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October 02, 2018, 11:34:17 AM
#95
I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
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October 02, 2018, 10:01:50 AM
#94
For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.
And where do you think a gambler's life lead? It's definitely leading to poverty since money is involved. Druggies only have to buy a dollar worth of drug and they are good to go. Gamblers, on the other hand, have you really seen a gambler lose one dollar in a casino and then move on? Drugs are far more cheaper than gambling. Once a gambler has lost everything due to gambling, and I'm talking about to the point where he had to sell his properties and belongings, he's going to be homeless and start doing bad things just to survive. At first it will be just as simple as lying, then manipulation, then comes the selling of the small things such as jewelries, and so on. You get the picture.

Just so you know, it's not the drugs that makes people want to do crime. It's the addiction itself. They want to feed the addiction and so they commit crime. I mean, it would be so hard to steal when you're stoned. You can't even get off the couch. Grin

But if a gambler was playing he wouldn't commit a crime in the process either. I agree with you that it's the addiction not drugs or gambling by itself what makes people to commit crimes, but those kinds of addictions are very different. You can be distracted by something interesting and forget about gambling even being addicted to it, while this can't happen with drug addiction because you feel physical pain during withdrawals which can't be ignored.

Gambling has been historically intertwined with criminal activity but the connection has becoming weaker with the implementation of online gambling.
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October 02, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
#93

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;
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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.
For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

There are legal casinos but most most are illegals. They are abusing this kind of thing since casinos can surely earn big money plus there can be hidden transactions that serves as additional big time income.
On the other, I am also seeing another crime led by casinos. People are killing one another for money. The tendency is, powerful people influence or control small people that has less money for their own good.
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October 02, 2018, 08:04:15 AM
#92
For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

So do you agree that it increases or not? Because on one side you say it doesn't then you say it does Huh
I think the whole thing is related dude. when you become a gambling addict you will desperately need money to return to gambling even though you have run out of money. this will be like drug addiction right? and when you bankrupt you will be poor and increase crime?
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October 02, 2018, 07:04:04 AM
#91
I don't think that the crime activity increased by the gambling it is just like the people involving in gambling maybe related to the crimes but most of the time only normal man just earn money hardly and get lost their money by gambling because of their addiction.But there are some illegal casino run by the criminals where the gambling is prohibited causing the crime activities.
I think that most of the crimes are increasing due to gambling because a regular and addicted gambler can do every illegal activity to get some money for gambling. When they lose all their money in casino, they try to loot or rob people to get money for more gambling. They are the worst people of the world, because they have no serious job and no care for family.
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October 02, 2018, 07:03:39 AM
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Mother of all crimes? Then how would you explain the other crimes that were done by non-gamblers? I think you're exaggerating things. You can be a non-gambler but still have dark thoughts and commit crime ultimately. And you can be a gambler but still be a good person. Gambling has nothing to do with crime. It's the addiction that makes you act up. You're too addicted to gambling that you start committing crime just to feed your addiction.

I think it's only in extreme cases that this actually happens. There's still parts of a gambler that's remained sane and so he'll be able to save himself from bankruptcy. It's only in extreme cases when a gambler has to do illegal things. For the professional criminal, idk if such a thing exists (gambler turned professional criminal). Because professional criminal would mean something like a hit man that gets paid to do a crime. That's quite intense and would require knowledge on how to kill a man without getting caught. I don't think something like that can be learned in gambling.
I agree with you on that. It’s not just the way gamblers feel in it, it is also the part where other people are capable of doing the same thing. I know someone who has been a gambling addict but is still a good person. He knows what the Rights and wrongs are whether he has the money or not, he is capable of controlling himself (from crimes). He wouldn't hurt anyone to have money, but when he has money, it’s on.

In my thoughts, people who commit crime and gamble makes everything work in the evil ways, making the underground full of money. They tend to have debts and to live on the edge. I think no one gets like that quickly if he has something to lose, like family.
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October 02, 2018, 07:00:41 AM
#89
I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.
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October 02, 2018, 05:45:07 AM
#88
Gone are the days where gambling is only associated with criminal activities and the mentality is what a lot of people have carried from that time past till this moment. This view is actually not limited to any particular region its one of the most universal myopic view.
I want to believe that mentality based on how gambling has been perceived right from the onset is actually the main reason why a lot of people still link criminal activities with gambling related activities. Now, that there are regulations in some casinos, and they obviously will not want their license taken away from them, or the owner being in a mess with the government for illegal activities, I am sure a lot of criminal activities have been curtailed in the gambling world.

