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legendary
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February 04, 2015, 10:43:04 PM
So, 8000 Crimean Tatars out of 250000 decided to move to Ukraine. No on was forcing them, it's their choice. The remaining 2.1 million people in Crimea are happy to have finally reunited with Russia.

There are tens of thousands of Ukrainian citizens who are living as refugees in Crimea right now. Some of them recently fled the forced mobilization and draft announced by Poroshenko.
sr. member
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February 04, 2015, 09:56:41 PM
http://dearputin.com/

An apology from the west.
newbie
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February 03, 2015, 08:28:11 AM
Crimea is Russia-Always was Russia- Always will be Russia-Period!
legendary
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February 03, 2015, 06:53:00 AM
Construction of a key highway across Crimea will be started this year.
http://quto.ru/journal/events/56335/
full member
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I'm nothing without GOD
January 26, 2015, 07:11:21 PM
This is a classic reason why we need Bitcoin without any foreign government regulation.
Imagine if the US controlled Bitcoin, these poor people in Crimea would have been cut-off to
serve the USA's geopolitical ideal. Maybe if the US and EU sanctions Russian from the swift banking system
perhaps they could use Bitcoin?

There is a rising bitcoin market in Russia.
newbie
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January 26, 2015, 01:32:14 PM
This is a classic reason why we need Bitcoin without any foreign government regulation.
Imagine if the US controlled Bitcoin, these poor people in Crimea would have been cut-off to
serve the USA's geopolitical ideal. Maybe if the US and EU sanctions Russian from the swift banking system
perhaps they could use Bitcoin?
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
A short article about Bitcoin serving as payment method for Crimeans, illegally isolated by VISA and Mastercard from international payments:
http://bitcoininfo.ru/news/bitkoin-stal-palochkoy-vyruchalochkoy-dlya-kryma
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 04:00:23 PM

H: Where were they pulling this bullshit from? The only human rights being abused on the defending territories of Novorossia, is the right for life, as the life of people there is taken in artillery shelling by Kiev-Nazis. And finally making Crimean Tatar language one of the official languages of Crime is a human rights violation, yes?

You do simple always copy/past... ? Use your brain ... and try to get some contact with Tatar living there ... and you will see that this is all but not the paradise your claims !

You just do stupid russian propaganda ... But you know this ... not all people are paid to make propagand :-)

Lived in Crimea for some time a few years back, and talked to some Tatars. Also spent many summers of my childhood and youth there. I know what the sentiments were there first-hand. Pull another one, it has bells on.

For the Western audience, who don't want to go with any propaganda: go to Crimea (book in advance if you want to go there during summer) and see for yourself. Once there, make sure to visit the (almost) all-Tatar city of Bahchesaraj, which is quite beautiful and off the beaten tourist track.

Sure LoL

So perhaps you can explain this since Crimea has been invaded by Martian Troop ! ?

* They have also broadly prohibited the Tatars from celebrating their holidays and remembering the victims of political repressions.
* They are harassed by secret services and “self-defense forces” that search homes, offices and mosques.
* Tatar university students are being forced to apply for Russian citizenship and passports with the threat of not receiving their diplomas if they don’t.
* Certain Islamic books, including school educational books, previously considered legal under the Ukrainian law, have been banned. Other senior leaders in the community, such as Refat Chubarov, have been expelled. Today, up to 8,000 Crimean Tatars have already fled to Ukraine.


I wait your reply about these informations ... of course you will explain there is no political repression in Russia ... and it can not be ... if life was so happy since Russia invaded Crimea ... why 8000 left the place ... ? Sorry but if one place is happyness and nice country ... why i would to left it ?

First of all, no one "invaded" Crimea. Crimea seceded from Ukraine, where it ended up to to illegal and unconstitutional actions by Khrushov. Also the resistance to being forcefully transferred to Ukraine was there even before the transfer happened - the head of Crimean Communist Party lost his position trying to bring the views of the population to the Party tops.

