with gambling and it is a fact that gambler especially in my community doesn’t have any respect and all the people keep distance from a gambler. Many gamblers become criminals too when they are gambling addicted and that is the reason that crime is assumed as part of gambling.

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Quote from: supermine on October 15, 2018, 11:59:48 AM

Quote from: xIIImaL on October 11, 2018, 04:06:01 PM

Gamblers may be suspicious but actual frauds means you. Red to trap the site owner only. They were introducing which is not legal in your country so you must be careful before you invested on any gambling sites.

Criminals in gambling field? I don't vote for it for sure.

Maximum people invested on gambling must clear the way they are moving for earning purposes.

It is true that people come to gambling site for the purpose of money making but we need money to bet on the gambling sites which may tempt the people to do crimes to get that money and even when they are addicted they can do anything to gamble but it is very rare case thoug.

Gradually gambling leads to crimes. In my country gambling is not legal and I myself do not believe in online gambling because there are many scammers and fraud as you mentioned. Anyway for gambling online or traditional you need money and when you have no money for gambling and face money problems you will do anything to get some money for gambling.

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