I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.
I guess anyone from this gambling community will agree with you as no one could predict what a frustrated gambler will do. Also, ending up in severe frustration in gambling is a most common event, we do see both in online and physical casino. An addicted gambler may turn as a criminal at any time as their urge to continue gambling may enforce them to do anything.
Gambling is a bad thing no matter online or regular and a bad thing has always bad consequences. Many people say that gambling is the mother of all crimes, because ordinary people who care for their families will never gambler, because it is hard to lose your money in gambling and back to your home with empty pocket.
There are two types of gamblers, addictors and time passers. Those who just gamble to have some fun with friends and enjoy the drinking and dancing party will never be criminals because they have no interest in gambling, but those who are gambling addictors will do anything for gambling. Gambling is their business, their job and the source of making money.
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October 02, 2018, 03:05:32 AM
#87
For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

So do you agree that it increases or not? Because on one side you say it doesn't then you say it does Huh
He said the crime rates were increase because of drugs and Poverty then it may fall under gambling too but literally less when compared to the above two.But as he said the poverty causing the people to do anything to make money that is why they become criminals in the eyes of governments but some of them maybe considered as criminals too when they are doing much right things.
No you are wrong. In my opinion gambling is the mother of all crimes. When a gambler loses money in gambling, definitely he will become angry and will anger to get back his money and when he has no more money he will do illegal activities to get some money for gambling. This is a fact and I have seen many people doing this. Gradually they become professional criminals.

Mother of all crimes? Then how would you explain the other crimes that were done by non-gamblers? I think you're exaggerating things. You can be a non-gambler but still have dark thoughts and commit crime ultimately. And you can be a gambler but still be a good person. Gambling has nothing to do with crime. It's the addiction that makes you act up. You're too addicted to gambling that you start committing crime just to feed your addiction.

I think it's only in extreme cases that this actually happens. There's still parts of a gambler that's remained sane and so he'll be able to save himself from bankruptcy. It's only in extreme cases when a gambler has to do illegal things. For the professional criminal, idk if such a thing exists (gambler turned professional criminal). Because professional criminal would mean something like a hit man that gets paid to do a crime. That's quite intense and would require knowledge on how to kill a man without getting caught. I don't think something like that can be learned in gambling.
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October 01, 2018, 06:50:41 AM
#86
For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

So do you agree that it increases or not? Because on one side you say it doesn't then you say it does Huh
He said the crime rates were increase because of drugs and Poverty then it may fall under gambling too but literally less when compared to the above two.But as he said the poverty causing the people to do anything to make money that is why they become criminals in the eyes of governments but some of them maybe considered as criminals too when they are doing much right things.
No you are wrong. In my opinion gambling is the mother of all crimes. When a gambler loses money in gambling, definitely he will become angry and will anger to get back his money and when he has no more money he will do illegal activities to get some money for gambling. This is a fact and I have seen many people doing this. Gradually they become professional criminals.
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September 29, 2018, 03:27:56 AM
#85
That's not true. What kind of prostitutes and drugs would you expect around a loner's house who gambles with bitcoins? The big hotel-casinos is a different thing as they have to create that ambience for the big rollers. They're often associated with high lifestyles like cocaine, models and bg cars. It has nothing to do with gambling really.
The casino just want to create the the social setting that so that people would be willing to come there. It has nothing to do with the crime. 

I agree with you, only people that make the crime and I think it's not related to the casino. Gambler makes the crime because they need money to continue playing in the gambling so they can steal other people money and come back to the casino. Or they can rob the house and take the money and then they can play the game again. But still, we don't know what the reason behind the crime is.
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September 28, 2018, 04:06:03 PM
#84
That's not true. What kind of prostitutes and drugs would you expect around a loner's house who gambles with bitcoins? The big hotel-casinos is a different thing as they have to create that ambience for the big rollers. They're often associated with high lifestyles like cocaine, models and bg cars. It has nothing to do with gambling really.
The casino just want to create the the social setting that so that people would be willing to come there. It has nothing to do with the crime. 
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September 28, 2018, 06:16:11 AM
#83
Gone are the days where gambling is only associated with criminal activities and the mentality is what a lot of people have carried from that time past till this moment. This view is actually not limited to any particular region its one of the most universal myopic view.
I want to believe that mentality based on how gambling has been perceived right from the onset is actually the main reason why a lot of people still link criminal activities with gambling related activities. Now, that there are regulations in some casinos, and they obviously will not want their license taken away from them, or the owner being in a mess with the government for illegal activities, I am sure a lot of criminal activities have been curtailed in the gambling world.