Now, to your questions:
- Which specific Tatar holidays are prohibited? If you mean Muslim holidays, they are allowed (you can look up pictures of Moscow with Muslims celebrating). Prohibited to remember the victims of repressions? Kidding me, right? You haven't read Russian newspapers, where there are articles about victims of Gzhugashvili's political repressions, Tatars including.
- More bullshit from the radicals, that Western MSM gobbles up. Poor radical Muslims in Paris were harassed by police after the shootings... Poor Muslims with ISIS connection in Germany are under scrutiny by police.
- Of course. Though you can apply as a foreign citizen as well. The paperwork is different.
- Which "certain Islamic books"? Stepan Bandera's UPA and certain other extremist organisations are also allowed under Ukrainian law...

So, 8000 Crimean Tatars out of 250000 decided to move to Ukraine. No on was forcing them, it's their choice. The remaining 2.1 million people in Crimea are happy to have finally reunited with Russia.
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 09:34:48 AM

H: Where were they pulling this bullshit from? The only human rights being abused on the defending territories of Novorossia, is the right for life, as the life of people there is taken in artillery shelling by Kiev-Nazis. And finally making Crimean Tatar language one of the official languages of Crime is a human rights violation, yes?

You do simple always copy/past... ? Use your brain ... and try to get some contact with Tatar living there ... and you will see that this is all but not the paradise your claims !

You just do stupid russian propaganda ... But you know this ... not all people are paid to make propagand :-)

Lived in Crimea for some time a few years back, and talked to some Tatars. Also spent many summers of my childhood and youth there. I know what the sentiments were there first-hand. Pull another one, it has bells on.

For the Western audience, who don't want to go with any propaganda: go to Crimea (book in advance if you want to go there during summer) and see for yourself. Once there, make sure to visit the (almost) all-Tatar city of Bahchesaraj, which is quite beautiful and off the beaten tourist track.

Sure LoL

So perhaps you can explain this since Crimea has been invaded by Martian Troop ! ?

* They have also broadly prohibited the Tatars from celebrating their holidays and remembering the victims of political repressions.
* They are harassed by secret services and “self-defense forces” that search homes, offices and mosques.
* Tatar university students are being forced to apply for Russian citizenship and passports with the threat of not receiving their diplomas if they don’t.
* Certain Islamic books, including school educational books, previously considered legal under the Ukrainian law, have been banned. Other senior leaders in the community, such as Refat Chubarov, have been expelled. Today, up to 8,000 Crimean Tatars have already fled to Ukraine.


I wait your reply about these informations ... of course you will explain there is no political repression in Russia ... and it can not be ... if life was so happy since Russia invaded Crimea ... why 8000 left the place ... ? Sorry but if one place is happyness and nice country ... why i would to left it ?
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 05:11:50 AM

H: Where were they pulling this bullshit from? The only human rights being abused on the defending territories of Novorossia, is the right for life, as the life of people there is taken in artillery shelling by Kiev-Nazis. And finally making Crimean Tatar language one of the official languages of Crime is a human rights violation, yes?

You do simple always copy/past... ? Use your brain ... and try to get some contact with Tatar living there ... and you will see that this is all but not the paradise your claims !

You just do stupid russian propaganda ... But you know this ... not all people are paid to make propagand :-)

Lived in Crimea for some time a few years back, and talked to some Tatars. Also spent many summers of my childhood and youth there. I know what the sentiments were there first-hand. Pull another one, it has bells on.

There is an extremist minority among the Tatars, who are very vocal. What's interesting, the Western media, according to the Hypocrisy 101 are touting them as matures for freedom of Tatars, whereas their ideological brethren, who carried out the shootings in Paris are stamped as terrorists. The situation reminds of Chechenia: the Sudi-funded NATO-supplied Chechen terrorists during the 90s were touted as heroes in the West, and many are still living well in London. Now, on the other hand, the Chechens who want to live peacefully alongside Russians are protraited in the negative light, their leader ending up on the Western sanctions list.

About the paid for propaganda: I would advise you to stop projecting the modus operandi of NATO onto Russia. There is a Russian saying "Vsjo tajnoe stanovitsja javnym" - "All that is hidden eventually becomes apparent". Paying for an army of trolls to spout lies may give a feeling of superiority short term, but long term, it's a waste of money. Russia is better of remaining on the defensive, with a few people who still remember the meaning of the word "consciousness" acting as ambassadors, bridges, translators in their spare time.

For the Western audience, who don't want to go with any kind propaganda: go to Crimea (book in advance if you want to go there during summer) and see for yourself. Once there, make sure to visit the (almost) all-Tatar city of Bahchisaraj, which is quite beautiful and off the beaten tourist track.
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 04:22:39 AM

H: Where were they pulling this bullshit from? The only human rights being abused on the defending territories of Novorossia, is the right for life, as the life of people there is taken in artillery shelling by Kiev-Nazis. And finally making Crimean Tatar language one of the official languages of Crime is a human rights violation, yes?

You do simple always copy/past... ? Use your brain ... and try to get some contact with Tatar living there ... and you will see that this is all but not the paradise your claims !

You just do stupid russian propaganda ... But you know this ... not all people are paid to make propagand :-)
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 04:20:08 AM
Saw a report today that for the first time over the last 23 years all Crimean sanatoriums and spas are fully-booked. 2014 saw 4 million people having vacation in Crimea.  Grin

Saw a report today that for the first ime over long time ... many people lost their job in crimea ... 2014/2015 saw the biggest fraud in Crimea ... Grin
legendary
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January 24, 2015, 05:11:16 AM
The long fight by the Crimean museums to get the Crimean Scythian gold back has begun in earnest:

University of Amsterdam replies to Crimean museums Scythian gold claim
http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/772789

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THE HAGUE, January 22 /TASS/. The University of Amsterdam has replied to a lawsuit filed by four Crimean museums demanding a return of Scythian gold exhibits from the Netherlands to Crimea.

A district court in Amsterdam which is dealing with the Crimean museums’ lawsuit to the University of Amsterdam said that it now expected the museums to answer the letter sent by the University of Amsterdam, the contents of which, however, has not been made public, by February 1, a court representative told TASS on Thursday.

Future of Scythian gold exhibits from Crimea remains uncertain
http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/772789

That district court said also something about involving Ukraine, even though the contract was between the museums. Tauridia, for example is n the UNESCO list and not returning gold to it will de fact degrade its historical heritage value.

EDIT: Note that the items from the Kiev museum have already been returned to it. If the case is resolved against the Crimean museums, this will create mistrust, where a museum cannot be sure that the contract it signs when lending its items will be observed. As a result, there will be far fure exchange exhibitions. Alas, contracts seem to be of little importance in Europe as of late (see: Mistral case). Also, I am not that hopeful that the historical items will be returned to their owners (these items never left Crimea before this exhibition, which was the first of this kind for the Crimean museums), as Holland seems to be in bed with Ukraine, given their handling of MH-17 shoot-down by Ukraine, discarding all the evidence, even though the Dutch citizens were among the most numerous victims.

The case of Crimean gold is sensitive to me - I've been to those museums, seen those items in their intended setting. It will be a great loss if they are not returned home. The most probable fate in that case: Kiev Nazis will sell them off to finance the genocidal civil war, and the priceless items will disperse among many unnamed shadowy collectors, never to be seen again...
legendary
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January 19, 2015, 06:04:40 PM
Crimea is mentioned time and again in this anti-Russian war-mongering EU parliament resolution
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2015-0011+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=EN

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F.  whereas the illegal annexation of the Crimean peninsula was the first case of a forcible incorporation of a part of one country into another in Europe since World War II, and is in violation of international law, including the UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act and the 1994 Budapest Agreement;

H.  whereas there are widespread abuses of human rights both in occupied eastern Ukraine and in Crimea, especially affecting Crimean Tatars and including intimidation and a new wave of disappearances;

F: Have they forgotten about Yugoslavia under NATO bombs? Have the forgotten about UN Charter's "peoples right for self-determination"?