I can say that gambling is the mother of all these crimes because when you get frustrated you will do such bad things.
I guess anyone from this gambling community will agree with you as no one could predict what a frustrated gambler will do. Also, ending up in severe frustration in gambling is a most common event, we do see both in online and physical casino. An addicted gambler may turn as a criminal at any time as their urge to continue gambling may enforce them to do anything.
Gambling is a bad thing no matter online or regular and a bad thing has always bad consequences. Many people say that gambling is the mother of all crimes, because ordinary people who care for their families will never gambler, because it is hard to lose your money in gambling and back to your home with empty pocket.
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September 28, 2018, 06:02:18 AM
#82
For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

So do you agree that it increases or not? Because on one side you say it doesn't then you say it does Huh
He said the crime rates were increase because of drugs and Poverty then it may fall under gambling too but literally less when compared to the above two.But as he said the poverty causing the people to do anything to make money that is why they become criminals in the eyes of governments but some of them maybe considered as criminals too when they are doing much right things.
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September 28, 2018, 04:32:17 AM
#81
I don't think that the crime activity increased by the gambling it is just like the people involving in gambling maybe related to the crimes but most of the time only normal man just earn money hardly and get lost their money by gambling because of their addiction.But there are some illegal casino run by the criminals where the gambling is prohibited causing the crime activities.
People involved in gambling are not generally related to criminal activities and even though we might say some immoral stuff may be going on once in a while, as you will definitely see sometimes, prostitutes maybe trying to hang around but in such cases, we all know it is there business and business owners tend to flock to places where they can have potential customers Grin ...
Nonetheless, regulation of casinos have really changed a lot of things over the years and even though there may still be some immoral activities, but for criminal activities, I would not say it is a thing anymore.
I think it's just speeches of excitement where you swear and just be excited. Not necessarily true, but I'm not sure what you could say if it's immoral or something but knowing people, probably they have done that. I think the prostitutes have their own targets in mind, especially the ones with who has a lot of money. They can be potential customers for them. For the criminal activities, we can never know if there is really something going on unless they have been caught.
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September 28, 2018, 04:26:07 AM
#80
I don't think that the crime activity increased by the gambling it is just like the people involving in gambling maybe related to the crimes but most of the time only normal man just earn money hardly and get lost their money by gambling because of their addiction.But there are some illegal casino run by the criminals where the gambling is prohibited causing the crime activities.
People involved in gambling are not generally related to criminal activities and even though we might say some immoral stuff may be going on once in a while, as you will definitely see sometimes, prostitutes maybe trying to hang around but in such cases, we all know it is there business and business owners tend to flock to places where they can have potential customers Grin ...
Nonetheless, regulation of casinos have really changed a lot of things over the years and even though there may still be some immoral activities, but for criminal activities, I would not say it is a thing anymore.
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September 27, 2018, 03:12:24 PM
#79
For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.

So do you agree that it increases or not? Because on one side you say it doesn't then you say it does Huh
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September 27, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
#78
From what I know Casinos and other vices such as bars and clubs are needed to have a certain distance between them in certain establishments like schools, churches, and colleges which they are required by law to follow. So in other words most of the vices and entertainment establishments always go in a one spot where all of them can operate legally, this entertainment zones also attract unwanted people who what they are doing are illegal as because these is where the money flows and people like them most certainly are customers of this kinds of places. I don't think it is necessarily the casinos' fault but they all attract different kinds of people whether they are good or bad.
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September 27, 2018, 01:44:01 PM
#77
There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.
I think its influence is not only from the external as you say but also from your own internal, because I could see how gambling
addiction will be the same as drug addiction, in the news someone stole money in a store because they want to back in gamble

If people have ost their saving or borrowed money then the trouble can starts as they now do not have any money to live their life or replay the amount taken. And by now they would be addicted to gambling so they require more money to play as well and crime starts from here.


Borrowing money to gamble is stupidest thing addicted gamblers ever do. They hope that, they could win big and pay back loans but, more often it never happens. In online casinos it leads to scamming other players while in physical casinos, it will lead to even more dangerous situations like threatening, blackmailing and other crimes.

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September 27, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
#76
There have been so many news stories about casino winners who were followed out of the casino and robbed while making their way home. Of course, we're talking about casino winners who decided to pocket cash instead of a check when they cashed out. Not a very wise decision. So, yes, walking out of a casino with a wallet or purse full of cash will always attract unwanted attention from the criminal element.
I think its influence is not only from the external as you say but also from your own internal, because I could see how gambling
addiction will be the same as drug addiction, in the news someone stole money in a store because they want to back in gamble

If people have ost their saving or borrowed money then the trouble can starts as they now do not have any money to live their life or replay the amount taken. And by now they would be addicted to gambling so they require more money to play as well and crime starts from here.
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