H: Where were they pulling this bullshit from? The only human rights being abused on the defending territories of Novorossia, is the right for life, as the life of people there is taken in artillery shelling by Kiev-Nazis. And finally making Crimean Tatar language one of the official languages of Crime is a human rights violation, yes?
legendary
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January 19, 2015, 12:45:47 PM
Video presentation of the bridge that will be built over Kerch strait to Crimea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fppGkUsPV2U
legendary
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January 03, 2015, 05:21:32 PM
Saw a report today that for the first time over the last 23 years all Crimean sanatoriums and spas are fully-booked. 2014 saw 4 million people having vacation in Crimea.  Grin
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December 28, 2014, 05:12:39 AM
Russian secret trial to convict opponents of Crimean annexation



More details have emerged of the secrecy behind the separate and closed trial of Gennady Afanasyev whose testimony is probably the only ‘evidence’ in the ‘Crimean terrorist plot’ charges against four opponents of Russia’s annexation of the Crimea, including renowned film director Oleg Sentsov and left-wing activist Oleksandr Kolchenko.  Information about his conviction and sentencing to 7 years imprisonment and a further 1.5 years restriction of liberty coincided with the court hearings into Kolchenko and Sentsov’s detention.  Both hearings ended with the detention being extended until April.



As reported, it was the investigator at the hearing on Kolchenko’s detention who first revealed that Afanasyev’s case was being heard in separate proceedings, and that he had been sentenced to 7 years.  The verdict had been passed four days earlier by the Moscow City Court in a trial held behind closed doors.  The very fact that his case was already at ‘trial’ stage had not been revealed, meaning that the lawyers representing Sentsov and Kolchenko had no opportunity to cross examine the person whose testimony (together with that of Oleksy Chirny) forms the only basis for the charges against their clients. 

Kolchenko and Sentsov’s lawyers believe that Afanasyev made a deal with the investigators, giving false testimony against the others in exchange for the minimum sentence envisaged for ‘terrorism’.  This corresponds to the account given by Sentsov who, together with Kolchenko, has repeatedly asserted that he was subjected to torture and pressure while in detention in Simferopol.  The 38-year-old film director and solo parent says that the investigators tried to get him to make false assertions about EuroMaidan which he actively supported and the new Kyiv administration.  He was told that if he did not, he would face even more serious charges.  He refused and is now charged with being the ‘mastermind’ of a Right Sector ‘plot’.   

Questionable secrecy over dubious charges

There was secrecy over the arrests and initial detention of all four men, with access even to lawyers being initially denied.  The first public statement from Russia’s FSB came on May 30, after the men had been taken to Moscow.  The alleged terrorist acts in that statement do not correspond with those which Afanasyev has been convicted of.  This, and the fact that there is no hard evidence, only confessions, to back the claim that Sentsov ‘masterminded’ the alleged ‘plot’, make it especially suspicious that the other defendants’ lawyers were not informed of the proceedings and allowed to attend.

It is unclear whether there was an actual trial as such, and who was present at the pronouncement of sentence on Dec 17.  The human rights website Mediazona first reported the result on Dec 25, but had almost certainly only been present at the hearing on Kolchenko’s detention.  Their report repeated the FSB May 30 statement claiming that Afanasyev was part of a group led by Oleg Sentsov which in April 2014, acting on the instructions of the Ukrainian Right Sector, created a ‘diversionary-terrorist group’ in Simferopol.  According to this version, Afanasyev, Chirny and Kolchenko, as well as “other unidentified individuals” had, on Sentsov’s instructions, carried out arson attacks on buildings of the Russian Community of the Crimea on April 14 and the local branch of the United Russia party on April 18.  In both cases it was earlier reported that a Molotov cocktail had been thrown, with the Russian Community having a door slightly burned, and United Russia – a window damaged.

The prosecution also asserts that, again following Sentsov’s instructions, Chirny and Afanasyev obtained homemade explosive devices which were supposed to be used for two terrorist acts on May 9 – blowing up the monument to Lenin at the railway square in Simferopol and the Eternal Flame memorial. It claims that the explosions did not happen since both men were arrested first.  While Afanasyev does appear to have been detained before Sentsov who was arrested late on May 10,   the first mention of Oleksy Chirny came considerably later in May.  Chirny is the least known of any of the four men, but significantly the only one whose social network page indicated a moderate degree of support for the far-right national ‘Right Sector’.

The first mention of ‘Right Sector’ came in the FSB statement on May 30.  That version claimed that the main aim of what they termed a ‘Right Sector diversionary terrorist group’ was to carry out ‘diversionary-terrorist’ acts in Simferopol; Yalta and Sevastopol, and in the last of these to destroy a number of buildings, railway bridges and power lines.

The FSB claim to have carried out searches and found: “explosive devices, firearms; ammunition; canisters with inflammatory substances; construction helmets (similar ones were used during the disturbances on ‘Maidan’; respirators; gas masks; aerosol paint cans; nationalist symbols, etc.”

Once again, if these ‘were found’, it must have been at the homes of the two men who have given ‘confessions’, since nothing of the kind was found at either Sentsov or Kolchenko’s homes.  All the more reason for the latter’s lawyers to have been present at Afanasyev’s trial and allowed to ask questions.



Oleg Sentsov, Oleksandr Kolchenko - FSB repression

Miscast or secret players

All four defendants in this case were known to have opposed Russia’s annexation of the Crimea.  Aside from mention of Right Sector on Chirny’s social network page, there was nothing to link any of the men with that nationalist party.

It is perhaps worth noting that five days before the FSB statement, the Right Sector presidential candidate received an abysmally low result (0.9%) in the May 25 presidential elections.  This was so out of sync with the Kremlin’s demonization of Right Sector as supposed main player in a ‘Kyiv junta’ that the pro-Kremlin Pyervy Kanal resorted to a fake ‘Right Sector victory’.

Civic activists in the Crimea knew Afanasyev as a photographer (who had first studied law at the Tavriya National University) and opponent of Russia’s invasion and annexation.  They treat claims of any Right Sector involvement with scepticism.

Allegations of Sentsov and Kolchenko’s links with Right Sector have been denied by both men.  The miscasting seems obvious in both cases.  Oleg Sentsov is raising two young children, one with autism, by himself making the suggestion that the FSB could have found the alleged items in his home preposterous.  There is no material or witness evidence to a link with Right Sector either.  Oleksandr Kolchenko, who recently turned 25 in detention, is a left-wing anarchist who has been in conflict with nationalists in the past, and is seriously miscast as a Right Sector ‘terrorist’. 

Stalin-style denunciations

The charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years, and Kolchenko’s lawyer Svetlana Sidorkina believes that this means that Afanasyev did indeed receive a minimum sentence.  She says that his sentence is likely to be used as grounds for seeking the conviction of the others, and probably much stiffer sentences for the two men who maintain their innocence.

She is adamant that the prosecution has acted in breach of Russian legislation in the trial of Afanasyev.  “Our defendants did not have the chance to put questions to Afanasyev.  The testimony which he has given directly concerns both Kolchenko and Sentsov, and we have effectively been denied fully-fledged defence of any clients. The Afanasyev case was considered without studying the document and evidence with this placing in doubt the rulings passed”, she insists.

Missing defendant

The above-mentioned FSB statement coincided with a Pyervy Kanal news report repeating the prosecution line and showing ‘confessions’ by both Afanasyev and Chirny.  Given the fact that only Afanasyev has been sentenced, it is worth noting a worrying report from the Open Dialogue Foundation which has been closely following the case.  In August Open Dialogue activists reported that Chirny was in a pre-suicidal state which they believed to have been brought about by drugs he was ‘treated’ with in the Serbsky Institute.  That institute earned notoriety during the 1970s and later for its use of punitive psychiatry.

Petro Okhotin from the NGO explained that the FSB investigators were doing their utmost to separate Sentsov and Kolchenko and Afanasyev and Chirny.  They had experienced enormous difficulty in even tracking down Chirny.  When their delegation arrived at the Serbsky Institute, they were told that he had been moved to the Lefortovo prison.  Then a day later they learned that he was in the Butyrka pre-trial detention centre in a severe pre-suicidal state. Okhotin warned that Chirny might be facing torture and / or being fed tranquillizers to get him to give testimony against the other defendants.

Since Afanasyev was sentenced alone, it is possible that Chirny has since retracted his testimony.   He had earlier been reported to have written a letter asking for the Ukrainian consul to visit him.  Chirny is the only one of the four who had managed to formally declare his rejection of Russian citizenship before being arrested, and the Russian authorities have not attempted, as they have with the others, to claim that the others had ‘automatically’ become Russian nationals.  Both Kolchenko and Sentsov have vehemently objected to this and are adamant that they remain Ukrainian citizens.

Oleg Sentsov and Oleksandr Kolchenko are facing 20-year sentences in a case where the words ‘if convicted’ seem especially inappropriate.  Both men have been declared political prisoners by the authoritative Memorial Human Rights Centre, and demands have already been issued by Amnesty International for their return to the Crimea.  The lack of any evidence aside from questionable ‘confessions’ and the secrecy behind Afanasyev’s trial make international attention and pressure on the Russian authorities imperative.

дивиcь тaкoж:
• Opponent of Russian occupation of Crimea gets 7 years
• Russia continues to force its citizenship on Crimean political prisoners
• Crimean political prisoner forced to defend Ukrainian citizenship in court
• Add your Greeting to Oleksandr Kolchenko, Ukrainian Citizen and Kremlin Prisoner
• G20 Putin Pack: Russia’s Crimean Political Prisoners
• Ukrainian Citizens and Russia’s Political Prisoners
• Crimean ‘terrorist plot’ defendant upholds right to Ukrainian citizenship
• Crimean political prisoners registered as “Russian terrorists”
• Russian investigators deny Sentsov was beaten
• Russia’s Crimean Political Prisoners to remain in detention

http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1419727403
legendary
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December 27, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
Crimea fell under complete transport and energy blockade from Kiev. All trains and buses were stopped at the border today, as well as personal cars (these are being let through in small quantities now). Kiev also stopped most electricity deliveries to the peninsula.

http://itar-tass.com/en/world/769609

Visa and MasterCard are blockading Crimea financially, by severing contact with banks operating on Crimea. Russian government promises to find alternatives to Visa and MasterCard before the start of the next tourist season.

http://rt.com/business/217867-visa-russia-banks-crimea/

True democracy must be suffered and fought for, as non-democratic tyranny of West tries to quell the free will of the people of Crimea.

As a reader commented in the following article:
http://rt.com/politics/217551-russia-emigrants-letter-history/
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The west must not be paying much attention to Russia's reaction. Rather than panic, Russia is calmly deconstructing western influence in the Russian economy. Moving away from the USD towards Chinese Yuen, and ultimately a BRICS reserve currency. Creating an alternative to SWIFT just on the threat of sanctions here. And creating an alternative to Visa/Mastercard on the back of Crimean sanctions.

BRICS nations are interested in all these alternatives, and this is going to strip away western power. But, this is a good thing for the rest of the world, and the wests own fault for exposing these economic hamstrings.

Also important to note that the west has shifted the aim of punitive sanctions from Russia to Crimea directly. The west is attempting to punish Crimea for exercising its right to self-determination. That these targeted sanctions are happening shows quite clearly that the west believes Crimea is responsible for Crimea joining Russia. All these sanctions do is cement the already quite strong anti-US anti-western sentiment in Crimea. This is a lesson the Crimeans will remember for generations.
legendary
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December 24, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
Ukraine unilaterally turned off today all electricity to Crimea, even though it was paid for.

http://ria.ru/world/20141224/1040030732.html
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 06:31:07 PM
Russian Federal Council (Senate) prepares a legislation denouncing the act of transfer of Crimea from RSFSR to UkraineSSR as illegitimate and voluntaristic. As that transfer was breaking the then constitution of USSR and the legislation of RSFSR, it will be considered invalid.
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